12x Buddy Box
11-27-2009, 12:21 AM
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12x Buddy Box
Maybe this has been answered here, but if so, I couldn't find it.
Is the 12X compatible with other JR radios for buddy boxing?
If not all, which models are compatible?
What are the limitations? For example, if I use the setup feature on the 12x to use separate channels for ailerons or elevators, with this impact the buddy box capability?
Thanks, K.
Is the 12X compatible with other JR radios for buddy boxing?
If not all, which models are compatible?
What are the limitations? For example, if I use the setup feature on the 12x to use separate channels for ailerons or elevators, with this impact the buddy box capability?
Thanks, K.
11-27-2009, 01:22 AM
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RE: 12x Buddy Box
With the 12X and 9303 it is very easy to set up a buddy system if you are willing to have only the stick positions transferred. Either one can be the master or the slave. Set the master transmitter to program trainer, not normal trainer, and the slave transmitter to slave. While you are transferring only four channels at the most, you don’t have worry about duplicating the master program on the slave transmitter.
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11-27-2009, 10:26 PM
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RE: 12x Buddy Box
Well I tried this and it didn't work. Actually, when I punch the trainer eyebrow switch on the 12X (which was programmed as master), one of the flaps deflected and the gear retracted. Not sure what was going on.
So I tried it with a JR sport radio that I bought specifically for buddy boxing and only one of the control surfaces would deflect. I am still at a loss.
There has to be something I am missing and the manual doesn't seem to help.
Buddy boxing does work fine from 12x to 12x if I transfer the program and set the other 12x up as a slave.
So I tried it with a JR sport radio that I bought specifically for buddy boxing and only one of the control surfaces would deflect. I am still at a loss.
There has to be something I am missing and the manual doesn't seem to help.
Buddy boxing does work fine from 12x to 12x if I transfer the program and set the other 12x up as a slave.
11-27-2009, 10:35 PM
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RE: 12x Buddy Box
Keith,
What are you using as the slave transmitter. I've used this method a number of times for my 9303 and 12X. It does depends on the slave transmitter having a slave setting for the trainer. A friend who has an 8103 said he wasn't able to get it to work. Not having an 8103 in front of me, I couldn't check it out.
As for the flaps deflecting and gear retracting, does that occur when you don't have the slave connected? Also the slave transmitter has to be off when using the trainer mode.
Allan
BTW, in the program trainer mode on the master transmitter, only those surfaces that are in the slave positions will be transferred to the master. This is using the 9303 terminology. I don't have my 12X in front of me.
What are you using as the slave transmitter. I've used this method a number of times for my 9303 and 12X. It does depends on the slave transmitter having a slave setting for the trainer. A friend who has an 8103 said he wasn't able to get it to work. Not having an 8103 in front of me, I couldn't check it out.
As for the flaps deflecting and gear retracting, does that occur when you don't have the slave connected? Also the slave transmitter has to be off when using the trainer mode.
Allan
BTW, in the program trainer mode on the master transmitter, only those surfaces that are in the slave positions will be transferred to the master. This is using the 9303 terminology. I don't have my 12X in front of me.
11-27-2009, 10:35 PM
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RE: 12x Buddy Box
Using a different model Tx as a Buddy Box always presents some challenges. You can only use a Buddy Box in PPM mode, I believe. With Unlike Tx's, you will have to manually set up each channel. If you are just using the 4 basic channels it is simpler than if you are using Flapperons, Ailevator, Programmable Mixes, etc.
11-27-2009, 11:02 PM
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RE: 12x Buddy Box
Both radios are 2.4. I had the 9303 set to slave and the transmitter was powered off.
If I have the right aileron on channel 2 on the 12X and the left aileron on Aux2, I am assuming from your comments that this will probably not be "boxable" with the 9303, as only channel 2 is controlled by the slave?
Thanks for the help.
If I have the right aileron on channel 2 on the 12X and the left aileron on Aux2, I am assuming from your comments that this will probably not be "boxable" with the 9303, as only channel 2 is controlled by the slave?
Thanks for the help.
11-28-2009, 03:59 AM
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RE: 12x Buddy Box
ORIGINAL: pilott28
Both radios are 2.4. I had the 9303 set to slave and the transmitter was powered off.
If I have the right aileron on channel 2 on the 12X and the left aileron on Aux2, I am assuming from your comments that this will probably not be "boxable" with the 9303, as only channel 2 is controlled by the slave?
Thanks for the help.
Both radios are 2.4. I had the 9303 set to slave and the transmitter was powered off.
If I have the right aileron on channel 2 on the 12X and the left aileron on Aux2, I am assuming from your comments that this will probably not be "boxable" with the 9303, as only channel 2 is controlled by the slave?
Thanks for the help.
Negative! Keith, if you are using the X9303 as your slave, it makes no difference what you have programmed the 12X master transmitter. You can use the NORMAL wing with the aileron paired to the GEAR channel, the default Flaperon with the aileron paired to AUX1, the DELTA with the aileron paired with the elevator, or the 4-AILE with the aileron paired with GEAR, AUX2, and AUX3. In fact, your 12X can be set for HELI or GLID. They all work with the same setting on the X9303 slave.
Try this with empty memory slots on the 12X and X9303.
