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Old 03-05-2013, 08:06 PM
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Default savage 25 no wheelies

Why? I'm running stock tire size stock. 25 engine 3 speed trans alum clutch shoes stock clutch bell gear and largest spur gear available. 53 t I think. Slipper is tight and I can't seem to be able to get it to run lean it just bogs down too much either way. Maybe I've lost my pinch? Its not eating glow plugs yet tho. Idk guys any comments would be appreciated. Also I got it used and my buddy I got it from turned the rear diff posi for some reason Idk y. I do want to fix that back but he super glued it!!! Maybe acetone bath? Y would it be good to have it posi? Takes a frigging acre to turn it around lol
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:14 PM
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Default RE: savage 25 no wheelies

it aint your pinch cause if you lost that the engine would cut out after 5 minutes, and not restart till it cooled off.


Question do you have shock pre-load spacers in the shocks? if not add some, if you have some add another basically if you jack the ride height up as far as possible it will wheelie easier
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:18 PM
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Yessir that boy will idle the whole tank down if I wanted it to. I've tried reloading the rear even with the zip tie trick to no avail...
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:33 PM
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Default RE: savage 25 no wheelies

Heck my buddies tmaxx is a wheelie beast and its all stock except for some rpm a arms and its about worn out. I have a hard time getting it to stay running for him long enough to break it keeping up with my bashing on the savage. Maybe it isn't fast but wow buddy its tough
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:26 PM
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Default RE: savage 25 no wheelies

hmm weird
is your slipper pad good?
that might have gotten worn down.
I've had the opposite issue with my savage I worked to get it to stop wheeling lol
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:31 PM
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Default RE: savage 25 no wheelies

Naw the new spur came with a new slipper pad. What setup were you using to get it to wheelie? Ppl are starting to annoy me when they see it and then say "that's weak" when me and tmaxx buddy are driving around together.
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:38 PM
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I keep thinking its my tune but I keep working it a little at a time leaner and it just won't do it. Maybe the low end needle is off? I got it used so Idk what is up with this thang.  Other than that its slow and heavy and jumps like a rock but won't bottom out even if I drive it off the roof!!! Gooo hpi!!!
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:03 AM
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Are your brakes dragging?

Is there any resistance when you try rolling the truck by hand?
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:13 AM
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Lol no. Also there's no alum parts everything is still stock. ( can't break it lol)
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Default RE: savage 25 no wheelies

The only thing over looked are the clutch springs,

Perhaps the stock clutch springs from the carbon clutch shoes were used on the heavier alloy clutch shoes?

This will allow the clutch to engage to early choking the engine,
as its not allowing the engine to get into its power range before engaging

You will see a huge difference by purchasing a set of 1.1mm clutch springs.
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:37 AM
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Default RE: savage 25 no wheelies

Now we are getting somewhere. Yes [:'(] I used the old springs. But let's just say that wasn't the problem. Then what?
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That is the problem.
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These will be what your after

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kyosho-Hard-...item20b8125f15
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:46 AM
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Great! Thanks
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Default RE: savage 25 no wheelies

I bought my Savage used about 2 years ago. It too was the .25 and came with the stock HPI .25 engine. Are you sure you just don't have enough power? Mine wouldn't wheely either, i was also using the 52 spur. Changed to a LRP .28 now it wheelys and flips all the time, even with the extended TVPs.
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Default RE: savage 25 no wheelies

Maybe. But it starts easy and runs till I stop putting nitro I it.
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:08 AM
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Default RE: savage 25 no wheelies

Actually I was looking at the dynamite Mach 2 .28 big red monster. Any good for my savage?
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:17 AM
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Default RE: savage 25 no wheelies

It may be your exhaust as well, are you still using the plastic pipe that it came with? If so get rid of that pipe you will notice the difference immediately as you will have to do a retune. I would suggest the ofna 086 or maybe even the hpi polished pipe if you are on a tight budget. I have never used the big red engine myself, it would definately be an upgrade from your .25. If you are looking for a power monster get ahold of Neal at clockwork racing engines, he is the best in the business and he can make some good suggestions for you. He is a member on this forum, user name supertib. Hope this helps.
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Default RE: savage 25 no wheelies

Did you tighten the slipper nut all the way down? If not that could be an issue to.. I know in the past on my nitro Savage's and now with my Savage Flux's if the slipper ain't locked down there won't be any wheelies...
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Yea its tight as can be. I'm gonna save up for the pipe and see if I can't tear some gears up then lol.
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Every now and then my Savage will loose its ability to wheelie. I lean the LSN a tad and then can't stop it from doing wheelies. ;-)

If you are confident it's tuned correctly, I agree you should check out the clutch. Also, have you modified your droop at all? This can affect how the front lifts during acceleration (I know it does on buggies/truggies).

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No idk this thing is kinda weird. It puts good smoke out when I gas it up I even when I lean it till it just dies. Freaky
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Default RE: savage 25 no wheelies

That may be your problem, it could be too lean. Did you try richening it up some? What fuel are you running?
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Default RE: savage 25 no wheelies

Don't waste your money on an hpi polished pipe it's garbage,

the stock plastic pipe will make way more power and isn't as loud,

If you are looking to get more wheelie power an ofna 086 is not the pipe to do it either,
As its a top end pipe,

An 053 pipe from any of the pipe manufacturers will make a real good difference to low and mid range power,

Honestly though if every thing else is fine the 1.1mm springs will make all the difference in off the line punch.
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No idk this thing is kinda weird. It puts good smoke out when I gas it up I even when I lean it till it just dies. Freaky
Are you leaning the high speed or low speed? You should be leaning the low speed. BTW I noticed your from Gainesville, I live in White.
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