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Yes, it's me once again, posting yet another thread.
So as the learning progresses, I've come to find that one of the threads on that keep the cooling head in place is stripped. No matter what I do (even using lock tight), I cannot get it completely sealed. So, I've been having an air leak within the engine. It must have even worsened because after it did run for a while today, it died at half a tank, and the temp was 280 F. The fuel was boiling off at the carb. When I tried to start it up after it cooled down, it sputtered fuel out from beneath the head.
My friend and I are fairly confident that this engine is just toast especially since the thread is stripped and the engine is just old and used. (It's the stock one from the 21.)
What engines do you guys recommend for me that will be a direct swap, and within the range of $80 to $150 Canadian? I hear that Axial (sp?) is a good brand, as well as HPI's.
Your input would be great!
So as the learning progresses, I've come to find that one of the threads on that keep the cooling head in place is stripped. No matter what I do (even using lock tight), I cannot get it completely sealed. So, I've been having an air leak within the engine. It must have even worsened because after it did run for a while today, it died at half a tank, and the temp was 280 F. The fuel was boiling off at the carb. When I tried to start it up after it cooled down, it sputtered fuel out from beneath the head.
My friend and I are fairly confident that this engine is just toast especially since the thread is stripped and the engine is just old and used. (It's the stock one from the 21.)
What engines do you guys recommend for me that will be a direct swap, and within the range of $80 to $150 Canadian? I hear that Axial (sp?) is a good brand, as well as HPI's.
Your input would be great!
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Yep - Axial 28 Spec 1S. Cheap, powerful, plentifully available, robust, easy to break-in and tune, etc..
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Search. This topic pops up just about daily here.
Search. This topic pops up just about daily here.
I understand the repetitiveness but sometimes one just needs a direct answer.
Thanks for the input so far.
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get a surefire 32
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I say get the Axial .28ci Spec1S, it's affordable and a seriously significant upgrade to the .21BB. The Spec1S is a great bashing engine, and some even race with it (for me, I would not chosse that engine for racing, only bashing).
DO NOT get a K4.6 or F4.6, these are not worth the additional amount f money you will wind up spending on the. The Axial engine will be cheaper.
DO NOT get a K4.6 or F4.6, these are not worth the additional amount f money you will wind up spending on the. The Axial engine will be cheaper.
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Hey KNIGHTFALL, have you checked out great hobbies? They have a store in Edmonton and one in PEI I think and they have a decent engine selection. No sure fires or sts's or whatever but I ordered an Axial .28 spec one and a .28rr from them and numerous other parts. They have awesome service and you dont have to pay duty like you would if you ordered it from the states. Check em out if you already havent http://www.greathobbies.com/rccars-trucks/
http://www.greathobbies.com/search/r...srchvendor=AXL
http://www.greathobbies.com/search/r...srchvendor=AXL
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Hey KNIGHTFALL, have you checked out great hobbies? They have a store in Edmonton and one in PEI I think and they have a decent engine selection. No sure fires or sts's or whatever but I ordered an Axial .28 spec one and a .28rr from them and numerous other parts. They have awesome service and you dont have to pay duty like you would if you ordered it from the states. Check em out if you already havent http://www.greathobbies.com/rccars-trucks/
http://www.greathobbies.com/search/r...srchvendor=AXL
Hey KNIGHTFALL, have you checked out great hobbies? They have a store in Edmonton and one in PEI I think and they have a decent engine selection. No sure fires or sts's or whatever but I ordered an Axial .28 spec one and a .28rr from them and numerous other parts. They have awesome service and you dont have to pay duty like you would if you ordered it from the states. Check em out if you already havent http://www.greathobbies.com/rccars-trucks/
http://www.greathobbies.com/search/r...srchvendor=AXL
Thanks. I see I can get this Axial 28 S1 for $149 CDN. I'm hoping to get the new engine soon (I'm moving soon, have a freelance project coming up, and winter is soon to follow here in the 'Peg.) Hopefully I can get one of the three main hobby stores in town to price match. One can always try.
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Yes, and with a so many topics coming up, I can't tell which applies to the 21. Most seem to be about the Savage X, etc. I'd like to know which is compatible with my old model.
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Search. This topic pops up just about daily here.
Search. This topic pops up just about daily here.
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Having a new thread pays off!
Thanks. I see I can get this Axial 28 S1 for $149 CDN. I'm hoping to get the new engine soon (I'm moving soon, have a freelance project coming up, and winter is soon to follow here in the 'Peg.) Hopefully I can get one of the three main hobby stores in town to price match. One can always try.
