Electric (brushless) vs Nitro?
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I will say I've bought more replacement parts for my electrics though cause they go faster, and when you hit something(or land a jump bad) parts snap WAY easier
NO no no you can not list to much power as a fault! go drive a toyota prius off a cliff sir lol...And now that i think of it...When esc's go out it gets ugly because they'll usually take the motor with it . But i love brushless power its amazing....I never have to tune it! I have 2 e revo's i love them! i think i'll get a savage flux next ...Or maybe a 4wd buggy.. One thing is for sure when you go to a park a nitro r/c will attract every 10 yr old boy for a mile. We've all had a taste of this annoying bratty 10 yr olds that never shut up...following you around lying about how they have a r/c buggy that does 120mph and runs..on atomic energy. plus all the support equipment you need for a nitro ...All i need is a wrench to adjust my motor mount and an extra set of packs. no loud insect noise or noxious nitro smoke
NO no no you can not list to much power as a fault! go drive a toyota prius off a cliff sir lol...And now that i think of it...When esc's go out it gets ugly because they'll usually take the motor with it . But i love brushless power its amazing....I never have to tune it! I have 2 e revo's i love them! i think i'll get a savage flux next ...Or maybe a 4wd buggy.. One thing is for sure when you go to a park a nitro r/c will attract every 10 yr old boy for a mile. We've all had a taste of this annoying bratty 10 yr olds that never shut up...following you around lying about how they have a r/c buggy that does 120mph and runs..on atomic energy. plus all the support equipment you need for a nitro ...All i need is a wrench to adjust my motor mount and an extra set of packs. no loud insect noise or noxious nitro smoke
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I will say I've bought more replacement parts for my electrics though cause they go faster, and when you hit something(or land a jump bad) parts snap WAY easier
NO no no you can not list to much power as a fault! go drive a toyota prius off a cliff sir lol...And now that i think of it...When esc's go out it gets ugly because they'll usually take the motor with it . But i love brushless power its amazing....I never have to tune it! I have 2 e revo's i love them! i think i'll get a savage flux next ...Or maybe a 4wd buggy.. One thing is for sure when you go to a park a nitro r/c will attract every 10 yr old boy for a mile. We've all had a taste of this annoying bratty 10 yr olds that never shut up...following you around lying about how they have a r/c buggy that does 120mph and runs..on atomic energy. plus all the support equipment you need for a nitro ...All i need is a wrench to adjust my motor mount and an extra set of packs. no loud insect noise or noxious nitro smoke
I will say I've bought more replacement parts for my electrics though cause they go faster, and when you hit something(or land a jump bad) parts snap WAY easier
NO no no you can not list to much power as a fault! go drive a toyota prius off a cliff sir lol...And now that i think of it...When esc's go out it gets ugly because they'll usually take the motor with it . But i love brushless power its amazing....I never have to tune it! I have 2 e revo's i love them! i think i'll get a savage flux next ...Or maybe a 4wd buggy.. One thing is for sure when you go to a park a nitro r/c will attract every 10 yr old boy for a mile. We've all had a taste of this annoying bratty 10 yr olds that never shut up...following you around lying about how they have a r/c buggy that does 120mph and runs..on atomic energy. plus all the support equipment you need for a nitro ...All i need is a wrench to adjust my motor mount and an extra set of packs. no loud insect noise or noxious nitro smoke
Hell on my one truggy I never even cracked it up, and the C-hubs split in half on both sides, in identical spots. I used it for speed runs on a paved street, no jumps nothing. Something that people who left the model nitro have not seen.
Lets face it go smash your car into a brick wall going 5mph, then get another and smash it into a brick wall going 15mph and see the difference in damage. Driving off a cliff is not a good analogy seeing that is just gravity doing the work for you.
My savage which is BL also has snapped 2 dogbones within seconds of each other (other 2 were twisted pretty far), and have trashed the cups on the diffs(gotta replace em still) just from the sheer power the BL motor puts out. My nitro savage has had at least 10X more run time and is still running the same parts for over a year.
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Odd, but I don't mind the 10 year olds at all. It's nice they show an interest. Tons of less productive things they could be doing.
Odd, but I don't mind the 10 year olds at all. It's nice they show an interest. Tons of less productive things they could be doing.
Then I usually fake running out of nitro and call it a day.
