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Old 08-17-2013, 11:10 AM
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I've usually had fair results with that technique but its not 100% and
I think by now an upgrade to make the iPhone app more resilient
is in order
Old 08-17-2013, 11:40 AM
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hello, i got a DX 18, and now i am trying to set this up.
i am using a powerbox.
the tm 1000 is plugged into the powerbox bind slot.
i have bound it.
on my Tx, it appears to not recognize it, since all the readings are zero.

anyone can help me??
Old 08-17-2013, 11:48 AM
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Try plugging the tm1000 into the data port of the receiver. That is if you are using a Spektrum receiver that has a data port.
Old 08-17-2013, 01:57 PM
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Thanks John, i got it working now. i am getting cylinder head temp, GPS, voltage at powerbox, and voltage at battery direct, and voltage / amp of both batteries at powerbox.
Old 08-18-2013, 07:23 AM
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thought i had it, oops. it seems i plugged it into Aux 5, but now, i have to rebind it. so, i need to find a way to make this work. does anyone know which is data port on powerbox spektrum royal?
Old 08-18-2013, 11:05 AM
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It doesn't have one. The only Flight Log output is the LCD in the top of the rx.

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Old 08-18-2013, 11:50 AM
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Thanks Andy, i just found that out on another thread. what a shame, since the PB royal SPektrum is the king daddy, cost me 900+ each. you'd think it would have come with that, for that much green. anyways, i still like my PB ROyal. what if i used a separate receiver, that had data port on it, and bound all three at same time (PB + receiver + TM 1000), could that work?
Old 08-18-2013, 12:28 PM
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I honestly don't know. I've only ever seen a Royal once in my life.

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Old 08-19-2013, 11:14 AM
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Default Log data from recent flight in error?

I recorded this data on my DX18 during a flight of my giant scale Top Flite P51. Should I be worried? This appears that it might be spurious data but I hate to ignore it and find out it wasn't. This was the only time during a 7+ minute flight that this occurred. Not a single frame loss the rest of the flight. Also it looks rather more than coincidental that there were 33 antenna fades reported by the B antennas before and after this!! Looks like a data parse error but I'm not sure if it's an issue with the software I'm displaying it with or the raw data from the TM1000.

Also believe someone mentioned an issue where the L antenna took hits in multiples of 256 like this shows and that this is not a cause for concern??? Can't find that right now so comments welcome on that as well. Here is the data.
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:25 AM
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Looks like a standard Telemetry Range Warning to me.

Which telemetry data viewer are you using?

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Old 08-19-2013, 12:20 PM
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The Robo Spektrum Telemetry Viewer. What does "Telemetry Range Warning" mean? I think/hope you are saying the TM1000 is having trouble communicating to me... not the receiver/xmitter link?
Old 08-19-2013, 12:43 PM
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That's good software. It's what we use internally to work on the files.

The TM1000 is saying "You are at the limit of how far I can hear you." It has nothing to do with the control range, as it is purposely shorter than control.

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Old 08-19-2013, 12:53 PM
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OK, that makes me feel better. Is there some reason I am seeing the L receiver take fades in increments of 256? Is my antenna placement that bad or what? I guess I'm asking what should I infer from these numbers? I can upload the whole TLM file is that would be helpful.
Old 08-19-2013, 01:08 PM
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There's a pretty well-publicized bug with the L remotes in DSMX receivers doing that. It's a known issue that the rx guys own; I'm not on that dev team.

You can check your installation by swapping L & R at the base receiver and checking again, you'll see that it's probably just fine.

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Old 08-22-2013, 07:22 PM
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Hi Andy, i moved my TM 1000 to another airplane, and it has a power safe JR receiver.
the data from tm 1000 is connected to the data/bind on the receiver.
i am using dx 18
i cannot get it to pick up any data...
when i bind, i press the bind on tm1000, turn on the switch for airplane, remove the bond stick, while all the receiver lights are flashing, then i turn on the Tx while depressing the bind button.
the Tx says "BIND", but the TM 1000, a little red light is on, to the left side of the 3 male plugs.
while it is binding, there is no light that is on.
any ideas?
i have two TM 1000, and switched it out, and used the older one, problem persists...

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Old 08-22-2013, 08:53 PM
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i figured it out.
i am using the Jr 922x powersafe receiver.

i found solution on another thread on another website, i cannot mention the name of it here, but it deals with things that fly and that are very big.
here it is
this is what i had to do.

i used a y harness, plugged the tm1000 into the y then into bind/data.
i then put bind plug into the yharness
then
i switched it on

then all of the lights of the satellite Rx were blinking, except, the TM1000 were not and neither were the lights on the Rx on.

then, i unplugged the y harness from the Rx (while the satellites are still blinking),
then, i got a 6.0 volt battery, i plugged the tm 1000 into the data port on a standard 2.4 ghz receiver, then plugged the battery into the receiver, and now, all lights are blinking on the satellites and on the TM 1000

then i did Tx bind
and immediately it all worked.

while Rx for plane was still on, i unplugged TM 1000 from spare Rx, and then plugged it back into the airplane Rx data port, then i played with it

and it is awesome.

