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humming bird vs aerohawk - 1/22/2004 5:50:57 PM   
ny102



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Status: offline 		which one of this heli is the best????? quality??? upgrade part?? 3d capable??value for money??

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RE: humming bird vs aerohawk - 1/22/2004 7:46:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		as of now, i dont believe you can get collective pitch for hummingbird- so 3D is out, however they are making a cp hummingbird soon. i dont know about the aerohawks situation for cp

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RE: humming bird vs aerohawk - 1/22/2004 8:12:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		At the AMA convention a few weeks ago I talked to the Century rep, acording to him the colective pitch head for the humming bird (actually it will be a whole new frame, not just a new head) will be out in a few months. If I remember right I think the exact month was May, but I could be wrong. Also, the Century Website list the helio as "Comming Soon".

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RE: humming bird vs aerohawk - 1/23/2004 4:55:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Did u make that head (one in the photo)

or, where did u get that conversion?----------what parts do I need I have the stock HB v.2 with JR Radio system.

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RE: humming bird vs aerohawk - 1/23/2004 5:09:18 PM   
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I have a dragonfly(pretty much a copy hummingbird). The reason why I bought the dragonfly was that it shares alot of upgrade and oem parts as the hummingbird. At helihobby,

http://www.helihobby.com/html/hummingbird_upgrades.html

you can get a collective upgrade for doing 3d.
It is not the traditional collective mixing you see on larger birds, but its the ccpm. You'll NEED a heli radio capable of cyclic mixing.

Don't want to discourage you, but a heli radio with these capabilities will easily cost > $200, and the ccpm head is about 200 bucks.....wheew, minus well get a nitro CP heli!

I've not flown or seen the aerohawk in person, so I cannot comment on flyabilityand stability.
I can say that I have not seen a CP upgrade for the aerohawk.

My dragonfly flies well and I have not burnt any of the motors yet...I'm way over 20 flights on nimh.
Alot of people here have had motor problems and lift problems, but they may have an overweight heli or unbalanced untracked blades.

Hope this helps...either way you go, it'll be fun!

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RE: humming bird vs aerohawk - 1/24/2004 5:54:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nope, the head is from Century Helicopters, it's not due out for a few months yet. Keep an eye on their website, and on rcuniverse, I'm sure when it is out eveyone intrested in it will know about it. As for the radio requirements, I have no idea. I'm just getting into helis myself (been flying fixed wing for over 12 years), but I'm sure all that will be covered in the release too.


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RE: humming bird vs aerohawk - 1/24/2004 1:17:36 PM   
ny102



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Status: offline 		i've read at other forum said the best micro heli is aerohawk.. i'm getting confuse to choose which one.

http://www.rotory.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=MINI1&Number=22667&page=0&view=expanded&sb=7&o=&fpart=1

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RE: humming bird vs aerohawk - 1/24/2004 6:10:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm going to upgrade my Aero Hawk with the Hornet CP upgrade avalileble at www.hobby-lobby.com
And it's just the same as the head on helihobby but the hornet head is made from plastic and from helihobby from steal ore something
the hornet CP head is just $85!!

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RE: humming bird vs aerohawk - 1/24/2004 7:06:51 PM   
ny102



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Status: offline 		is it fit????let us know how it perform...

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RE: humming bird vs aerohawk - 1/25/2004 12:36:21 AM   
r_elliott


 

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ORIGINAL: gordongoly

I'm going to upgrade my Aero Hawk with the Hornet CP upgrade avalileble at www.hobby-lobby.com
And it's just the same as the head on helihobby but the hornet head is made from plastic and from helihobby from steal ore something


Please report back on the upgrade. Also pictures would help

Robert Elliott

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RE: humming bird vs aerohawk - 1/25/2004 2:51:49 AM   
randii


 

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ORIGINAL: ny102
is it fit????let us know how it perform...

What's to fit? Both have 3mm rotor masts and interchangeable control balls. IMHO, upgrading the Aerohawk to the collective head would be VERY similar to upgrading the Hornet... which is not exactly simple in and of itself: http://rcgroups.com/links/index.php?sid=498277416&t=article&cat=198&id=4071

HobbyLobby does have a great price - $85: http://www.hobby-lobby.com/hornet-accessories.htm#Collective
Wish they had a setup that didn't require a 120-degree CCPM setup...

Here's a really great article that discusses the various ways of varying pitch, as well as the differences between 90- and 120-degree setups.
http://www.iroquois.free-online.co.uk/ccpm.htm
(I have seen this excellent article published a few places on the web without attribution -- wish I knew who wrote it!)

Randii

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RE: humming bird vs aerohawk - 1/25/2004 11:48:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I buy the Hornet CP head later, first I need to buy the Hitec Eclipse 7 channel transmitter cause you can't fly the Hornet CP head with the simple 4 channel transmitter that was include with the Aero Hawk package. I'm just 14 and with the money I get with my birthday I can buy the TX (15 march)
I let you know when I have the head

Gordon

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RE: humming bird vs aerohawk - 1/25/2004 12:55:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: gordongoly

I'm going to upgrade my Aero Hawk with the Hornet CP upgrade avalileble at www.hobby-lobby.com
And it's just the same as the head on helihobby but the hornet head is made from plastic and from helihobby from steal ore something
the hornet CP head is just $85!!


dont do it with your aerohawk frame you will not have enough torque to get the bird off the ground and you will burn out the motor.
I have tried and it dosent work!! ..I ended up getting a hornet frame and main gear as well and built a hornet with a DD tail ...that works great!!

but dont try and upgrade the aerohawk the gear ratio isnt there for CP..even with a brushless motor.

tele



here is pic of the hornet with DD tail and with the set of home made blades that I made...they give me better times with only two cells ( about 12min) compared to 9 min with the origional ones.
cheers

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RE: humming bird vs aerohawk - 1/25/2004 6:30:59 PM   
randii


 

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ORIGINAL: telemark07
dont do it with your aerohawk frame you will not have enough torque to get the bird off the ground and you will burn out the motor.
I have tried and it dosent work!! ...but dont try and upgrade the aerohawk the gear ratio isnt there for CP..even with a brushless motor.

Did you try changing the gear ratio on the Aerohawk? The big gear is a tight fit in the 'Hawk's frame, but there's a lot of adustment available on the pinion... other than that, these 'birds have similar torque characteristics, and you can always swap motors if you hanker for more/different power.

Randii

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RE: humming bird vs aerohawk - 1/26/2004 6:09:21 AM   
gordongoly



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Status: offline 		I have a Acro280bb motor and a 2 cell 1200 lithium pack, and I know you can upgrade the hummginbird with the