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Old 12-27-2007, 02:16 AM
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Default Lamberto Collari 30

ive got this engine here. i bought it used, from someone that said there was only 20 minutes of use on it. i guess he was trying to tune it or something. im not sure. so now im trying to tune it. could someone please tell me what screw is the high idle, and low idle?



Old 12-27-2007, 02:21 AM
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i tihnk this might help....lol....
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Old 12-27-2007, 02:29 AM
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im guessing ur new to the RC world since ur asking about the needles but im give u a little advise i know from first hand PERSONALLY that motor u have is probably the harest tuening motor on the market....... i spent bout 30 minuets chaseing that perfect tune on my friends savage with a collari

if ur new and just starting out try to get someone to help you out.........dont let them do it for u try to learn so later on u can tune it also it needs contant tuneing....my strongest peice of advise to you is buy the CARB for the OS 30 VG and slap it on ur collari my friend did it i helped him tune after and it ran great he barely touches his needles now only slight changes every so often


those collari 30 are BAD ASS motors they run great but are a real REAL pain in the butt to tune!!!
Old 12-27-2007, 02:49 AM
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I agree about tuning the Collaris
Old 12-27-2007, 03:16 AM
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im guessing ur new to the RC world since ur asking about the needles
yeah you are right, i really dont have a clue about this stuff. but it seems awsome and plan on one day racing them. but for now i really just want it to say i have one. and take it out and run it.

thanks, nitrorc, for the pic. that really helps me.

as far as the carb, it has SIRIO on it. are those any good?

so much to learn[sm=confused.gif]


also, i need a new exhaust header for this thing. its probably hard to tell in the pic, but the exhaust port is pretty close to the starting box. is there a way i can customize a header out of like a peice of steel tubing or conduit so that it doesnt puke oil the back of the motor?

Old 12-27-2007, 09:31 AM
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that's how all exhaust ports are on these motors, you need a header for a savage, (don't run it without exhaust) and then slap your pipe of choice onto it. the header will be held on via a long spring that'll hook side to side btw.
Old 12-27-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default RE: Lamberto Collari 30

with the siro carb ur goig to be on the same boat as the collari carb they both suck...........i know the OS carb is a little pricey but it really worth the money.........


also if ur looking into pipes.........look into the RD logics or THS pipe ive tryed both they both work really well
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I owned that motor when they first hit the market. My advice, get rid of it! It will cause you nothing but headaches. It eats one way bearings for breakfast and melts rotostart housings from the piss poor exhaust design. Parts are unavailable unless you can find something on eBay. Biggest piece of junk motor ever built. Yes it is powerful and is a beast when it is tuned but that 5 minutes goes by quick. Unload it or turn it into a paperweight. [link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXNZW1&P=ML]Get yourself this motor[/link] It's a little expensive but comes with a no questions asked 2 year warranty. It holds a tune great and has tons of power.
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Default RE: Lamberto Collari 30

O.S. .30 has the ABL liner that will wear out in 3 gallons approx. I've seen them run locally and they are turds IMO[&:] Barely an upgrade over the old S-25 engines...
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Default RE: Lamberto Collari 30

I can second that the Collari will burn up a one way bearing in 1 run...and melt the rotostart completely out of the backplate.
Mine never had a problem holding a tune...but it never ran for long ,and still needs a one way bearing.
Anyone wanna buy it ? .32 about 1 gallon through it.
make an offer will take trades......

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O.S. .30 has the ABL liner that will wear out in 3 gallons approx. I've seen them run locally and they are turds IMO[&:] Barely an upgrade over the old S-25 engines...
I think not. I have two and one has 5 gallons through it. As far as performance, I don't know who or what you witnessed but they will decimate an S-25. Find me a negative thread in this forum about the O.S. I've never read any posts from "actual owners" complaining about premature wear or poor performance. Do you think the manufacturer would provide a 2 year warranty if it had substandard componants? If you've never owned one don't make misleading statements about it.
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You are right that I havent owned one, but I have seen 2 run in my area and wasnt impressed at all. I would say an Axial .28 would be able to compete with it... As for negative comments on the .30, there are a decent amount to go around. Some people have had good luck with the engine but to each their own. I personally would keep the Collari, they are high quality engines that should provide good performance...
Old 12-27-2007, 11:05 PM
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Anyone wanna buy it ? .32 about 1 gallon through it.
make an offer will take trades......

