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    APP CRASH ..?

    Hi all, having probs installing afpd......... keep getting appcrash and vista closes the program...

    ive had afpd for over a year now and have never had probs with it before, ive had it running on vista before with x2 nvidia 8800gt sli, the only thing i have changed is now im running x2 ati 4870 crossfire which leads me to believe this is the problem but just cant work out why ?
    i have latest 8.8 ccc drivers and of course open gl is enabled.

    ive installed afpd and cannot go no further with patches and addons, i have cleaned all ipacs related registry files and tried time again and same probs every time...APPCRASH

    any ideas anyone ?? I NEED MY AFPD !! [sm=cry_smile.gif][sm=cry_smile.gif][sm=drowning.gif]
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    RE: APP CRASH ..?

    Hi nick,

    1) Tell me exactly what kind of hardware you have, especially 3D graphics card, CPU, and any other hardware installed, sound card etc.
    2) What is the RAM size?
    3) Which operating system are you using, XP or Vista? 32 bit or 64 bit?
    4) Tell me exactly what drivers you installed for the 3D graphics card.
    5) Which addons do you have?
    6) What is the version number printed on your main AFPD disk?
    7) How did you install the main disk, addons, and patch (which version?), and what was the sequence of installation?
    8) Post your tm.log file which you can find in the following directory

    C:\Program Files\IPACS\AeroFly Professional Deluxe

    You may open the file with a text editor like word or notepad. Just copy and paste the entire content into your post.
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    RE: APP CRASH ..?

    hi rajul,

    1: x2 gigabyte ati 4870 graphics cards crossfire enabled, intel core2duo e8500, on board 7.1 sound. gigabyte x48 chipset

    2: ram = 2 gig, ddr2 800 pc6400

    3: 32 bit vista

    4: latest amd 8.8 ccc drivers

    5: addon 1

    6: 1.8.0.17

    7: main disk installed to P drive, not C (os installed)

    8: tm log :

