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Old 06-16-2015, 04:22 AM
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I can't believe that no one is posting everyone must be at their fields flying,
Old 06-16-2015, 04:29 AM
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Hey George was thinking the same thing. I've been busy also but as soon as I catch up I going to start flying the big Waco. Hows yours coming along try and post some pictures if you can.
Old 06-16-2015, 01:53 PM
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Dan, George, you are absolutely correct. Even windy old Nebraska has given up some real nice flying weather! Dan glad to hear that you did not let your big WACO go, I can not remember, was it a Barth or AMR?
Old 06-16-2015, 01:55 PM
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I have had the chance for a couple of sessions with the Waco and if it had floats would have joined us for a float fly last Saturday. Still flies just as nice as I remember. Once I have the fuel consumption issue figured out, (for some reason it burns nearly twice that of my other Saito 125a) will have the "Standard", the airchine that heads to the field every session, regardless of what else is packed alongside.

As for that, finally finished building the rack system for the minivan, using the Waco to determine the height I needed. No longer will I need to worry about how to pack the wings amongst all the support gear and other craft. Can take some pics later.

On the topic of floats, anyone have recommendations for the 1/5 Pica?
Old 06-16-2015, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Henley
Dan, George, you are absolutely correct. Even windy old Nebraska has given up some real nice flying weather! Dan glad to hear that you did not let your big WACO go, I can not remember, was it a Barth or AMR?
Jim it's the Barth and the biggest plane I have my wife thinks im crazy and maybe she's right Lol.
Here's a few pictures
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Old 06-16-2015, 06:57 PM
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Hi Dan,
I will try to get some pics up in a day or two.
Old 06-21-2015, 08:25 AM
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Hi Dan, Here's the pics of my Waco, both wings are done will get more pics up when my shop has more space available, The Corsair is taking up all my space
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Old 06-21-2015, 12:51 PM
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Looking good George cant remember have you picked out a color yet?
Old 06-21-2015, 01:00 PM
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Dan,
I'm not sure on color yet, will have to visit a Waco site for ideas
Old 06-21-2015, 04:27 PM
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Okay... Dumb question. Where is everyone taking the measurement for the lower wing incidence? I started measuring out near the aileron and started sanding the saddle with that measurement. Then I realized that the plans show the 0 deg and the center section of the wing.
DANG IT!!!!!! Any input?

John
Old 06-22-2015, 05:28 AM
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Unless you are near the wing tip and have washout the incidence should be the same across the whole wing.
Old 06-23-2015, 08:48 AM
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Hello all,
I have been working on being able to load & unload the big Waco myself. As you can see I have built a ramp that I can drop the trailer door on this allows me to be able to roll the plane in with out having to pick it up.
I'm looking for ideas on how to strap it down to the floor the floor is 3/4 plywood so I can screw what ever to the floor I come up with. Any thoughts will be appreciated.

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Old 06-23-2015, 09:40 AM
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I've seen these "chocks" advertised for some time on RCGroups - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2442718

I have no connection to the seller or the item, and I've never used them, so I don't really know anything about them other than what I've seen in the ad, but they look interesting. If nothing else, they might spark an idea.

Mike
Old 06-23-2015, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mikedj
I've seen these "chocks" advertised for some time on RCGroups - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2442718

I have no connection to the seller or the item, and I've never used them, so I don't really know anything about them other than what I've seen in the ad, but they look interesting. If nothing else, they might spark an idea.

Mike
Thanks Mike I'll check them out
Old 06-23-2015, 12:08 PM
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I finally got a chance to maiden my 1/3 Barth Waco YMF-5 last weekend at an event I organize. I replaced the old Brison 6.4 with a DA-150, and installed some 8411 servo's in the tail. I have them mounted to direct drive the elevator halves. This was built by a gentleman who only flew it once or twice, and then passed. It was bought at an estate sale, then re sold to me. I drove two thousand miles to pick it up, and have spent the last year making it flyable.

I set the firewall with 3 degrees of right thrust, and about 3/4 degree of down. After initial trimming, it could use a skootch more right thrust, but that is easily correctable with some rudder input on long up lines. Field assembly took just over an hour for myself and a friend. After a couple flights fittings and flying wire moorings began to loosen up. Some loctite seems to have helped.

I must say, it both flies like a heavy warbird, and a super cub at the same time! You definitely feel the weight of the airframe in the air, but it carries it's energy well for hammerheads and deadstick practice. I did loops, rolls, hammerheads, knife edge passes, inverted flight, barel rolls, and tried one snap at the top of a loop. It was a failure, and with a 20+ year old model I don't want to break it in the air! Or anywhere for that matter....

