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stimpytheman 10-10-2012 08:11 AM

Another newbie question..savage x4.6.. When putting clutch bell on will u see a little clutch pad
 
<div style="text-align: left; ">Hello again another newbie question when putting the clutch bell back on a savage x4.6 will u see a very little bit of the clutch pads at all? I noticed when I put it back on the clutch pads are slightly visible and I just wanted to make sure this is ok, thanks in advance</div>

AIRSAVAGE 10-10-2012 05:00 PM

RE: Another newbie question..savage x4.6.. When putting clutch bell on will u see a little clutch pad
 
Hey, I think all you should see is the fly wheel (silver). I just looked at mine and I don't see the black clutch shoes at all. Make sure the bearing that goes inside the clutch bell gets pushed all the way in.

stimpytheman 10-10-2012 05:37 PM

RE: Another newbie question..savage x4.6.. When putting clutch bell on will u see a little clutch pad
 
hey thanks for the reply, it seems that the bearings are all the way in but still see just a VERY small amount of the clutch pads...not sure what else to do, or if it even matters...what do you think?

stimpytheman 10-10-2012 06:21 PM

RE: Another newbie question..savage x4.6.. When putting clutch bell on will u see a little clutch pad
 
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here are some pics of the clutch bell setup so you can see, the clutch bell actually slips up and down a tiny tiny bit on the end of the crank will the flywheel and all attach...

Bash-m-up 10-11-2012 12:23 AM

RE: Another newbie question..savage x4.6.. When putting clutch bell on will u see a little clutch pad
 
The bushing on the end (the one on right after the screw) does it show any signs of wear? I do know these can wear and allow some fore and aft play like what you're experiencing. Check it out and let us know, you don't want that much play in your CB, it will just play havoc on your spur gear.

AIRSAVAGE 10-11-2012 05:35 PM

RE: Another newbie question..savage x4.6.. When putting clutch bell on will u see a little clutch pad
 
Is the flywheel tight on the collet? You should be able to hold the flywheel and tighten the black nut down on it. I had an issue with my Savage x when I first got it. The collet welded itself into the flywheel so it wasn't able to grip the shaft. everything shifted forward and the clutch springs got shreaded.

JohnP2 10-12-2012 07:38 AM

RE: Another newbie question..savage x4.6.. When putting clutch bell on will u see a little clutch pad
 
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While you should have a little play (about 1mm) on the clutch bell, it seems like you either have too much play, or there is an obstruction. If you have greater than 1mm of play, did you put the shims back on in the same order? I've yet to take my clutch bell off on my Savage X 4.6, but assume there are multiple shims in it.

If the play is at about 1mm, then I would check the collet. Did you take the flywheel off too?

If it helps, I attached a picture of the stock setting. Mine only has five tanks in it...so it's still very new. You can see the shoes are no visible. This is with the clutch bell pushed out toward the front as far as it will go.

Have you tried running it? If so, is there a difference in performance? Thanks

BChiz 10-13-2012 03:02 PM

RE: Another newbie question..savage x4.6.. When putting clutch bell on will u see a little clutch pad
 
You probably need to put more shims on the outside before you put your screw in the end of the shaft. You have too much play there.

SLAYERDUDE 10-13-2012 07:52 PM

RE: Another newbie question..savage x4.6.. When putting clutch bell on will u see a little clutch pad
 
The shoes should not be visible, the CB needs to be shimmed towards the flywheel.
You will get a lip on the shoes that should not be there otherwise.

stimpytheman 10-13-2012 09:06 PM

RE: Another newbie question..savage x4.6.. When putting clutch bell on will u see a little clutch pad
 
<span style="white-space:pre"> </span>BASH ME UP- THANKS FOR THE REPLY, NOPE....IT SHOWS NO WEAR, AND JUST FOR THE HECK OF IT I REPLACED IT WHEN I REPLACED THE BEARINGS AND THE CLUTCH BELL WITH A VENTED ONE.<div>
<div>AIRSAVAGE- I'M NOT SURE IF THE FLYWHEEL IS WELDED TO THE COLLET CAUSE I HAVENT ACTUALLY TAKEN THE FLYWHEEL OFF YET BECAUSE I JUST PUT THE NEW CLUTCH SHOES ON AND IT WAS A PAIN IN THE ARSS...LOL, BUT I MAY JUST DO IT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD, WHAT IS THE EASIEST WAY TO GET IT OFF??</div><div>
</div><div>JOHN P2-YEP, EVERYTHING WENT BACK ON LIKE I TOOK IT OFF...AND YEAH, I DID RUN IT AND IT DOESNT SEEM TO HURT THE PERFORMANCE...</div><div>
</div><div>BCHIZ-I'LL TRY THAT AND SEE IF IT HELPS WITH THE MOVING BACK AND FORTH ON THE SHAFT</div><div>
</div><div>SLAYERDUDE-HOW WOULD I SHIM SOMETHING BACKWARDS?? NOT SURE HOW TO GET IT FARTHER BACK ON THE SHAFT...</div><div>
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SLAYERDUDE 10-14-2012 09:12 PM

RE: Another newbie question..savage x4.6.. When putting clutch bell on will u see a little clutch pad
 
If there is a spacer behind the clutch nut between the flywheel and nut, remove it, if there's any spacers between the nut and inner bearing of the CB, remove them.

AIRSAVAGE 10-16-2012 04:49 PM

RE: Another newbie question..savage x4.6.. When putting clutch bell on will u see a little clutch pad
 
If you're able to spin the fly wheel freely then something ain't right. (fly wheel stuck to the collet) So far, this really doesn't sound like your problem.

PrjctStrtFrce 10-21-2012 08:42 PM

RE: Another newbie question..savage x4.6.. When putting clutch bell on will u see a little clutch pad
 
There should be a little play in the clutch bell, as you are noticing. As for the shoes being exposed, try a shim kit and space it so that the entire shoe touches the bell.

I'm surprised no one has stated for you to upgrade to a vented bell and aluminum shoes...3-shoe aluminum kit from the XL on ebay is really cheap, along with the vented bell.


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