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Hey KNIGHTFALL, have you checked out great hobbies? They have a store in Edmonton and one in PEI I think and they have a decent engine selection. No sure fires or sts's or whatever but I ordered an Axial .28 spec one and a .28rr from them and numerous other parts. They have awesome service and you dont have to pay duty like you would if you ordered it from the states. Check em out if you already havent http://www.greathobbies.com/rccars-trucks/
http://www.greathobbies.com/search/r...srchvendor=AXL
Hey KNIGHTFALL, have you checked out great hobbies? They have a store in Edmonton and one in PEI I think and they have a decent engine selection. No sure fires or sts's or whatever but I ordered an Axial .28 spec one and a .28rr from them and numerous other parts. They have awesome service and you dont have to pay duty like you would if you ordered it from the states. Check em out if you already havent http://www.greathobbies.com/rccars-trucks/
http://www.greathobbies.com/search/r...srchvendor=AXL
Thanks. I see I can get this Axial 28 S1 for $149 CDN. I'm hoping to get the new engine soon (I'm moving soon, have a freelance project coming up, and winter is soon to follow here in the 'Peg.) Hopefully I can get one of the three main hobby stores in town to price match. One can always try.
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RE: Need a new engine for the Savage 21 - Opinions
eBay is where I got the truck in the first place. But as I said in my previous post, I'm a little on the anxious side to get the engine. eBay could very well take up to three weeks, in which time, I'm moving and a freelance project will be getting in gear in mid October. I didn't count on my fun time here with this Savage to end so soon. haha
Thanks for clarifying what fits with what. I'll be sure to utilize the search feature a little more.
Thanks for clarifying what fits with what. I'll be sure to utilize the search feature a little more.
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STS 28 or 30.
http://www.stsmicroengines.com/index...42410e86e83fbe
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STS 28 or 30.
http://www.stsmicroengines.com/index...42410e86e83fbe
http://www.stsmicroengines.com/index...=index&cPath=2
Otherwise, the STS is a serious powerhouse!
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I can say that Great Hobbies is going to be cheaper in the end if your getting an axial than e bay. The shipping and the duty you pay will bring the price way up over 149.00$ CDN, check it out.
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I would go with the Axial 28 RR!! Your fun doesnt have to end waterproof that Savy and run it through the snow it will be easy to find in the snow with the pink body!!!...lol...
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Stop in at Eliminator-rc They have the best prices and The largest stock in Manitoba I have ever seen
And Good to deal with
By the way Support your local hobby store look at the rc complex the people at eliminator set up for winnipeg They GIVE BACK TO THE HOBBY
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And Good to deal with
By the way Support your local hobby store look at the rc complex the people at eliminator set up for winnipeg They GIVE BACK TO THE HOBBY
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Stop in at Eliminator-rc They have the best prices and The largest stock in Manitoba I have ever seen
And Good to deal with
By the way Support your local hobby store look at the rc complex the people at eliminator set up for winnipeg They GIVE BACK TO THE HOBBY
.
Stop in at Eliminator-rc They have the best prices and The largest stock in Manitoba I have ever seen
And Good to deal with
By the way Support your local hobby store look at the rc complex the people at eliminator set up for winnipeg They GIVE BACK TO THE HOBBY
.
Project RC (local) has a HPI 4.1 motor from a Savage X for $120. He claims the 4.1 is double the power of the .21. Is this true? How much more power is the two engine I just mentioned? This question is for anyone reading.
supertib - I think until I gain experience with these things, I will go with brand new so I learn the break in period, tuning, etc. Thanks though.
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The *** big block carbs have been known to let massive air leaks around the LSN area. If you experience this, try teflon tape on the LSN threads.
The *** big block carbs have been known to let massive air leaks around the LSN area. If you experience this, try teflon tape on the LSN threads.
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No worries. I called there this afternoon. They have an Axial 32 and a XTM 28 that I'm eyeballing.
Project RC (local) has a HPI 4.1 motor from a Savage X for $120. He claims the 4.1 is double the power of the .21. Is this true? How much more power is the two engine I just mentioned? This question is for anyone reading.
supertib - I think until I gain experience with these things, I will go with brand new so I learn the break in period, tuning, etc. Thanks though.
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Stop in at Eliminator-rc They have the best prices and The largest stock in Manitoba I have ever seen
And Good to deal with
By the way Support your local hobby store look at the rc complex the people at eliminator set up for winnipeg They GIVE BACK TO THE HOBBY
.
Stop in at Eliminator-rc They have the best prices and The largest stock in Manitoba I have ever seen
And Good to deal with
By the way Support your local hobby store look at the rc complex the people at eliminator set up for winnipeg They GIVE BACK TO THE HOBBY
.
Project RC (local) has a HPI 4.1 motor from a Savage X for $120. He claims the 4.1 is double the power of the .21. Is this true? How much more power is the two engine I just mentioned? This question is for anyone reading.
supertib - I think until I gain experience with these things, I will go with brand new so I learn the break in period, tuning, etc. Thanks though.
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HUH? That's some poor machining/metal quality if you have to seal the needle treads with Teflon. Just my opinion.
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The *** big block carbs have been known to let massive air leaks around the LSN area. If you experience this, try teflon tape on the LSN threads.
The *** big block carbs have been known to let massive air leaks around the LSN area. If you experience this, try teflon tape on the LSN threads.
Right now IMHO SH engines likely builds the best overall Taiwanese engines... The LRP Spec 3 and new Sh 28 P8 being the crown jewell of the collection... Pretty much bombproof engines all around, they have their tolerances and production pretty dialed in these days....