What are you guys doing for wingbags? I'm thinking about making a PVC and pool noodle wing rack, but would love an enclosed square briefcase style wingbag with at least 5 slots for the wings, N struts, and flying wires...
Here is what my bird looks like-
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Old 06-23-2015, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdhud
Thanks Mike I'll check them out
Dan my man, all you need is a couple cheap gate hinges and you can strap it in. Cool thing is, when the plane is out of the trailer the hinges lay flat so you don't trip over them. Like I have with my Pitts.
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Old 06-23-2015, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdhud
Hello all,
I have been working on being able to load & unload the big Waco myself. As you can see I have built a ramp that I can drop the trailer door on this allows me to be able to roll the plane in with out having to pick it up.
I'm looking for ideas on how to strap it down to the floor the floor is 3/4 plywood so I can screw what ever to the floor I come up with. Any thoughts will be appreciated.

I believe Acerc has used folding gate hinges screwed to the floor that lay flat and then fold up to secure the model to. He can obviously offer more detail. He has pictures over on his Pitts S1-S build.

Jaybird

Doh! he posted before I could hit send!!!
Old 06-23-2015, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaybird
I believe Acerc has used folding gate hinges screwed to the floor that lay flat and then fold up to secure the model to. He can obviously offer more detail. He has pictures over on his Pitts S1-S build.

Jaybird

Doh! he posted before I could hit send!!!
He has seen them in person being as he helps me remove the Pitts from the dolly.
Old 06-23-2015, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdhud
Hello all,
I have been working on being able to load & unload the big Waco myself. As you can see I have built a ramp that I can drop the trailer door on this allows me to be able to roll the plane in with out having to pick it up.
I'm looking for ideas on how to strap it down to the floor the floor is 3/4 plywood so I can screw what ever to the floor I come up with. Any thoughts will be appreciated.


I've seen the ones advertized, but with wheel pants I'm not sure how easy they would be to use, especially with a beast 1/3 Waco! Here's what I did on my last short hour long trip to the field. I used picture hanging loops and tarp bungee's from Home depot and strapped the plane, and tailwheel down to the floor. I then used sandbags to keep the plane from rolling fore and aft.
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Old 06-23-2015, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by acerc
He has seen them in person being as he helps me remove the Pitts from the dolly.
Well, apparently he's so mesmerized by your Pitts that he doesn't even see them!

Jaybird
Old 06-23-2015, 01:50 PM
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Thanks for the ideas guys. Roberts has a great set up wish I could transport mine in one piece.
Old 06-23-2015, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by codiddley
I finally got a chance to maiden my 1/3 Barth Waco YMF-5 last weekend at an event I organize. I replaced the old Brison 6.4 with a DA-150, and installed some 8411 servo's in the tail. I have them mounted to direct drive the elevator halves. This was built by a gentleman who only flew it once or twice, and then passed. It was bought at an estate sale, then re sold to me. I drove two thousand miles to pick it up, and have spent the last year making it flyable.

I set the firewall with 3 degrees of right thrust, and about 3/4 degree of down. After initial trimming, it could use a skootch more right thrust, but that is easily correctable with some rudder input on long up lines. Field assembly took just over an hour for myself and a friend. After a couple flights fittings and flying wire moorings began to loosen up. Some loctite seems to have helped.

I must say, it both flies like a heavy warbird, and a super cub at the same time! You definitely feel the weight of the airframe in the air, but it carries it's energy well for hammerheads and deadstick practice. I did loops, rolls, hammerheads, knife edge passes, inverted flight, barel rolls, and tried one snap at the top of a loop. It was a failure, and with a 20+ year old model I don't want to break it in the air! Or anywhere for that matter....

What are you guys doing for wingbags? I'm thinking about making a PVC and pool noodle wing rack, but would love an enclosed square briefcase style wingbag with at least 5 slots for the wings, N struts, and flying wires...
Here is what my bird looks like-
Congratulations on the maiden glad all went well. I to am looking for some affordable wing bags let me know if you find some.
Old 06-25-2015, 09:40 AM
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Dan, I picked up some packing quilts at the local big box and my wife sewed a set for the 1/5 Stinson and 1/3 Sig Spacewalker. They were considerably cheaper than the commercially available bags.
Old 06-29-2015, 04:43 AM
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WooHoo!! Just grabbed another 1/5 Pica kit.For $50!!

Partial, true, but from what I'm told it has the ribs, fuse formers, N-struts, plastic sheets, wires and LOTS of sticks, (it's definitely a Pica). Only thing confirmed missing is the bump cowl. Worst case it can be spares for #1, but intend to build in all the fixes and mods I found needed on that one and could not complete, (for example, different N-strut attach setup) and add float points.

I'm trying to set up a list of builds for retirement and this one should definitely keep be occupied for quite a while. Hopefully in the meantime I can locate a cowl and set of floats that will work. Anyone have recommendations? Largest I have so far are 36".
Old 06-29-2015, 05:23 AM
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Fiberglass Specialties has the cowl with bumps. Of course, it will cost you almost as much as your whole kit cost! Can't help you with the floats, though.

Nice score on the kit!

Mike

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