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Old 09-17-2010, 05:17 PM
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I am sure this question has been asked before; I searched but can't find it.
What is top speed of this truck in stock form on two 2s lipos?
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I think it is about 45mph
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i've heard it's about 42.
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Around 41-43 mph depending on 2s lipo specs. Higher C rating will give the truck a little bit more "kick"
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Around 41-43 mph depending on 2s lipo specs. Higher C rating will give the truck a little bit more ''kick''
So 2 3s lipos will increase the top speed by how much ?
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Around 41-43 mph depending on 2s lipo specs. Higher C rating will give the truck a little bit more ''kick''
So 2 3s lipos will increase the top speed by how much ?
That will put you at 50+mph easily but the stock tires are gonna balloon and eventually fail at that speed.
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Will taping the insides of a better set of tires help; if so which do you recommend ?
Old 09-17-2010, 08:40 PM
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2s. There is an INSANE amout of torque with 2s. It feels like it is going faster because you are like out of control the wholr time. Start with 2s and "graduate" to 3s.
Just my 2 cents
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Around 41-43 mph depending on 2s lipo specs. Higher C rating will give the truck a little bit more ''kick''
So 2 3s lipos will increase the top speed by how much ?

HPI says on 6s you should be able to top 60mph.
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Around 41-43 mph depending on 2s lipo specs. Higher C rating will give the truck a little bit more ''kick''
So 2 3s lipos will increase the top speed by how much ?

HPI says on 6s you should be able to top 60mph.
WITH their phatline street tires and 25T pinion but thats going to put alot of load on the motor, ESC and batteries especially. And if the lipos can't provide the current "poof" goes the MMM
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Will taping the insides of a better set of tires help; if so which do you recommend ?
Taping does help and gorilla tape is working really well on my tires. Strongest and stickiest tape i've ever found


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how much run time are you guys getting out of your Flux?
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Well if I don't break anything close to 40 mins. If I break something it is closer to 15 mins.... LOL
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Around 41-43 mph depending on 2s lipo specs. Higher C rating will give the truck a little bit more ''kick''
So 2 3s lipos will increase the top speed by how much ?

HPI says on 6s you should be able to top 60mph.
WITH their phatline street tires and 25T pinion but thats going to put alot of load on the motor, ESC and batteries especially. And if the lipos can't provide the current ''poof'' goes the MMM
Why would the batteries being strained affect the ESC?
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Why would the batteries being strained affect the ESC?

If I understand brushless motor theory correctly, its because the ESC is pulling the current from the lipo's and feeding it into the motor, that's what its job is, electric speed control. If the ESC is not getting enough amperage from the lipos during a high current demand, the ESC becomes less efficient, producing heat and in worst case, smokes and catches fire.


Huge thread on this

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...ighlight=zippy
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That makes...zero sense. The ESC is a controller. It doesn't pull current, the motor does. All the ESC does is throttle that current.
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That makes...zero sense. The ESC is a controller. It doesn't pull current, the motor does. All the ESC does is throttle that current.

Well then google and search are your friends, I don't know everything. All I know is that when the lipos arn't capable of outputing enough current using the MMM and 2200kv motor, the ESC goes bye bye


http://e-savage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4434

http://www.rctech.net/forum/monster-...thread-47.html

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_85...tm.htm#8937695

http://monster.traxxas.com/showthread.php?t=515229

http://rc-monster.org/forum/showthread.php?p=297766


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LMAO well that didn't last long!
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They aren't MY friends. I know this stuff. The reason that ESC caught fire is because the motor pulled current beyond what both the batteries or ESC could handle. THAT'S why it's on fire.
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They aren't MY friends. I know this stuff. The reason that ESC caught fire is because the motor pulled current beyond what both the batteries or ESC could handle. THAT'S why it's on fire.
What are the reasons for the motor pulling too much current; would just like to know so I don't do it to my esc.
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Most common culprit would be binding in the drivetrain.
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They aren't MY friends.

With your attitude, I'd be surprised if you had any friends actually
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iv heard it more that the battery can't produce the amps the esc needs or motor thats why it goes poof or just a bad esc, iv had only one esc catch on fire and it sucks but im still using the same batteries well one is a replacement cause i think the cause of my fire was a bad battery.
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They aren't MY friends.

With your attitude, I'd be surprised if you had any friends actually
You must be surprised often with assumptions like that.
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They aren't MY friends.

With your attitude, I'd be surprised if you had any friends actually
You must be surprised often with assumptions like that.
dont let freeze get to you. the reason he acts like that is because HE has no friends.


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