Will say pulling the fake out with BL is simpler you just tap the accelerator till the motor cogs and be like OOPS its outta power and will take a few hours to recharge
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Haha about the 10yr olds never get them when i run my elos. To the OP, it really depends one what you want. If you just want to plug in a battery and go elo is for you. If you want to do some more matience and like tinkering with things then nitro is for you. Most of the matience is easy after run which takes about 5 min. Brushless is faster but you will have to shell out some cash to get some good lipos and a fast charger. I like nitro more because its more relistic, and well its just cool to see a tiny motor that is blowing out tons of smoke and pushing a rc up to 50 mph is pretty cool.
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Haha about the 10yr olds never get them when i run my elos. To the OP, it really depends one what you want. If you just want to plug in a battery and go elo is for you. If you want to do some more matience and like tinkering with things then nitro is for you. Most of the matience is easy after run which takes about 5 min. Brushless is faster but you will have to shell out some cash to get some good lipos and a fast charger. I like nitro more because its more relistic, and well its just cool to see a tiny motor that is blowing out tons of smoke and pushing a rc up to 50 mph is pretty cool.
Haha about the 10yr olds never get them when i run my elos. To the OP, it really depends one what you want. If you just want to plug in a battery and go elo is for you. If you want to do some more matience and like tinkering with things then nitro is for you. Most of the matience is easy after run which takes about 5 min. Brushless is faster but you will have to shell out some cash to get some good lipos and a fast charger. I like nitro more because its more relistic, and well its just cool to see a tiny motor that is blowing out tons of smoke and pushing a rc up to 50 mph is pretty cool.
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I really don't see why people make a big deal about top speed. How many times are you going to have to do 100mph while bashing or racing, which is what most people do. The fastest that you need your rc to do is like 60mph. More than that is just overkill
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I run lipo/brushless and nitro. I have a blast with both of them. Depends on where im running and what im doing. Nitro's have plenty of Pro's for us gearhead people. For the computer freaks that couldnt tune an engine if their life depended on it, they'll never understand.
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I really don't see why people make a big deal about top speed. How many times are you going to have to do 100mph while bashing or racing, which is what most people do. The fastest that you need your rc to do is like 60mph. More than that is just overkill
I really don't see why people make a big deal about top speed. How many times are you going to have to do 100mph while bashing or racing, which is what most people do. The fastest that you need your rc to do is like 60mph. More than that is just overkill
I find over 40 is usually overkill most Rc's I own at that point can no longer turn
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Tuning sucks, I hate it. I wanna tweak it with computer and farking go!
Tuning sucks, I hate it. I wanna tweak it with computer and farking go!
There is tuning involved with electrics, and a lot of manual labor. Just as much as getting an aftermarket setup performing properly in any electric as there is with nitro.
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Simply proof that you have never owned anything but a box-stock power system
There is tuning involved with electrics, and a lot of manual labor. Just as much as getting an aftermarket setup performing properly in any electric.
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Tuning sucks, I hate it. I wanna tweak it with computer and farking go!
Tuning sucks, I hate it. I wanna tweak it with computer and farking go!
There is tuning involved with electrics, and a lot of manual labor. Just as much as getting an aftermarket setup performing properly in any electric.
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t each there own
I find over 40 is usually overkill most Rc's I own at that point can no longer turn
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I really don't see why people make a big deal about top speed. How many times are you going to have to do 100mph while bashing or racing, which is what most people do. The fastest that you need your rc to do is like 60mph. More than that is just overkill
I really don't see why people make a big deal about top speed. How many times are you going to have to do 100mph while bashing or racing, which is what most people do. The fastest that you need your rc to do is like 60mph. More than that is just overkill
I find over 40 is usually overkill most Rc's I own at that point can no longer turn
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i would say nitro, and i own both, an electric and three nitros... i like nitro's cause they are cheaper, and i just like the mini engine and tinkering part... i like electrics cause they are quick to run, but i dont like how finicky lipo's can be, and for brushless to be faster, you have to spend quite a bit more than nitro's to reach the same speed. dont get me wrong, brushless is quite a bit faster!
imo, nitro is the way to go. i started on nitro, and without any help, i didnt have very many troubles. only things causing me problems were laziness but i guess thats what i get from taking apart and fixing up old small engines when i was young!
imo, nitro is the way to go. i started on nitro, and without any help, i didnt have very many troubles. only things causing me problems were laziness but i guess thats what i get from taking apart and fixing up old small engines when i was young!
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i like electrics cause they are quick to run, but i dont like how finicky lipo's can be, and for brushless to be faster, you have to spend quite a bit more than nitro's to reach the same speed. dont get me wrong, brushless is quite a bit faster!
i like electrics cause they are quick to run, but i dont like how finicky lipo's can be, and for brushless to be faster, you have to spend quite a bit more than nitro's to reach the same speed. dont get me wrong, brushless is quite a bit faster!
