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Old 04-20-2010, 12:31 PM
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HI WHAT is the best airframe and engine combo (include prop used and brand ) in the 60-90 size ( smaller size ) airframe that can do the aerobatics required for IMAC flying i am searching for the best performing airframe in the smaller 72 inchish size ENJOY BEST REGARDS TONY
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Tony - Take a look at the OMP 67" Fusion. With a 90 2-stroke (14x4 APC) or 120 4-stroke (16x4 APC) it's a plane that's hard to beat on either the precision or 3d end of the flying spektrum. Just set your CG up according to your tastes. Hard to beat in that size.
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HEY JOHN can you tell me were i might find the plane aboveto look at ENJOY TONY
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you can find omp planes here ohiomodelplanes.com
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Tony,
JM beat me to the answer ... check them out and call or e-mail them. They are prompt to answer your questions.
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Geeze, your kidding right? Your steering this man to a 60-90 sized "Profile" plane for the "Best" solution? Check out this [link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXYSU7&P=7]AeroWorks .60-.90 Extra 260 QB ARF Red 60"[/link]. Power this baby with an OS .95AX and an APC 13x9, 14x6 or a 14x8 prop to get started...now your getting into the "Best" kind of 60-90 sized plane for IMAC...or with the right CG and throw settings, this combo will make a decent, entry level, 3D plane as well! PS...now if you really want to get out there with this plane, throw in a OS 1.20AX and let the fun begin!


FEATURES: Construction: Laser cut and jig built balsa and ply and glued
double-beveled control surfaces
Wings: Two-piece balsa and ply construction with pre-hinged ailerons
and carbon fiber wing tube
Aileron Control: One servo per wing
Rudder Control: Single servo pull-pull system
Engine Box: Plywood, installed and fuel proofed
Engine Mount: Two-piece composite
Cowl: Painted fiberglass
Covering: Ultracote
Canopy: Pre-mounted molded plastic
Landing Gear: Painted and pre-mounted 7075 Aluminum, three foam
wheels
Fuel Tank: 15oz (450cc)
Spinner: White plastic 2.25" (57mm)
Wheel Pants: Painted fiberglass
Building Time: Ready to fly in approximately 8-10 hours
Warranty: Aeroworks manufacturing guarantees this kit to be free from
defects in both material and workmanship at the date of purchase.
This limited warranty does not cover any component parts damaged by
use or modification.

INCLUDES: Pre-built and covered wings, fuselage and tail assemblies, pushrods,
all hardware, decals, throw meter, fuel tank, landing gear, wheels
wing tube, spinner and instruction manual on CD

REQUIRES: Radio: 6-channel minimum computer radio with PCM receiver strongly
recommended
Aileron Servos: Two with at least 80 oz/in torque @ 4.8V
Rudder Servos: One with at least 80 oz/in torque @ 4.8V
Elevator Servo: Two with at least 80 oz/in torque @ 4.8V
Servo Extensions: Four 6" One 12"
Receiver Battery: 4.8V 1100mAh minimum
Engine: .60 -.90 cu in (9.8 - 14.7cc) 2 or 4-stroke with standard or
Pitts muffler OR
Electric Motor: Aeroworks recommends the Skyshark Lightning 50
Power Package (not carried)
Propeller, building and field equipment

SPECS: Wingspan: 60" (152cm)
Wing Area: 690 sq in (44.57 sq dm)
Fuse Length: 55" (140cm) Rudder to Front of Spinner
Weight: 6 - 6.5bs (2.72 - 2.94kg)
Center of Gravity: 2.25" (57mm) back from the leading edge of the
wing measured at the wing tip
Control Throws- 3D Rate High Rate Low Rate
Elevator up & down: 2.5" or 45° 1.75" or 25° 7/8" or 16°
Rudder left to right: n/a or 40° n/a or 35° n/a or 35°
Ailerons up & down: 2.25" or 45° 1.5" or 25° 1" or 16°

Hope this has helped! [8D]
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Not kidding. Of course now there are 2 good aircraft recommendations. However, having experience with both I'll stick with my recommendation.
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OOOOOK then...Have a nice day[sm=75_75.gif] LOL
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I will and do most of the time. Sorry I got you fueled up over this. I was only giving one option to a fellow modeler. No need to get personal over it.

