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    RE: WACO YMF


    ORIGINAL: mrdhud

    Dave will we be see that big green Waco again this year?
    You Bet! I'll be leaving home on the 17th. Hope to be there on Wed. 24th.

    See you all there.

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    RE: WACO YMF



    HI guys,

    I'm thinking about ordering the 1/5 scale Pinked tape that Mick Reeves sells. It's the correct width for two inch tape with the correct number of pinked point per inch. Only problem I can possibly see it's is made from the Iron on solartex fabric he sells, and I would be appling it over a doped (three coats of Nitrate) Koveral surface. My question is this: will ironing this material over the doped fabric cause any problems? As for the rib stitches, I may use the wood glue (like doing rivits) over the ribs prior to adding the tape. Would the heat cause a problem with white glue?

    Another way to do the rib stitching would be to lace heavy thread over a piece of fabric ( at the propper spacing of course), and dope it down, and then cut it into strips the width of the ribs and dope it to the fabric prior to doing the pinked tape.

    Comments, warnings, etc., appreciated.

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    RE: WACO YMF

    Joe, You might think about, that ironing the Solor Tex over Kover all might shrink your kover all.?? I haven't done it just a thought.

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    RE: WACO YMF

    I have used solartex tapes over Koverall and it is not an issue. I get my tapes from Gary Siebert at Pink-it.net He offers them in many sizes.
    You will want to seal the edges of the tape down after you get them applied. I usually use Polycrylic for filling the weave of the fabric and I give it another coat after the tapes are applied.

    For Rib Stitching I get them from Scale Rib Stitch.
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    RE: WACO YMF


    ORIGINAL: mrdhud

    Bill,
    Glade to see your Waco back on the work bench. The cabanes look good. Monster planes is coming up soon will you & Janelle be coming down? Hope so.
    Any one else planning on attending monster planes this year? Dave will we be see that big green Waco again this year?
    Yep, We are coming down each day. We will have to drive home every night because Luk Luk can't open his own food (lol).

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    RE: WACO YMF

    Hi Guys

    Busy covering now with Solartex. What a pleasure! The best covering material I have used. Pink it and scale ribstitch also the best in the market.

    ERROL #204

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    RE: WACO YMF

    I'm having a tough time deciding what to work on. I'm torn between the Ryan ST-A and the Waco. Maybe a little here, and a little there.

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    RE: WACO YMF

    Hey Bill, you and I have the same dilemma! I too am torn between the Waco and a Ryan STA. I have the Pica 1/6 Waco kit, and have a Technopower radial to go in it (though it is currently pulled apart for repair). But I also just bought a 1/4 scale Ryan STA kit, and have an O.S. IL300 that might find a home up the front of it. I actually now have 4 Ryans. I have an old SIG Ryan that I am converting from STA to STM-S2 (all polished metal), a Great Planes Ryan ARF (currently with busted wing, and out of action), a spare SIG Ryan kit in box, and now the 1/4 scale kit. As you might be able to tell, I am a Ryan fan!!

    If you need any Ryan photos, I have a bunch that I took of the Temora Aviation Museum's Ryan STM-S2 here in Australia.

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    RE: WACO YMF

    ORIGINAL: jymster

    Hey Bill, you and I have the same dilemma! I too am torn between the Waco and a Ryan STA. I have the Pica 1/6 Waco kit, and have a Technopower radial to go in it (though it is currently pulled apart for repair). But I also just bought a 1/4 scale Ryan STA kit, and have an O.S. IL300 that might find a home up the front of it. I actually now have 4 Ryans. I have an old SIG Ryan that I am converting from STA to STM-S2 (all polished metal), a Great Planes Ryan ARF (currently with busted wing, and out of action), a spare SIG Ryan kit in box, and now the 1/4 scale kit. As you might be able to tell, I am a Ryan fan!!

    If you need any Ryan photos, I have a bunch that I took of the Temora Aviation Museum's Ryan STM-S2 here in Australia.

    James.
    I'll be doing mine in the Maxey Hester scheme. I'm using a ZDZ 40 rear intake rear exhaust that Dan Hudson was kind enough to let me have. Here is a pic of the model in progress. Its a Byron Original kit (now much modified).

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    Its easy, just glue all the pieces together, and sand off everything that doesnt look like an airplane.