In 2004, ThunderbirdJunkie built his XXX-NT AD2.
Truck kit: $300
Servos: $120
Receiver: $50
OS .12TR: $130
ProLine Step Pins, AD2 wheels, and Edge fronts: $50ish
Shock oil and springs: 'bout 20 bucks
Receiver pack: $25
In 2010, ThunderbirdJunkie built his SC10. Basic kit, was before the FT came out.
Truck kit: $180
CVD kit: $30
Castle Sidewinder 4600: $120
lipo charger: $70
2 lipo batteries: $60
Receiver: $50
PL tires: $45ish
Both trucks are pretty equal, for the most part. The AD2 is obviously way tougher, because A: It's a Losi and not an Associated, and B: it's a top-spec full blown racetruck instead of just an unassembled RTR, but still.
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buttdud, for the most part, ThunderbirdJunkie agrees with most of what you said...however...he'd like to do a breakdown of two similarly-powered, similarly-built cars on the price point you mentioned.
In 2004, ThunderbirdJunkie built his XXX-NT AD2.
Truck kit: $300
Servos: $120
Receiver: $50
OS .12TR: $130
ProLine Step Pins, AD2 wheels, and Edge fronts: $50ish
Shock oil and springs: 'bout 20 bucks
Receiver pack: $25
In 2010, ThunderbirdJunkie built his SC10. Basic kit, was before the FT came out.
Truck kit: $180
CVD kit: $30
Castle Sidewinder 4600: $120
lipo charger: $70
2 lipo batteries: $60
Receiver: $50
PL tires: $45ish
Both trucks are pretty equal, for the most part. The AD2 is obviously way tougher, because A: It's a Losi and not an Associated, and B: it's a top-spec full blown racetruck instead of just an unassembled RTR, but still.
ORIGINAL: buttdud1122
i like electrics cause they are quick to run, but i dont like how finicky lipo's can be, and for brushless to be faster, you have to spend quite a bit more than nitro's to reach the same speed. dont get me wrong, brushless is quite a bit faster!
i like electrics cause they are quick to run, but i dont like how finicky lipo's can be, and for brushless to be faster, you have to spend quite a bit more than nitro's to reach the same speed. dont get me wrong, brushless is quite a bit faster!
In 2004, ThunderbirdJunkie built his XXX-NT AD2.
Truck kit: $300
Servos: $120
Receiver: $50
OS .12TR: $130
ProLine Step Pins, AD2 wheels, and Edge fronts: $50ish
Shock oil and springs: 'bout 20 bucks
Receiver pack: $25
In 2010, ThunderbirdJunkie built his SC10. Basic kit, was before the FT came out.
Truck kit: $180
CVD kit: $30
Castle Sidewinder 4600: $120
lipo charger: $70
2 lipo batteries: $60
Receiver: $50
PL tires: $45ish
Both trucks are pretty equal, for the most part. The AD2 is obviously way tougher, because A: It's a Losi and not an Associated, and B: it's a top-spec full blown racetruck instead of just an unassembled RTR, but still.
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Oh yeah. Nothing will ever replace nitro.
The only reason ThunderbirdJunkie hasn't run much nitro this year is because he's been doing a lot of short course racing. We'll see what happens when his XXX-NT short course truck is finished, though[&:]
The only reason ThunderbirdJunkie hasn't run much nitro this year is because he's been doing a lot of short course racing. We'll see what happens when his XXX-NT short course truck is finished, though[&:]
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There's no such thing as a 2wd nitro short course truck :P That's why ThunderbirdJunkie is converting one
an OS 18 CV-R shouldn't have any issue pulling a 5.5lb truck around the track and passing all the 10.5s [&:]
an OS 18 CV-R shouldn't have any issue pulling a 5.5lb truck around the track and passing all the 10.5s [&:]
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I enjoy both, brushless for the insane power to weight capability and swoooshhh sound nitro for the tinkering, no charging (aside from radio gear) and screammm sound
and about the 10y boys, dont get so down, you could get lucky and have a couple hot girls approach you, its happened to me before
and about the 10y boys, dont get so down, you could get lucky and have a couple hot girls approach you, its happened to me before
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There's no such thing as a 2wd nitro short course truck :P That's why ThunderbirdJunkie is converting one
an OS 18 CV-R shouldn't have any issue pulling a 5.5lb truck around the track and passing all the 10.5s [&:]
There's no such thing as a 2wd nitro short course truck :P That's why ThunderbirdJunkie is converting one
an OS 18 CV-R shouldn't have any issue pulling a 5.5lb truck around the track and passing all the 10.5s [&:]