Just tore up my first spur gear
02-17-2007, 05:37 PM
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Just tore up my first spur gear
Bought the Savage X on Monday - broke the engine in all week and installed a THS exhaust, failsafe and rechargeable battery pack with a new switch yesterday and today. I did some tuning and finally had it running pretty good. I almost had it doing donuts on a dry road - I mean it was screaming. Then I built a nice little snow jump in the cul-de-sac and was having fun with that. Apparently I hit it going to fast and the next thing I new my truck wasn't going anywhere. I ran over and sure enough 3/4 of the spur gear teeth were gone. So tonight I get to learn how to change a spur gear. I going to take it off tonight and run to the HS first thing in the morning for a replacement (I called already and they have one). I already have a metal one on order.
Man, this is an addicting hobby.
If anyone wants to post some useful tips, be my guest. I'm sure people have done this before. 
Man, this is an addicting hobby.
If anyone wants to post some useful tips, be my guest. I'm sure people have done this before.
02-17-2007, 05:43 PM
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RE: Just tore up my first spur gear
1... never land a jump with the gas on, it will strip the spur, 2.... snow, after running it in...[
] oh and screaming?... how many tanks you run through it??...
sounds like you are having fun anyway dude, just mesh the steel spur properly!!...
oh and keep bashing!!....[>:] [>:] [>:]
] oh and screaming?... how many tanks you run through it??...sounds like you are having fun anyway dude, just mesh the steel spur properly!!...
oh and keep bashing!!....[>:] [>:] [>:]
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RE: Just tore up my first spur gear
Its good to hear your doing your own repairs, this way you get to learn from your mistakes. About the metral spur makes sure you get a matching clutch bell, the stock bells you have now will get shreded in about 1 tank with a metal spur. Oh and welcome to the forum 
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02-17-2007, 06:06 PM
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RE: Just tore up my first spur gear
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1... never land a jump with the gas on, it will strip the spur, 2.... snow, after running it in...[] oh and screaming?... how many tanks you run through it??...
sounds like you are having fun anyway dude, just mesh the steel spur properly!!...
oh and keep bashing!!....[>:] [>:] [>:]
1... never land a jump with the gas on, it will strip the spur, 2.... snow, after running it in...[
] oh and screaming?... how many tanks you run through it??...sounds like you are having fun anyway dude, just mesh the steel spur properly!!...
oh and keep bashing!!....[>:] [>:] [>:]
1. I didn't know that. It wasn't a huge jump, but I was flying nonetheless. Lesson learned.
2. Not sure what two is
I was on the road, but had taken some plowed snow and moved it into the street for my ghetto fabulous jump.3. Screaming in that I finally got it to run past mid throttle without sputtering and sounding like poop. The THS pipe sounds great.
4. I ran through 5 tanks before I started tuning it.
I am having a blast with this thing!
02-17-2007, 06:09 PM
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RE: Just tore up my first spur gear
in both my cars, i tear up spurs, i set the mesh right i know i do.. i know what my problem is also.. i like to be heavy on gas when i land its tough because a lot of times it will hit a bump and then it wil rev up and land with the gas on.. and i can hear it screeching the whole time after that.. by the end of the tank its gone... i think ive made it like 5 tanks without changing a spur :] i never got a steel one.. but im working on my heavy gas addiction and i have been trying to control it.. its just soo much fun..
If its not the spurs.. its the diffs.. everytime, ive actually gone 2 tanks now in the snow without anything breaking.. YAY
its tough because a lot of times it will hit a bump and then it wil rev up and land with the gas on.. and i can hear it screeching the whole time after that.. by the end of the tank its gone... i think ive made it like 5 tanks without changing a spur :] i never got a steel one.. but im working on my heavy gas addiction and i have been trying to control it.. its just soo much fun..If its not the spurs.. its the diffs.. everytime, ive actually gone 2 tanks now in the snow without anything breaking.. YAY
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RE: Just tore up my first spur gear
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Its good to hear your doing your own repairs, this way you get to learn from your mistakes. About the metral spur makes sure you get a matching clutch bell, the stock bells you have now will get shreded in about 1 tank with a metal spur. Oh and welcome to the forum.
Its good to hear your doing your own repairs, this way you get to learn from your mistakes. About the metral spur makes sure you get a matching clutch bell, the stock bells you have now will get shreded in about 1 tank with a metal spur. Oh and welcome to the forum
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I am a pretty handy guy and I did a lot of my own work on my Mustang (until I got to the supercharger). Granted these are smaller parts that regular car parts, but the concept is the same. I will ask about the matching clutch bell. They didn't say anything to me at the LHS about it. I'll ask her about it tomorrow when I go to pick up my plastic one.