    tm: Library Version 4.1, Copyright (C) 1999-2004, IPACS
    tm: http://www.ipacs.de
    tmsystem: init random with 1726664605
    tmsystem: cpu type=(nlogical=1) (nphysical=2) (no hyper-threading)
    tmsystem: cpu=3800 Mhz
    tmsystem: memory=(physical=2045MB, avail=1340MB) (virtual=2047MB, avail=1845MB)
    tmsystem: operating system=Version 6.0 Service Pack 1 (Build 6001) Service Pack: Service Pack 1 (Build 6001)
    tmgl: loading font v2 texture/arial10.tmf=(256x256) (32x255) ok
    tmgl: loading mouse texture/mouse.tmt=ok
    tmprogram: AeroFly Professional Deluxe Version 1.8.0.17, Copyright © 1998-2005 IPACS
    loading configfile config/main.mcf=ok
    loading player configfile config/player1.mcf=ok
    loading player configfile config/player2.mcf=ok
    directsound: register sound sound/beep.wav=ok
    directsound: register sound sound/balloon.wav=ok
    directsound: register sound sound/crash.wav=ok
    directsound: register sound sound/splash.wav=ok
    directsound: register sound sound/glider.wav=ok
    directsound: register sound sound/glider2.wav=ok
    afdesign: init ok
    tmgl: loading font v2 texture/menufont.tmf=(512x512) (32x255) ok
    directinput: init=ok
    tmsystem: current monitor frequency=75
    init window=(window=800x600) (screen=1280x1024) (32bpp) (75Hz) (window)
    directsound: init=(speakerconfig=unknown) (cont.rate) (primary 16bit) (samplerates 100,200000) (1 hwbuffers) (0 hwbytes)
    init pixelformat=ok
    gl: vendor=ATI Technologies Inc., renderer=ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series, version=2.1.7873 Release
    gl: (viewport=8192x8192) (texturesize=8192) (stencil=8)
    gl: extensions=GL_AMDX_vertex_shader_tessellator GL_AMD_performance_monitor GL_ARB_color_buffer_float GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_shadow_ambient GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_float GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_window_pos GL_ATI_draw_buffers GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap GL_ATI_fragment_shader GL_ATI_meminfo GL_ATI_separate_stencil GL_ATI_shader_texture_lod GL_ATI_texture_compression_3dc GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATI_texture_float GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_copy_texture GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample GL_EXT_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil GL_EXT_packed_float GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_subtexture GL_EXT_texgen_reflection GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_cube_map GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_EXT_texture_sRGB GL_EXT_texture_shared_exponent GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_WIN_swap_hint WGL_EXT_swap_control
    wgl: extensions=WGL_ARB_extensions_string WGL_ARB_pixel_format WGL_ATI_pixel_format_float WGL_ARB_pixel_format_float WGL_ARB_multisample WGL_EXT_swap_control WGL_ARB_pbuffer WGL_ARB_render_texture WGL_ARB_make_current_read WGL_EXT_extensions_string WGL_ARB_buffer_region WGL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB WGL_ATI_render_texture_rectangle WGL_EXT_pixel_format_packed_float
    gl: extensions=(lockarrays) (multitexture) (pointparameter) (vertexbufferobject) (separate color) (anisotropic filter of 16.00) (compressed texture) (cubemaps)
    wgl: extensions=(wglpixelformat) (wglrendertexture) (swapcontrol)
    gl: reducing max texture size from 8192 to 2048
    tmsystem: fullscreen modes=(640x480x16x59) (640x480x16x73) (rj-720x480x16x60) (rj-720x480x16x60) (rj-720x480x16x75) (rj-720x480x16x75) (rj-720x480x32x60) (rj-720x480x32x60) (rj-720x480x32x75) (rj-720x480x32x75) (rj-720x576x16x60) (rj-720x576x16x60) (rj-720x576x16x75) (rj-720x576x16x75) (rj-720x576x32x60) (rj-720x576x32x60) (rj-720x576x32x75) (rj-720x576x32x75) (800x600x16x56) (800x600x16x70) (800x600x16x75) (rj-848x480x16x60) (rj-848x480x16x60) (rj-848x480x16x75) (rj-848x480x16x75) (rj-848x480x32x60) (rj-848x480x32x60) (rj-848x480x32x75) (rj-848x480x32x75) (1024x768x16x60) (1024x768x16x70) (1024x768x16x75) (1152x864x16x60) (1152x864x16x70) (1152x864x16x75) (1280x720x16x60) (1280x720x16x75) (1280x768x16x60) (1280x768x16x75) (1280x800x16x60) (1280x800x16x75) (1280x960x16x60) (1280x960x16x70) (1280x960x16x75) (1280x1024x16x60) (1280x1024x16x70) (1280x1024x16x75) (1360x768x16x60) (rj-1360x1024x16x60) (rj-1360x1024x16x60) (rj-1360x1024x32x60) (rj-1360x1024x32x60) (1440x900x16x60) (1680x1050x16x60)
    directinput: searching joysticks=none
    tminput: searching for input devices...(1)
    tmsystem: searching usb interface (0) 0=unable to open interface device
    tmsystem: searching usb interface (1) 0=unable to open interface device
    tmsystem: searching usb interface (0) 0=unable to open joystick device
    tmsystem: searching usb interface (1) 0=unable to open joystick device
    tminput: 0 devices found
    tminput: searching for input devices...(2)
    tminput: 0 devices found
    tmgl: loading font v2 texture/arial20b.tmf=(256x256) (32x255) ok
    sim: loading scenery scenery/winzeln.geo...
    sim: 1 objects 0 dynobjects
    sim: start position 1 (not for helicopter)
    sim: start position 2 (not for helicopter)
    sim: start position 3 (not for helicopter)
    sim: start position 4 (not for airplanes)
    sim: load texture grid 5x5 (compress=1) named winzeln/winzeln=(5x5) (24x13) (72.00 36.00) (3.00 3.00)
    sim: sphere params=-1.5000 0.0000 -0.7000
    sim: loading ground object scenery/winzeln/winzeln.obj=ok
    sim: loading time=27908 mus
    tmcollision: 1604 triangles using 70576 bytes
    tmcollision: omin=(-5000.0,-5000.0,-2.1) omax=(5000.0,5000.0,59.6)
    tmcollision: octmin=(400.0,400.0,400.0)
    tmcollision: otnodes=37 otdepth=11
    tmcollision: otnmaxareas=838 otnavgareas=48 otnminsize=(312.500,312.500,61.746)
    tmcollision: otareas=1803 mem=100968
    tmcollision: otclppl=5608 mem=179456
    tmcollision: 37 octrees, using 9620 bytes
    tmcollision: total mem=360620 bytes
    tmcollision: time=5417mus
    tmcolldynamic: no dynamic objects or triangles
    sim: loading aircraft 1 christeneagle...
    tmdairfoil: loading naca0015 ok
    tmdairfoil: loading flat ok
    tmdairfoil: loading naca0009 ok
    directsound: register sound sound/g15-3000.wav=ok
    directsound: register sound sound/g15-5000.wav=ok
    directsound: register sound sound/g15-10000.wav=ok
    generating shadow christeneagleshadow0=radius=2.13 bbmin=(-1.28 -1.28 -0.46) bbmax=(1.28 1.28 0.27)
    sim: creating blurr=Propeller




