WACO YMF
07-02-2011, 03:15 PM
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Chris,
The poeple who would know for sure is Waco Classic Aircraft http://www.wacoclassic.com/ . Contact them to find out for sure if the total area and shape was changed other than for the balance.
According to the info I have, it looks like when they changed the rudder in 1992 with Ser # F5C040 they also lengthened (by 6" - 1.2 " in 1/5th Scale) and widened (by 2.5 - .50" in 1/5th Scale) the fuslage and enlarged the front and rear wind shields.
So do your research and note the differences between any drawings you have and the subject aircraft, especially with WCA ser #s F5C040 and above.
The poeple who would know for sure is Waco Classic Aircraft http://www.wacoclassic.com/ . Contact them to find out for sure if the total area and shape was changed other than for the balance.
According to the info I have, it looks like when they changed the rudder in 1992 with Ser # F5C040 they also lengthened (by 6" - 1.2 " in 1/5th Scale) and widened (by 2.5 - .50" in 1/5th Scale) the fuslage and enlarged the front and rear wind shields.
So do your research and note the differences between any drawings you have and the subject aircraft, especially with WCA ser #s F5C040 and above.
07-02-2011, 03:43 PM
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Dan,
The 1/8" balsa stock should do just fine. I'd recommend going over to Orlando on North OBT and getting your wood there. Bill has a great selection of 1/8" stock, and your model should come in a little lighter. I would hesitate to recommend cutting all the lightening holes in everything with the 8th inch stuff. I'd still do it on the plywood parts.
Bill, Waco Brother #1
The 1/8" balsa stock should do just fine. I'd recommend going over to Orlando on North OBT and getting your wood there. Bill has a great selection of 1/8" stock, and your model should come in a little lighter. I would hesitate to recommend cutting all the lightening holes in everything with the 8th inch stuff. I'd still do it on the plywood parts.
Bill, Waco Brother #1
07-02-2011, 04:30 PM
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Heck, while you are over there get some 1/4 grain 1/16" and use that for your ribs, other than keeping the covering from touching top and bottom they really don't do anything else...
Evan, WB #12.
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07-02-2011, 04:40 PM
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ORIGINAL: Errol Levin
Hi Peter
Please advise as to how I can get the fiberglass part around the Piano wire wheel struts. I have tried every way possible. Should they be put on before the strut is mounted.
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ERROL #204
Hi Peter
Please advise as to how I can get the fiberglass part around the Piano wire wheel struts. I have tried every way possible. Should they be put on before the strut is mounted.
Regards
ERROL #204
regards tmac.
07-02-2011, 07:06 PM
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Bill,
Thanks I’ll make the trip and use 1/8 for the ribs. I had enough 5/32 and light ply to cut out most of the fuselage. (I’m having fun)
Robert
Have you started painting yet?
Thanks I’ll make the trip and use 1/8 for the ribs. I had enough 5/32 and light ply to cut out most of the fuselage. (I’m having fun)
Robert
Have you started painting yet?
07-03-2011, 01:00 AM
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Hi Tmac,
that's absolutely correct. That's the way how you ought to do the installation of the glass fiber cover. Thanks Tmac.
Peter brother #170
that's absolutely correct. That's the way how you ought to do the installation of the glass fiber cover. Thanks Tmac.
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07-03-2011, 04:02 AM
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Hi everyone
Just wanted to let you know I bought the GP Waco. If you had talked to me 20 years ago, I would not have even thought about owning a biplane. With this airplane I now own 5 of them. I'm primarily a warbird guy but am really starting to enjoy the relaxed flying of the bi-plane. I know the GP Waco is an ARF and not as prestigious as a kit built, but I would still like to be part of the brotherhood.
Paul AMA 80793
Just wanted to let you know I bought the GP Waco. If you had talked to me 20 years ago, I would not have even thought about owning a biplane. With this airplane I now own 5 of them. I'm primarily a warbird guy but am really starting to enjoy the relaxed flying of the bi-plane. I know the GP Waco is an ARF and not as prestigious as a kit built, but I would still like to be part of the brotherhood.
Paul AMA 80793
07-03-2011, 08:52 AM
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Hi Guys
Tmac45, when you first posted your post I had doubts, because it did not make sense to mould a part, and then cut off part of it and attach it to another part. I therefore apologise for my lack of faith in you tmac48, and I thank you for your most welcome input, and I thank you Peter.
Hi Guys
Tmac45, when you first posted your post I had doubts, because it did not make sense to mould a part, and then cut off part of it and attach it to another part. I therefore apologise for my lack of faith in you tmac48, and I thank you for your most welcome input, and I thank you Peter.
07-03-2011, 09:33 AM
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Welcome Paul, hope you enjoy the club.
Jim, when I start painting something other than this little stuff I'll post as I gothrough teachstage, primer- cream- red- and black, if that's OK.
07-03-2011, 10:23 AM
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Happy Fourth of July.
Below is the last paragraph of a letter John Adams wrote to Abigail 235 years ago on July 3rd. The http://www.masshist.org/adams/manuscripts_2.cfm## link will take you to the entire letter. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
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But the Day is past. The Second Day of July 1776, will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America.—
I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, by succeeding Generations, as the great anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the Day of Deliverance by solemn Acts of Devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade, with Shews, Games, Sports, Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this Continent to the other from this Time forward forever more.