On the 12X first use the (28. MDL) Reset. Set up your wing and rest of the program. Now go to (78. Trainer) and verify it is set as MASTER. Set THRO, AILE, ELEV, and RUDD to SLAV. Leave the SW SEL on LTRM. Go to (75. Monitor) and verify that pulling the left trim eyebrow switch doesn’t cause any surface deflection.
On the X9303 and set the Type SEL to ACRO. Reset the model by MDL Reset. Go to Trainer and set it as SLAVE.
Connect the 12X and X9303 with a standard 2-conductor trainer cord. Turn on the 12X and leave the X9303 off. Go to the monitor screen on the 12X and you should see that the X9303's sticks control the surfaces exactly as the 12X when the 12X trainer switch is held down.
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11-28-2009, 07:48 AM
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RE: 12x Buddy Box
ORIGINAL: AWorrest
Negative! Keith, if you are using the X9303 as your slave, it makes no difference what you have programmed the 12X master transmitter. You can use the NORMAL wing with the aileron paired to the GEAR channel, the default Flaperon with the aileron paired to AUX1, the DELTA with the aileron paired with the elevator, or the 4-AILE with the aileron paired with GEAR, AUX2, and AUX3. In fact, your 12X can be set for HELI or GLID. They all work with the same setting on the X9303 slave.
Try this with empty memory slots on the 12X and X9303.
On the 12X first use the (28. MDL) Reset. Set up your wing and rest of the program. Now go to (78. Trainer) and verify it is set as MASTER. Set THRO, AILE, ELEV, and RUDD to SLAV. Leave the SW SEL on LTRM. Go to (75. Monitor) and verify that pulling the left trim eyebrow switch doesn’t cause any surface deflection.
On the X9303 and set the Type SEL to ACRO. Reset the model by MDL Reset. Go to Trainer and set it as SLAVE.
Connect the 12X and X9303 with a standard 2-conductor trainer cord. Turn on the 12X and leave the X9303 off. Go to the monitor screen on the 12X and you should see that the X9303's sticks control the surfaces exactly as the 12X when the 12X trainer switch is held down.
Allan
ORIGINAL: pilott28
Both radios are 2.4. I had the 9303 set to slave and the transmitter was powered off.
If I have the right aileron on channel 2 on the 12X and the left aileron on Aux2, I am assuming from your comments that this will probably not be ''boxable'' with the 9303, as only channel 2 is controlled by the slave?
Thanks for the help.
Both radios are 2.4. I had the 9303 set to slave and the transmitter was powered off.
If I have the right aileron on channel 2 on the 12X and the left aileron on Aux2, I am assuming from your comments that this will probably not be ''boxable'' with the 9303, as only channel 2 is controlled by the slave?
Thanks for the help.
Negative! Keith, if you are using the X9303 as your slave, it makes no difference what you have programmed the 12X master transmitter. You can use the NORMAL wing with the aileron paired to the GEAR channel, the default Flaperon with the aileron paired to AUX1, the DELTA with the aileron paired with the elevator, or the 4-AILE with the aileron paired with GEAR, AUX2, and AUX3. In fact, your 12X can be set for HELI or GLID. They all work with the same setting on the X9303 slave.
Try this with empty memory slots on the 12X and X9303.
On the 12X first use the (28. MDL) Reset. Set up your wing and rest of the program. Now go to (78. Trainer) and verify it is set as MASTER. Set THRO, AILE, ELEV, and RUDD to SLAV. Leave the SW SEL on LTRM. Go to (75. Monitor) and verify that pulling the left trim eyebrow switch doesn’t cause any surface deflection.
On the X9303 and set the Type SEL to ACRO. Reset the model by MDL Reset. Go to Trainer and set it as SLAVE.
Connect the 12X and X9303 with a standard 2-conductor trainer cord. Turn on the 12X and leave the X9303 off. Go to the monitor screen on the 12X and you should see that the X9303's sticks control the surfaces exactly as the 12X when the 12X trainer switch is held down.
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11-28-2009, 11:46 AM
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RE: 12x Buddy Box
Keith,
That is amazing that it didn’t work for you. I’ve been using the program trainer mode as described in my last post since the XP9303 first came on the market. It has worked for the X9303 and 12X as well.
I have recorded a generic 12X master program for the 12X PCDATA Transfer and an x9303 slave program for the 9X PCDATA Transfer. I can't upload them to you through RCU PM or E-mail as neither will take a binary data file.If you PM me with your e-mail address, I will zip them to you. These programs work on my transmitters.
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11-28-2009, 02:51 PM
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RE: 12x Buddy Box
Thanks. I am going to continue to play with this again to see if I can figure anything out. Just to be clear, I am using the 12x as master and 9303 as slave.
I must be doing something wrong.
I must be doing something wrong.
11-30-2009, 07:47 PM
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RE: 12x Buddy Box
Ok, to close this out, a couple of you mentioned that the 9303 needed to be in PPM mode. That appears to be the fix to my problem.
Thanks for all the help. K.
Thanks for all the help. K.
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RE: 12x Buddy Box
I too was having a problem with this on the 12x and this answers it for me too. (didntknow it needed to be in PPM Mode) Great to have these discussions so we can alllearn from this.