Thanks for the welcome. [sm=thumbup.gif]
02-17-2007, 07:52 PM
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RE: Just tore up my first spur gear
Dont sweat it, the plastic spurs are disposable anyways. Like evaderstbasher siad, the plastic spur gets stripped in some very intersting ways. I even had pebles imbedded in mine! I guess the friction made the spur so hot that the teethe melted off and any bebbles in the area was simply pressed into it like m&ms into a choclate chip cookie.
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RE: Just tore up my first spur gear
I personally prefer steel to plastic. Like mentioned previously, be sure to get a quality hardened CB as well if you get a steel spur.
There are many plastic die hard fans and they will tell you that plastic is the way to go and you should learn to mesh the gears properly. Plastic or steel is a matter of preference and each has its advantages and disadvantages. The plastic fans are correct about one thing: a proper mesh is essential for both plastic and steel. A poor mesh will rin both; the difference is plastic is cheap ($4) and steel is expensive ($45+).
Steel has the following advantage: no more stripped spurs, strength.
Its disadvantages: heavier and more moment of enertia (hurts acceleration). The torque that would normally break the plastic spur is transmitted further down the drivetrain to potentially break someting else.
There are many plastic die hard fans and they will tell you that plastic is the way to go and you should learn to mesh the gears properly. Plastic or steel is a matter of preference and each has its advantages and disadvantages. The plastic fans are correct about one thing: a proper mesh is essential for both plastic and steel. A poor mesh will rin both; the difference is plastic is cheap ($4) and steel is expensive ($45+).
Steel has the following advantage: no more stripped spurs, strength.
Its disadvantages: heavier and more moment of enertia (hurts acceleration). The torque that would normally break the plastic spur is transmitted further down the drivetrain to potentially break someting else.
02-17-2007, 10:06 PM
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RE: Just tore up my first spur gear
When I go to install the new plastic spur gear tomorrow, is there any adjusting that needs to be done or do I just reattach it and screw the unit back in place?
02-17-2007, 10:18 PM
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RE: Just tore up my first spur gear
Just attach the screw and tighten down according to how much torque your engine makes. The HPI slipper design is pretty crappy and the bolt will all off almost 9 times out of ten. I crank mine down all the way and live with the consequences.
As far as adjustments, just mesh it correctly, thats it. You might want to adjust your tranny shift points too if you changed your CB/spur gear ratio.
As far as adjustments, just mesh it correctly, thats it. You might want to adjust your tranny shift points too if you changed your CB/spur gear ratio.
02-18-2007, 12:21 AM
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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam
Bought the Savage X on Monday - broke the engine in all week and installed a THS exhaust, failsafe and rechargeable battery pack with a new switch yesterday and today. I did some tuning and finally had it running pretty good. I almost had it doing donuts on a dry road - I mean it was screaming. Then I built a nice little snow jump in the cul-de-sac and was having fun with that. Apparently I hit it going to fast and the next thing I new my truck wasn't going anywhere. I ran over and sure enough 3/4 of the spur gear teeth were gone. So tonight I get to learn how to change a spur gear. I going to take it off tonight and run to the HS first thing in the morning for a replacement (I called already and they have one). I already have a metal one on order.
Man, this is an addicting hobby. If anyone wants to post some useful tips, be my guest. I'm sure people have done this before.
Bought the Savage X on Monday - broke the engine in all week and installed a THS exhaust, failsafe and rechargeable battery pack with a new switch yesterday and today. I did some tuning and finally had it running pretty good. I almost had it doing donuts on a dry road - I mean it was screaming. Then I built a nice little snow jump in the cul-de-sac and was having fun with that. Apparently I hit it going to fast and the next thing I new my truck wasn't going anywhere. I ran over and sure enough 3/4 of the spur gear teeth were gone. So tonight I get to learn how to change a spur gear. I going to take it off tonight and run to the HS first thing in the morning for a replacement (I called already and they have one). I already have a metal one on order.
Man, this is an addicting hobby.
If anyone wants to post some useful tips, be my guest. I'm sure people have done this before.
also, it's WAY easier to change your spur by removing the top of the transmission, rather than doing it the "old school" Savage way, which entails removing the engine and fuel tank.
02-18-2007, 10:18 AM
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RE: Just tore up my first spur gear
Yea especially if you have the new x transmission its super easy to remove the top. If you bought an RTR chances are it wasnt meshed properly to begin with. Its the first thing you should check before running an RTR I would reset it just to be on the safe side.
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RE: Just tore up my first spur gear
Well I installed the new plastic spur gear and it was super easy. The mesh looked fine, so I didn't mess with it. I am guessing that the stripped teeth were a result of my power on landing after the jump and not the engine shifting. I just got back from running 6 tanks of fuel. I found a huge dirt parking lot about 3 miles from my house. My son and I ran it hard and the spur gear is fine. I did bust the antenna tube and I lost a body clip when I rolled it, but other than that it is A-OK. It ran like a rapped ape. [8D]
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RE: Just tore up my first spur gear
Good to hear from a new Savage X owner, BicketyBam. suggest sticking with plastic. I've had my Savage X for about 4 mths.