You will think me transported with Enthusiasm but I am not.—I am well aware of the Toil and Blood and Treasure, that it will cost Us to maintain this Declaration, and support and defend these States.—Yet through all the Gloom I can see the Rays of ravishing Light and Glory. I can see that the End is more than worth all the Means. And that Posterity will tryumph in that Days Transaction, even altho We should rue it, which I trust in God We shall not.
Printed in Adams Family Correspondence, 2:29-33.
http://www.masshist.org/adams/manuscripts_2.cfm##
The Continental Congress resolved on 2 July 1776 "That these United Colonies are, and of right, ought to be, Free and Independent States." In this letter written a day later, John Adams reflected on the event and tried to sum up what it meant for Americans of his own time and in the future. On 4 July the corrected and approved text of the Declaration of Independence was printed for distribution. It is the latter date that Americans celebrate with "Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations."
Below is the last paragraph of a letter John Adams wrote to Abigail 235 years ago on July 3rd. The http://www.masshist.org/adams/manuscripts_2.cfm## link will take you to the entire letter. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
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But the Day is past. The Second Day of July 1776, will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America.—
I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, by succeeding Generations, as the great anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the Day of Deliverance by solemn Acts of Devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade, with Shews, Games, Sports, Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this Continent to the other from this Time forward forever more.
You will think me transported with Enthusiasm but I am not.—I am well aware of the Toil and Blood and Treasure, that it will cost Us to maintain this Declaration, and support and defend these States.—Yet through all the Gloom I can see the Rays of ravishing Light and Glory. I can see that the End is more than worth all the Means. And that Posterity will tryumph in that Days Transaction, even altho We should rue it, which I trust in God We shall not.
Printed in Adams Family Correspondence, 2:29-33.
http://www.masshist.org/adams/manuscripts_2.cfm##
The Continental Congress resolved on 2 July 1776 "That these United Colonies are, and of right, ought to be, Free and Independent States." In this letter written a day later, John Adams reflected on the event and tried to sum up what it meant for Americans of his own time and in the future. On 4 July the corrected and approved text of the Declaration of Independence was printed for distribution. It is the latter date that Americans celebrate with "Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations."
07-03-2011, 11:32 AM
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Hi Errol,
makes things easier to have only one mould and it simulates perfect the way the oleo does during loading and unloading. The three gliding path on each side of the part are the leading and gliding areas of the gear suspension. For that reason it makes sence to push the cut off part a little into the main part to simulate that.
Peter Brother #170
By the way welcome Paul to the brotherhood. To all US residents enjoy 4th of July and think about me as I have to go to work on our 4th July tomorrow.
makes things easier to have only one mould and it simulates perfect the way the oleo does during loading and unloading. The three gliding path on each side of the part are the leading and gliding areas of the gear suspension. For that reason it makes sence to push the cut off part a little into the main part to simulate that.
Peter Brother #170
By the way welcome Paul to the brotherhood. To all US residents enjoy 4th of July and think about me as I have to go to work on our 4th July tomorrow.
07-03-2011, 12:07 PM
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You are speaking of phenolic guiding tubes that's what I have a problem with. We always did provide glass fiber tubes as a guidence only the lates version has phenolic guiding tubes and yellow elox. aluminium tubes to fit in.
Peter brother # 170
You are speaking of phenolic guiding tubes that's what I have a problem with. We always did provide glass fiber tubes as a guidence only the lates version has phenolic guiding tubes and yellow elox. aluminium tubes to fit in.
Peter brother # 170
Understood about the tubes. My use of the term "phenolic" may not have been accurate. The fact is Ican't tell with certainty what material was used in the wing panels and center section for the tubes. It does look like fiberglass as Ican see some weave in the tube materialbut not sure.
Iwas able to find some aluminum tubing in metric sizes on the web and have ordered some in both 20mm &12mm O.D. sizes. Once those arrive Iwill try them out for fitment and if they don't work .....well not exctaly sure what we will do but we will figure something out.
Thanks again for your assistance!
Tom
07-03-2011, 01:58 PM
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Thank you to everyone
I am amazed at some of the work you all put into your planes. I stand in awe and feel very humbled by your craftsmanship. I'm very grateful for all the help and guidance everyone is willing to give.
I am amazed at some of the work you all put into your planes. I stand in awe and feel very humbled by your craftsmanship. I'm very grateful for all the help and guidance everyone is willing to give.
07-03-2011, 02:41 PM
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Welcome to the Brotherhood Paul keep us posted on your GP Waco.
I finished the wing spars. Having a nice table saw sure comes in handy. I picked up a piece of spruce from Lowe’s and had them cut in no time. I did have to go to the LHS and pick up a piece of 1/8 birch plywood for the spar braces running the plywood out three ribs past the center section makes them vary strong. Next I will cut the wing ribs.
I finished the wing spars. Having a nice table saw sure comes in handy. I picked up a piece of spruce from Lowe’s and had them cut in no time. I did have to go to the LHS and pick up a piece of 1/8 birch plywood for the spar braces running the plywood out three ribs past the center section makes them vary strong. Next I will cut the wing ribs.