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    RE: WACO YMF

    Looks good Bill. Yes I saw this on another thread on the Ryan. How scale is the Byron kit? Any obvious errors?
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    RE: WACO YMF


    ORIGINAL: jymster

    Looks good Bill. Yes I saw this on another thread on the Ryan. How scale is the Byron kit? Any obvious errors?
    I just wish they had used a build up wing. The outline is on the money, so yep, you can really scale it out if you wish. The landing gear is really a Rube Goldberg lash up as far as mounting the wheel pants go. There are about 8 or 9 pieces that have to be bolted together to make everything work. Once you get it set up, I see no problems. There aren't too many formers though, and I felt the need to do a little in the way of making the firewall stronger. They used a piece of 1/8 inch ply for the firewall, and I bumped it up to 7/16 aircraft ply. I mean, really, a flimsy firewall with a ST 2500 or even a Quadra hung on it..........Notnunname.

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    RE: WACO YMF

    Hi Bill, I've been flying a Byron ST for years with a St2500 glo (ugh) on the stock firewall and the disc and tube mount...no problems. Mitch WB100

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    ORIGINAL: nine o nine

    Hi Bill, I've been flying a Byron ST for years with a St2500 glo (ugh) on the stock firewall and the disc and tube mount...no problems. Mitch WB100
    There is just something about hanging a 40cc engine on that flimsy piece of ply that bothered me. Won't be using it.

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    RE: WACO YMF

    Got one of the leading edges sheeted with the 64th ply and got it faired in. Guess it will be okay.

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    RE: WACO YMF

    The more I work on these wings for the Ryan, the less I like them. Grrrrr. I really hate fixing what someone else designed. They would be just okay for flying, but to make them ding proof and more scale takes more time than it would to frame a set up.

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    RE: WACO YMF

    Bill,
    A local guy is building a 1/2 scale version. He showed me some pics during our Father's Day Fly-In at our club field. Nice looking plane. He also sells plans for a .60 size, 1/4 and 1/3 scale. Here is a link to his web site if interested. Alien-Aircraft

    I still plan on building a giant STA one of these days. My work is sending me to CAD classes next month. I want to do a full design in CAD including scale struts.
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    RE: WACO YMF

    Anthony, this one is a quarter scale version. The struts are about the only thing on the wing that Byron did right.

    By the way, did Ryan use landing light/s on the ST-A, and did they use any Navigation lights. I am having a problem finding any photographic evidence of either.

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    RE: WACO YMF

    The YPT-16 Army version at the Wright-Patt museum does not have any lights. If you are going to model a military version then I would not add lights.
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    RE: WACO YMF

    I have a copy of Profile Publications #158, The Ryan PT/ST series, and nothing in that publication shows any lights. I find no copywrite date, but it is quite old.

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    RE: WACO YMF

    I'm not sure if this is even the same plane, but Ithink it's close.......... No lights I can see.,
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    RE: WACO YMF

    Hi Guys

    Just to get back to the subject of Waco's, I've been busy today doing the tapes on my tail feathers. Have a look.

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    RE: WACO YMF


    ORIGINAL: rccrasher65

    Joe what is the thickness of the brass sheet, you used for your fittings, thanks George
    George,

    I'm sorry I took so long to answer this one. I just noticed it when it popped up when the page opened. I don't know how iI missed it when it first came up.

    The fittings in the aircraft structure, both the wings and fuselage, are from the K &SBrass and Ithink they were about .032". It may be overkill, but I was just being sure. The fittings on the ends of my N-Struts were made by wrapping a thinner piece of brass around a 1/8" hard brass tubing. I think thery were done with .016" brass and that assembly was soldered to the heavier piece that went into the end of the N-Strut. If that is confusing, let me know.

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    RE: WACO YMF

    Thanks Joe, just wanted the thickness of the brass sheet stock. I have your pictures from the earlier posts, pretty straight foreward, if I have any questiions I will be sure to ask, Thanks again for all your help. I haven't been on very much lately, but getting back to full build soon. I have two on the boards, My 1/5 WACO YMF, and a Brian Taylor Messerschmitt 109 F, keeping me pretty busy, bouncing back and forth. George
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    RE: WACO YMF

    "I'm not sure if this is even the same plane, but I think it's close.......... "

    It is close, it is a PT-22.

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    RE: WACO YMF

    So no lights it is. Now on to the Waco once more.

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