I've broken a ton of parts, most recently stripped my rear diff. I have been through 1-1/2 gallons of fuel and have yet to strip a spur yet. Like many others I only checked the gear mesh after the fact. I got lucky, it was perfectly meshed. Peace.
I've broken a ton of parts, most recently stripped my rear diff. I have been through 1-1/2 gallons of fuel and have yet to strip a spur yet. Like many others I only checked the gear mesh after the fact. I got lucky, it was perfectly meshed. Peace.
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RE: Just tore up my first spur gear
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I usually ask their permission first!
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ORIGINAL: groovethumper
Good to hear from a new Savage X owner, BicketyBam. suggest sticking with plastic. I've had my Savage X for about 4 mths.
I've broken a ton of parts, most recently stripped my rear diff. I have been through 1-1/2 gallons of fuel and have yet to strip a spur yet. Like many others I only checked the gear mesh after the fact. I got lucky, it was perfectly meshed. Peace.
Good to hear from a new Savage X owner, BicketyBam. suggest sticking with plastic. I've had my Savage X for about 4 mths.
I've broken a ton of parts, most recently stripped my rear diff. I have been through 1-1/2 gallons of fuel and have yet to strip a spur yet. Like many others I only checked the gear mesh after the fact. I got lucky, it was perfectly meshed. Peace.
02-18-2007, 11:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: groovethumper
I usually ask their permission first!
ORIGINAL: evaderstbasher
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hey evader...pm me, i was in Cincinnati this weekend. i'll have to pack my buggy and savvy next time i go down and do some cincy bashin
Bickety, glad you got the truck back up and runninB-) this cold weather sucks...i'm about to get some paddles for my savvy to run in the deep-arse snow, LOL
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ORIGINAL: ThunderbirdJunkie
it's not rape if you have permission!
hey evader...pm me, i was in Cincinnati this weekend. i'll have to pack my buggy and savvy next time i go down and do some cincy bashin
Bickety, glad you got the truck back up and runninB-) this cold weather sucks...i'm about to get some paddles for my savvy to run in the deep-arse snow, LOL
ORIGINAL: groovethumper
I usually ask their permission first!
ORIGINAL: evaderstbasher
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I love raping apes
hey evader...pm me, i was in Cincinnati this weekend. i'll have to pack my buggy and savvy next time i go down and do some cincy bashin
Bickety, glad you got the truck back up and runninB-) this cold weather sucks...i'm about to get some paddles for my savvy to run in the deep-arse snow, LOL
You cant rape the willing as t-bird said
02-19-2007, 04:28 PM
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RE: Just tore up my first spur gear
ORIGINAL: evaderstbasher
You cant rape the willing as t-bird said
ORIGINAL: ThunderbirdJunkie
it's not rape if you have permission!
hey evader...pm me, i was in Cincinnati this weekend. i'll have to pack my buggy and savvy next time i go down and do some cincy bashin
Bickety, glad you got the truck back up and runninB-) this cold weather sucks...i'm about to get some paddles for my savvy to run in the deep-arse snow, LOL
ORIGINAL: groovethumper
I usually ask their permission first!
ORIGINAL: evaderstbasher
I love raping apes
I love raping apes
hey evader...pm me, i was in Cincinnati this weekend. i'll have to pack my buggy and savvy next time i go down and do some cincy bashin
Bickety, glad you got the truck back up and runninB-) this cold weather sucks...i'm about to get some paddles for my savvy to run in the deep-arse snow, LOL
You cant rape the willing as t-bird said
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RE: Just tore up my first spur gear
ORIGINAL: BicketyBam
I am hooked like a junkie on smack. I just wish it was spring. The cold sucks.
ORIGINAL: groovethumper
Good to hear from a new Savage X owner, BicketyBam. suggest sticking with plastic. I've had my Savage X for about 4 mths.
I've broken a ton of parts, most recently stripped my rear diff. I have been through 1-1/2 gallons of fuel and have yet to strip a spur yet. Like many others I only checked the gear mesh after the fact. I got lucky, it was perfectly meshed. Peace.
Good to hear from a new Savage X owner, BicketyBam. suggest sticking with plastic. I've had my Savage X for about 4 mths.
I've broken a ton of parts, most recently stripped my rear diff. I have been through 1-1/2 gallons of fuel and have yet to strip a spur yet. Like many others I only checked the gear mesh after the fact. I got lucky, it was perfectly meshed. Peace.