    thank you for your time and help rajul [sm=thumbup.gif]
    Nick Claydon
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    RE: APP CRASH ..?

    Have you installed addon1?
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    RE: APP CRASH ..?

    yeah still no go bud
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    RE: APP CRASH ..?

    Nick, pls install patch 1.9.7.11 http://www.ipacs.de/download/afpd190711.exe

    Also pls check the following:

    -It may be a problem with the graphic card driver. Update your driver and see if the problem goes away. You also need to ensure that your graphics card hardware acceleration is at maximum.
    -It could also be an overheating problem in the computer or card incompatibilities. Ensure your computer is properly vented.
    -The problem may also be the sound card driver. Update your driver and see if the problem goes away.
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    RE: APP CRASH ..?

    hi rajul, ive tried all patches in different sequences and still no go, my drivers are the latest although i may try previos version 8.7 , as stated im running two graphics cards (crossfire) cant get more accelerated than that, computer is water cooled with x2 240 mm case fans system temp is 22c and envioroment temp is 25c, no problems there and sound drivers are latest from realtek.

    just cant work it out, tough one eh...

    may disable the second graphics card and try that, could be a compatabillty problem with crossfire ?? although it ran fine when i had x2 nvidia cards running sli
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    RE: APP CRASH ..?

    Hi nick, you must install in the correct sequence i.e. main disk....addon....patch If you had installed diffenrent patches in different sequences, then I'm afraid you will have to unisntall and reinstall. The uninstallation instructions are at the bottom of this page http://www.aerofly.com/www/downloads.html
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    RE: APP CRASH ..?

    yeah have done all in the right config, sorry i must have mislead you with " all different sequences" what i meant is ive tried installing just the disk and get appcrash, so ive then installed addon 1 and still appcrash so i then installed 1.9.7.11 and still get appcrash then ive even tried the latest patch and still the same thing, ive uninstalled, rebooted cleaned registry etc etc and tried fresh and still same thing.
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    RE: APP CRASH ..?

    Did you delete the AFPD folder before reinstalling as per the instructions? I have to check on your card compatibility and get back to you later.
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    RE: APP CRASH ..?

    yeeah, deleted

    heres the problem signiture :

    Problem signature:
    Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
    Application Name: afprod.exe
    Application Version: 1.9.1.3
    Application Timestamp: 4369e61a
    Fault Module Name: atioglxx.dll
    Fault Module Version: 6.14.10.7873
    Fault Module Timestamp: 48928ccf
    Exception Code: c0000005
    Exception Offset: 0045a8ff
    OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3
    Locale ID: 2057
    Additional Information 1: 0013
    Additional Information 2: 07b6031c49ca47ee4fbb2f598904e37b
    Additional Information 3: 7760
    Additional Information 4: 65bade897d62607363919e951d8431c2

    as u properbly noticed:

    "Fault Module Name: atioglxx.dll"

    looks to me like possibly compat. issues with ati crossfire ?

    im gonna disable my second card , if that doesnt work ill do a reinstall of card driver

    ill let u know how it goes .....
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    RE: APP CRASH ..?

    sorted !!

    afpd doesnt like the latest ati drivers 8.8

    i installed 8.7 version and hey presto, patched to 1.11.7.19 and its running sweet hitting between 500-1100 fps

    many thx for your time rajul !!

    hope this helps someone else ?
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    RE: APP CRASH ..?

    Nick, good job!
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