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Old 12-11-2012, 08:15 AM
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Joe,

If you have the proper shears (scissors) with the correct "pinked" spacing you can cut your own biased tapes from the covering fabric, just cut at 45° to the weave. The tough part is cutting the tape with parallel sides.

In the photo of the wing the tip tape starts at the transition from straight to curve (in this case at the marker light base) around to the trailing edge.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:28 AM
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John,

Idon't have any pinking shears. The tape I'm using actually has 25 pinks to the inch (1/5 scale). They may not even show up once I'm finished. I jut hope the Solar Tex tape has enough stretch and shrink to form to the curves. We'll see.

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Hi Joe, Don't try to fill the pinked edges. If you scaled down from the full scale you could never them. On my 1/3d I tried to leave the pinks showing as well as the rib stitching and the craftsmanship judge at TopGun remarked about the good surface detail.
BTW I used automotive basecoat clearcoat for a very shiny surface dirctly over the Solartex so the weave peeked through on close inspection. Mitch WB100
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Hi Mitch,

Thanks for the tips!Maybe I won't put so much dope on this baby after all. I'm guessing I will need at least three coats on the stitching, just to seal it good. The big difference is I'm using Koverall for my covering rather than the Solartex, so it does need filing where the Solartex needs very little if any.

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Yeah, you're right that the Koverall needs filling more than the Solartex. Don't try to get a shiny filled dope finish though. Mitch
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Hey Guys,

Over in the Don Smith Cessna T-50 thread, rhsmrt50 is building a1/5th scale Jacobs engine (dummy, resin cast) that has others beat hands down. Take a look starting about post 792 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10...32/key_/tm.htm and check it out. Pay attention to post 831.
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His dummy Jacobs is a work of art!

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Yes it is, the detail is simply fantastic, wonder if one would work in front of a 30 .cc Syssa
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I have to put 14 screws in the a wheel fairing cover for third scale Waco. Any ideas of a simple way to evenly space the holes around the perimeter of the part?

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Chuck, why don't you use a piece of string, or other flexible strand, and measure the circumference of the shape. Then divide this measurement into 14. Then place marks at the appropriate spacing on the string and wrap it back around the faring to transpose the marks onto the fairing.

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James,

Thanks for the suggestion. About ten minutes after posting the question, I ran a piece of masking tape around the perimeter and marked the spaces on that. Just what you suggested, but with tape.

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You could find a known start point and walk off the distance of each screw with a set of Dividers. No different then walking off Rivet pitch on a full scale sheet metal repair.

Just my 2 cents.....
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You could find a known start point and walk off the distance of each screw with a set of Dividers. No different then walking off Rivet pitch on a full scale sheet metal repair.

Just my 2 cents.....
Good idea, except that you need a way to find out what the distance between the screws is first. You could use the string/tape method, followed by the dividers.

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Old 12-13-2012, 12:09 PM
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Hello,

Some new photos ... These two small forms I need to do first.

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Looking good, Albert. I assume this will be available as a kit some day soon?

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Old 12-13-2012, 04:47 PM
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Well I finally ordered my parts from AMR to rebuild my Waco. After looking it over and talking it over with Dany from AMR it was deemed necessary to build a new fuse. Too much structural damage in critical strength areas to attemp a repair. I had Dany cut me new fuse parts and ship me a new cowling. I should have all the parts in hand around the Holidays. I hate building something twice but the Waco was just too nice to scrap out.
The rebuild will not take that long but the covering and detailing will be a stretch to get it all completed before spring.
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You could find a known start point and walk off the distance of each screw with a set of Dividers. No different then walking off Rivet pitch on a full scale sheet metal repair.

Just my 2 cents.....
Good idea, except that you need a way to find out what the distance between the screws is first. You could use the string/tape method, followed by the dividers.

James.
When I was still doing Sheet Metal repairer on Army Aircraft, all I needed was the starting point. You stated that you want 14 screws to hold the fairing, so find the point you want to start and walk the dividers 14 times. Adjust the distance to make it walk the pitch in or out until you have your 14 points and end up back at the point you started.
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When I was still doing Sheet Metal repairer on Army Aircraft, all I needed was the starting point. You stated that you want 14 screws to hold the fairing, so find the point you want to start and walk the dividers 14 times. Adjust the distance to make it walk the pitch in or out until you have your 14 points and end up back at the point you started.
Yes, will also work, but a lot of trial and error involved. Whatever works, I say.

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Old 12-14-2012, 05:48 PM
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Anthony,
Glad to see you getting the Waco repaired. Hopefully it will go easy & fast for ya. I know you painted your Waco with latex paint but did you clear coat it and if so what did you use. I have a plane covered with solortex that need to be sealed with some thing.
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Anthony,
Glad to see you getting the Waco repaired. Hopefully it will go easy & fast for ya. I know you painted your Waco with latex paint but did you clear coat it and if so what did you use. I have a plane covered with solortex that need to be sealed with some thing.

Dan, Don't forget about weight. Filling weave really put's on the pounds.

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I'm trying to come up with a way to seal Koverall that remains light. I'm thinking about using Minnwax Polycryl. It is water based, and once the water evaporates, it should be fairly light. Comments?

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Hi Bill, Polycrylic should do just fine on coverall. What paint will you use over it? Mitch
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How about.. dope? Nitrate specifically. It's a great sealer and helps with closing the weave. Probably the lightest there is.
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Bob, actually the polycrylic is lighter than enough coats of nitrate to seal the weave. Plus it's water based, and there is no stink. Keeps the War Department happy.

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