i am using optical RPM sensor, and the reading was way high, just with me spinning the backplate, it was reading over 10,000

so i don't know how to fix this yet.

but now i know how to make it work on my powersafes and on the power box!!
Old 08-23-2013, 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by orthobird
i figured it out.
i am using the Jr 922x powersafe receiver.

i found solution on another thread on another website, i cannot mention the name of it here, but it deals with things that fly and that are very big.
here it is
this is what i had to do.

i used a y harness, plugged the tm1000 into the y then into bind/data.
i then put bind plug into the yharness
then
i switched it on

then all of the lights of the satellite Rx were blinking, except, the TM1000 were not and neither were the lights on the Rx on.

then, i unplugged the y harness from the Rx (while the satellites are still blinking),
then, i got a 6.0 volt battery, i plugged the tm 1000 into the data port on a standard 2.4 ghz receiver, then plugged the battery into the receiver, and now, all lights are blinking on the satellites and on the TM 1000

then i did Tx bind
and immediately it all worked.

while Rx for plane was still on, i unplugged TM 1000 from spare Rx, and then plugged it back into the airplane Rx data port, then i played with it

and it is awesome.

i am using optical RPM sensor, and the reading was way high, just with me spinning the backplate, it was reading over 10,000

so i don't know how to fix this yet.

but now i know how to make it work on my powersafes and on the power box!!
What???? that's way too complicated, no?
Old 08-23-2013, 04:25 AM
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There is a special bind procedure for some models of powersafe RXers. It typically involves using a second battery. The procedure is way over complicated. But it does work reliably. I have two AR 9210s (powersafes) with telemetry and had a heck of a time getting them to take a bind correctly. Eventually, they came out with the "second battery bind procedure".

You can typically bind w/o following their procedure. But, how long you press the Bind button is critical!. Maybe that is why HH very quickly stopped selling some of these powersafe models. I am not overly happy being stuck with two over $400 rxers that are difficult to bind and have proven unreliable to keep the bind and are no longer available after less than a year.
Old 08-23-2013, 07:21 AM
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I know, but i have a on my face, cause it works!!!
Old 08-23-2013, 09:44 AM
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can anyone help me, being that i am using DA engines, i cannot get the rpm sensor to work with my TM 1000 by using a Y harness. i've tried multiple times, but no luck. i believe it only works with DLE and Rexcel CDI systems.


i am trying to set up with optical RPM sensor.

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problem is, i am getting very high RPM readings...
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Old 08-23-2013, 10:44 AM
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I cannot tell for certain from the thumbnails but try rotating tthe pickup
sensor 90 degrees and check the number of poles your using
Old 08-23-2013, 05:23 PM
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does this pertain to the spectrum optical sensor:
Installing the RPM Sensor in your ModelThe Optical RPM sensor should be installed so that its face (the flat part opposite the wiring) is
facing a spinning surface on your model, such as the prop hub, flywheel, spinner, axle, gear, etc.
The sensor’s face should be mounted so that it is about 2-4 mm from the spinning object. It is not
a bad idea to test the sensor at various distances using Live Mode (see your Recorder instruction
manual) to determine the best distance before permanently mounting the sensor, if this can be done
safely. The sensor can normally be glued into place, or mounted with heatshrink or tape to a selfconstructed
bracket (brass tubing usually works well), depending on where you are mounting it.
The surface to which the sensor is pointing should have alternating light and dark areas. The dark area must NOT be shiny or reflective. It should
be flat. For best results, half (180 degrees) of the surface should be light, and half should be dark. If you are mounting the sensor near a spinning
hub that is constructed light colored material , a black magic marker (if the result is not shiny), flat black paint, or flat black electrical tape can be
used to color half of the circumference black. Or, if you are mounting it next to dark colored spinning object (such as black plastic), you can use
white paint, white tape, or a white paint pen to make half of the circumference white. Note that if you are mounting on a black plastic spinning
object, make sure that the plastic is flat. It may be necessary to lightly sand it to take off any glossy surface.
Old 08-24-2013, 03:47 PM
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i just came back from flying my airplane, and all of the telemetry data, such as temp and voltage is awesome. the optical RPM, i cannot get it to work. i am wondering if the backplate should be painted half white half black? would this make it work better?

this is what i did, i painted back compeletely white, then i sanded it down some to make it less "shiny" or reflective". doing this , i found out today, did not solve the problem.
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Old 08-25-2013, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by orthobird
i just came back from flying my airplane, and all of the telemetry data, such as temp and voltage is awesome. the optical RPM, i cannot get it to work. i am wondering if the backplate should be painted half white half black? would this make it work better?

this is what i did, i painted back compeletely white, then i sanded it down some to make it less "shiny" or reflective". doing this , i found out today, did not solve the problem.
Now paint half of the back side of spinner plate a flat black. No shiny white or black. You should be good to go if everything else is hooked up correctly.
Old 08-25-2013, 09:49 AM
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Thanks John, i just painted it. as soon as it is dry, i i will test it.
should ratio be 1 to 1
and pole by INH?

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