CS
Lol, I'll trade you my Collari .32 for your Collari .32!

I pulled it out of my Savage because the one way bearing was slipping, and because I couldnt find parts for it. It sure ran like a champ though, very powerful engine.
Old 12-28-2007, 02:03 AM
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Default RE: Lamberto Collari 30

ok to all who mentioned the one way bearing, what is it and where is at? im assuming it is in the clutch area? i will have to inspect it to make sure its ok.
Old 12-28-2007, 04:11 AM
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Default RE: Lamberto Collari 30

It is located in the rotostart. It is what allows you to turn the engine over, but it disengages once the engine is turning faster than the starter shaft.
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It is located in the rotostart. It is what allows you to turn the engine over, but it disengages once the engine is turning faster than the starter shaft.

oh ok thanks.
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Default RE: Lamberto Collari 30

there is no fix that im aware of ..no matter how clean or oiled or whatever you keep the bearing ..it will not last for more then a 1/2 gallon,and at $40.00 each=paperweight.
but
gl with yours they are serious powerhouses.
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Old 01-02-2008, 12:31 AM
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Default RE: Lamberto Collari 30

http://i20.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/cf/72/e92b_1.JPG

is this the one way bearing you are all talking about?
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Default RE: Lamberto Collari 30

Its either a 6mm or an 8 mm bearing ID.
Cant remember ,and the pic you posted dont say...most OWB look the same unless you know size.
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well im pretty sure the one way bearing on this is shot. i can pull the cord and it retracts fine, but there is just no compression, at all. like the piston or nothing moves. does this sound like the OWB to you?
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Default RE: Lamberto Collari 30

If you pull the string while holding the truck vertically (the nose up in the air) does it begin to grab? If so, yes, that your one way bearing giving you trouble. Mine does this. A trick is to put some fuel or Wd40 down the carb by removing the air filter. Not alot, but it helps clean it out. I do it and it grabs right away and starts right up.
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Those owb's are kind of expensive. I had the motor and traded it for a mlst. The oneway bearing is inside the engine. It is behind the backplate. You will need to take off the pullstart and the backplate to get to it. Also when you change the owb, when starting the engine you don't flood the engine cause the pullcord will snap without much force. They are about $50 for a pullstart. If The pullstart breaks then I would buy a [link=http://cgi.ebay.com/LC32-150000-Rotostart-Conversion-for-Collari-30_W0QQitemZ280111715031QQihZ018QQcategoryZ34063QQ rdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638. m118]roto-start backplate[/link]. As for the header you might want to buy [link=http://cgi.ebay.com/Werks-Savage-Collari-30-32-Tuned-Pipe-and-Header-32_W0QQitemZ280096401017QQihZ018QQcategoryZ34063QQ rdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638. m118]a performance collari pipe[/link] because it is made for that specific engine. Oh and most important is the[link=http://www.carttonic.com/catalog/index.php?file=catalog&action=catalog_productinfo&uid=466&pi_id=133639&clist=0,9835,11305]collari OWB.[/link] If yo have any other questions about the engine pm me.
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ORIGINAL: NitroVenom

Those owb's are kind of expensive. I had the motor and traded it for a mlst. The oneway bearing is inside the engine. It is behind the backplate. You will need to take off the pullstart and the backplate to get to it. Also when you change the owb, when starting the engine you don't flood the engine cause the pullcord will snap without much force. They are about $50 for a pullstart. If The pullstart breaks then I would buy a [link=http://cgi.ebay.com/LC32-150000-Rotostart-Conversion-for-Collari-30_W0QQitemZ280111715031QQihZ018QQcategoryZ34063QQ rdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638. m118]roto-start backplate[/link]. As for the header you might want to buy [link=http://cgi.ebay.com/Werks-Savage-Collari-30-32-Tuned-Pipe-and-Header-32_W0QQitemZ280096401017QQihZ018QQcategoryZ34063QQ rdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638. m118]a performance collari pipe[/link] because it is made for that specific engine. Oh and most important is the[link=http://www.carttonic.com/catalog/index.php?file=catalog&action=catalog_productinfo&uid=466&pi_id=133639&clist=0,9835,11305]collari OWB.[/link] If yo have any other questions about the engine pm me.
I have the .32 the OWB is outside....like the hpi stuff.
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