Tony - my apology that your thread went this direction.
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hi NO PROBLEM GENTELMEM-thank you both for your helpi had the aeroworks in the back of my mind when i posted this thread the plane really does perform for its size and i do like the fact that it has a scale look-nice price at 190.00 with glass cowl and pantsthanks again for your input
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NP guys...takes a lot more than a forum post to get me off and running. Have a nice day![8D]

PS...you bring a profile plane to an IMAC event, I'll beat you hands down EVERY TIME! LOL
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Tony,

Wildhare makes some nice airplanes that just about fit your category. The Baby Edge and Baby Extra are both at the upper limit of wingspan you are talking about and you can fly them on a glow in the 1.20 size range with plenty of power. I've had an OS200FS on my Edge (it was the only plane I've ever owned that I thought had truly to much engine on it) but I hear the Saito 125 flies it very well for IMAC or 3D. Having said that I would encourage you to go with a gasser. Wildhare sells a 30cc that works well for these planes. I switched to an MLD 28 that you can get from Cermark and it is still unlimited vertical. I encourage you to think about a gasser because if you want to compete in IMAC you will burn a lot of fuel at practice and Gas it so much cheaper than glow. That's why I switched. For just 2 or 3 gallons of glow fuel cost I could pay for the gas engine instead of the glow and run LOTS of gasoline cheap! Obviously I lost money on the deal as I bought the 4 stroke then changed but if you buy the gasser up front you will save money in the long run (and not very long at that). My plane came out to 10lbs and the power is sufficient to pull straight up, THEN roll in throttle and climb, throw in a snap or two and accelerate again straight up.
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Tony,

Wildhare makes some nice airplanes that just about fit your category. The Baby Edge and Baby Extra are both at the upper limit of wingspan you are talking about and you can fly them on a glow in the 1.20 size range with plenty of power. I've had an OS200FS on my Edge (it was the only plane I've ever owned that I thought had truly to much engine on it) but I hear the Saito 125 flies it very well for IMAC or 3D. Having said that I would encourage you to go with a gasser. Wildhare sells a 30cc that works well for these planes. I switched to an MLD 28 that you can get from Cermark and it is still unlimited vertical. I encourage you to think about a gasser because if you want to compete in IMAC you will burn a lot of fuel at practice and Gas it so much cheaper than glow. That's why I switched. For just 2 or 3 gallons of glow fuel cost I could pay for the gas engine instead of the glow and run LOTS of gasoline cheap! Obviously I lost money on the deal as I bought the 4 stroke then changed but if you buy the gasser up front you will save money in the long run (and not very long at that). My plane came out to 10lbs and the power is sufficient to pull straight up, THEN roll in throttle and climb, throw in a snap or two and accelerate again straight up.
Well put jsallade...This is a real good suggestion here Tony if your seriously concidering IMAC. I have a WildHare 35% Sukhoi in my stable and it's truly a well built and great flying plane...at good prices too!

PS...Just to throw out there...For what I spend in glow fuel in a 2 month period, will power my gas planes for a year! Other side of the coin...Wait to you see the difference in your "clean up" between a gas and a glow plane after a day of flying! LOL
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Tony.

A couple of important points that have not been mentioned.

Generally, in IMAC the model has to be a scale model of an aerobatic airplane.
The outline of the plane can not deviate more than 10% from "true" scale.

The only exception to this rule is for the Basic class, where there is no scale requirement at all.

Therefore, for Basic, (in my opinion) the "Best" plane would be the one that flies the best. There are no model planes that fly better than Pattern models.
A 2x2 meter pattern model, preferably with an electric motor operating on 10s lipo, would therefore be best.
A "Profile plane" will fly the Basic program quite well, but not as well as a pattern model.

For all the other classes, it has to be a scale model.

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