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09-09-2004, 09:46 PM
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hey guys i have ran into a problem when i put my dual disk brakes...
i have relised a problem i hear a craklin noise and i noticed its coming from my front gear box..
whats wrong with it and what could of caused this..
i have relised a problem i hear a craklin noise and i noticed its coming from my front gear box..
whats wrong with it and what could of caused this..
09-09-2004, 10:12 PM
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RE: why!!!!!!
Well, when you put on the dual brakes, the increased stopping power transfers the stress from your brake disc to the drive shafts and diff gears. This results in the well-known dual disc front flip effect. It has worn your front diff gears and that is the reason for the "crackling" or as in mine a grinding noise. You need to replace the gears and do the 4 spider mod to strengthen your diff. I am just waiting for mine to completely wear out before fixing it... I figure if I am buying all new geas I will destroy the ones I am going to replace. Tower has all of the parts, if you need a parts list....
For both axles:
HPI Diff case set (part# 85004)-you can also use after market aluminum ones
2 sets of OFNA Cross Pins (part#30773)
4 HPI bevel gear sets (part#86032)
Diff oil (I believe 3k in front and 5k in rear)
For both axles:
HPI Diff case set (part# 85004)-you can also use after market aluminum ones
2 sets of OFNA Cross Pins (part#30773)
4 HPI bevel gear sets (part#86032)
Diff oil (I believe 3k in front and 5k in rear)
09-09-2004, 10:41 PM
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RE: why!!!!!!
hey can u do me a favor and post the links for those items on tower cuse i cant seem to find them thanx alot please include everything i need for the mod
09-10-2004, 11:20 AM
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RE: why!!!!!!
http://www.savageunleashed.com/artic...30428054217449
go there for a complete list of parts & pictures of how to do the spider mod.
Hope that helps.
go there for a complete list of parts & pictures of how to do the spider mod.
Hope that helps.
09-10-2004, 11:52 AM
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RE: why!!!!!!
ORIGINAL: Acs_guitars
Well, when you put on the dual brakes, the increased stopping power transfers the stress from your brake disc to the drive shafts and diff gears. This results in the well-known dual disc front flip effect. It has worn your front diff gears and that is the reason for the "crackling" or as in mine a grinding noise. You need to replace the gears and do the 4 spider mod to strengthen your diff. I am just waiting for mine to completely wear out before fixing it... I figure if I am buying all new geas I will destroy the ones I am going to replace. Tower has all of the parts, if you need a parts list....
For both axles:
HPI Diff case set (part# 85004)-you can also use after market aluminum ones
2 sets of OFNA Cross Pins (part#30773)
4 HPI bevel gear sets (part#86032)
Diff oil (I believe 3k in front and 5k in rear)
Well, when you put on the dual brakes, the increased stopping power transfers the stress from your brake disc to the drive shafts and diff gears. This results in the well-known dual disc front flip effect. It has worn your front diff gears and that is the reason for the "crackling" or as in mine a grinding noise. You need to replace the gears and do the 4 spider mod to strengthen your diff. I am just waiting for mine to completely wear out before fixing it... I figure if I am buying all new geas I will destroy the ones I am going to replace. Tower has all of the parts, if you need a parts list....
For both axles:
HPI Diff case set (part# 85004)-you can also use after market aluminum ones
2 sets of OFNA Cross Pins (part#30773)
4 HPI bevel gear sets (part#86032)
Diff oil (I believe 3k in front and 5k in rear)
09-10-2004, 02:41 PM
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RE: why!!!!!!
I already said it.....
The 2-disc brake tears up the RING GEAR ON THE DIFF AND THE PINION, it doesn't matter if you have 2 or 4 gears inside the diff, that isn't affected; neither is it a factor.
The 2-disc brake tears up the RING GEAR ON THE DIFF AND THE PINION, it doesn't matter if you have 2 or 4 gears inside the diff, that isn't affected; neither is it a factor.
09-11-2004, 03:24 PM
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RE: why!!!!!!
nah how did i get screwed almost every one that ones a savage has dual disk brakea and not alot of them have this problem
its somthing that u can fix but i dont know what the hell frost is saying so frost hat do i need to fix this problem
its somthing that u can fix but i dont know what the hell frost is saying so frost hat do i need to fix this problem
09-12-2004, 01:34 AM
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RE: why!!!!!!
What you need is to get yourself some shims (which no hobby shops near me seem to carry) so that you can reduce most of the play around your tranny & diff gears. A little bit of shimming should go a loooong way towards reducing wear.
09-12-2004, 02:30 PM
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RE: why!!!!!!
if you have your brakes really keen in the way it lifts the back end when you stamp on the brakes back the brakes of. Ive seen loads go because they all do it.Ok it looks good but it has the same out come.
09-12-2004, 06:42 PM
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RE: why!!!!!!
so i should decrease the toping power and what are shims can u post me some picks and what are they used for where do u place them
09-12-2004, 07:59 PM
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RE: why!!!!!!
i have had my truck for a while now and i got my ddual brakes the 1st week i got my savage
and nvr had ANY probs with diffs
but i did do the spider mod like 2 weeks ago
and nvr had ANY probs with diffs
but i did do the spider mod like 2 weeks ago
09-12-2004, 09:15 PM
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RE: why!!!!!!
yah i just think some people are on crack and dont know what they talking about but yeah i need to replace my front gear box anyway so it really doesnt matter
09-14-2004, 11:41 AM
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RE: why!!!!!!
i will agree with Frost on this one.. it does sound logical.. i mean the stress is on the front diff.. and with the 4 spider mod.. the actual inner diff would not be harm like the outside ring gear and pinion... all the indos will eventually stripp it..
but this has not happened to me.. but then again... im not WOT and then coming to a complete stop either..
i would take alot of bad driving to strip that bad boy
but this has not happened to me.. but then again... im not WOT and then coming to a complete stop either..
i would take alot of bad driving to strip that bad boy
09-14-2004, 12:56 PM
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but this has not happened to me.. but then again... im not WOT and then coming to a complete stop either..
i would take alot of bad driving to strip that bad boy
but this has not happened to me.. but then again... im not WOT and then coming to a complete stop either..
i would take alot of bad driving to strip that bad boy
with my picco and i never even touched the diffs. they never broke or stripped or anything of that sort and i still had the 2 spider gear setup. but i did manage to bend my brake discs though. he he 
09-14-2004, 01:09 PM
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i did that for 3 weeks straight, doing endos and front flips with my picco and i never even touched the diffs. they never broke or stripped or anything of that sort and i still had the 2 spider gear setup. but i did manage to bend my brake discs though. he he
i did that for 3 weeks straight, doing endos and front flips
with my picco and i never even touched the diffs. they never broke or stripped or anything of that sort and i still had the 2 spider gear setup. but i did manage to bend my brake discs though. he he
i wanted to do the 4 spider to get better proformance.. when i opened both my diffs.. (the cylinder bar that holds the gears in place) was eating into the plastic of my diff..
it was just a matter of time before both diffs would of popped on me..
also.. the picco has soo much power.. the all my cups where being eatin by the dog bones.. so i had to install hd cups as well..
09-14-2004, 01:24 PM
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awsome yeah but i dont know hwy this is happening maybe my brakes are on really really really tight hey blaze lax said ur really getto
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awsome yeah but i dont know hwy this is happening maybe my brakes are on really really really tight hey blaze lax said ur really getto
awsome yeah but i dont know hwy this is happening maybe my brakes are on really really really tight hey blaze lax said ur really getto
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