ntloser

Hi,

What are the benefits of upgrading to a 40 series rim and tire? I kinda like the big joes and the outback rim look but everybody is doing it. Do I need an adaptor for 4o series rims and tires? What are the benefits? what are the drawbacks?

Thanks again...

proxpilot

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i dont know about the benefits or the drawbacks but i have the big joes with velocity 6's on my savage and like them alot.

ntloser

Did you need adaptors?

PARTS MAGNET

I also have the big joes and love them good grip and handling. If you have a savage you dont need adapters.

PigsOnTheWing

Ntloser, I will give you another opinion. I have Big Joes on 40s on a Savage SS, and although I like them and they deifnately look cool, they are harder on the drivetrain than the stock setup. The stock rims/tires sre desingned to be more efficient with the originsl Savage setup. I had to gear down to 13/49 to have the pickup similar to stock, was running 16/52 steel gears with stock setup. The low gears and Big Joe's destroyed my aluminum clutch in two days. The only benefit I liked was jump control because of the weight. I am no longer running these, I like the stock setup so much better, you just have to learn ghow to throttle when you're in the air.
As a mater of fact, wanna buy mine? half price or less - tennesseeREMOVEfanATrepairmandotREMOVEcom - post back if you cant figure out that address

ntloser

Hi,

I would have bought yours except I purchased the joes and cheyennes almost a month ago. I definitely lost some wheelie ability and had to put in a 49 tooth spur to make up for the extra weight and diameter.

bibo

The Big Joes looks great , but they are heavy .

I want both Big Joes and power so I ordered the Sirio .30 and the 3 speed.

Although the K4.6 is doing a good job with the Big Joes , but I need more power.

Nitronutt

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The benefits to the 40 series are: less tire roll, wider (I.e. more stable) contact patch, less ballooning and better looks. The weight difference is small when comparing the big joes to the Savage 25 series stock tires. The weight difference between the 4.6ss dirt bones and the big joes is much greater. The dirt bones can be compared to the proline bowties and offer great traction, but seem to wear more quickly than other designs. The smaller diameter and lighter weight will give you more wheelies (As you noted).

As far as toasting an aluminum clutch in 2 days with the big joes, um, that must have been an OFNA clutch.

There really aren't any drawbacks other than regearing (For the larger diameter) and the cost.

NT, if you don't like the performance, try something different. Expect to change gearing with any different size tire.

Hey Pigs, you wanna sell them? I emailed ya.

imdjenk

Depends how you drive. I actually went smaller. I put on the traxxas sportmaxx wheels and tires for a smaller diameter, lighter combination. Better low end gearin AND turning characteristics on dirt because of the tread design. Depending on where you are running, gearing makes a BIG difference. I race at the local track so I am not looking for top speed, I want to launch full blast out of a turn and clear those double jumps. That's when the Losi and Revo guys start accusing me of port and polishing my stock 25. I kept my stock wheels for bashing.

bibo

What's wrong with OFNA Aluminum clutch shoe ? I will fit it on my Sirio .30 geared 19/47.

Nitronutt

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The OFNA shoes wear much faster than the Nova or the Mugen aluminum shoes.

Frost_

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I had a set of those Ofna shoes that wore out in a few quarts (1/2gal or so) worth of fuel. I have heard that other users here have had good luck with them, but they seem soft... I run the Mugen shoes and 1.1 MM springs. The Nova shoes (with NONE of the added weights) are very nice too.

bibo

Thanks guys for your input , my problem is that I can only buy from Tower as they are the only place that excepts credit card issued where I live and Tower only have the OFNA and that's why also I got the Sirio and not the Collari .

Anyway Tower should have the new HPI Aluminum shoes by mid June , I'll give them a try hope they are better.

Nitronutt

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Bibo, try www.hobbyguyrc.com
He ships worldwide and can accept credit cards OR PAYPAL! Give him a try. His prices are awesome, too! Collari with Rotostart for $199!
And I bought a set of the Mugen shoes for my LST from him for $17 or so.

bibo

Thanks for the link , i'll give them a try

:Green:

I got my Mugens from tower.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&l=LXJAP0&P=RF

:Green:

for some reason I cant get the link to work, but they do have them and sell them.
just enter mugen clutch shoes in the Tower search.

Frost_

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http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXJAP0&P=ML

:Green:

=ML.....came up RF on mine. strange...

bibo

is it ok if I use the stock springs with the Mugen Shoes as I noticed they come without the springs

:Green:

Im using the stock springs, the extra set that came in the SS kit. so far they have been working great.

Nitronutt

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Try this link to tower: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXJAP0&P=7

Nitronutt

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Or save $3+ and go here: http://www.hobbieguyrc.com/catalog/m...es_3181822.htm

bibo

Thanks to all of you guys you've been so helpful

mziadeh

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I run the proline 40 series velocity 6 with 40 series bowties, and the helped the handling of the truck greatly. She almost handles like a street car now. I only use them on the track and when I'm out bashing around, I use the stock rims and tires and let me tell you there is a big weight difference. I have to gear down with the stock rims and tires because they are so heavy. No, you don't need any adapter to make them fit on the savage. For racing on a track, I recommend getting the 40 series rims and bowties.
BTW, the HPI Dirt Bonz are similar to the Proline Bowties.