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Old 02-20-2006, 04:16 PM
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Plane arrived on Wed. and was hinged wed. night in prep. for the weekend. Everyone arrived Fri, and we went to work. Plane is ready to fly as of Sunday at 2:00 p.m. Al went above and beyond to get the airplane here by Wed and his service is second to none. Dennis at Kirby's Kustom Graphics did a knock out job and Scott at SWB manufacturing had all the goodies I needed, including the dimensions on the pull pull exit points. Thanks to all who helped, and if there anyone I can help here, let me know. Picture probs, will post when they work.
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Old 02-20-2006, 04:19 PM
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Old 02-20-2006, 04:33 PM
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Wow, looks great. Just wait till you fly it. You'll like it even more.
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Old 02-20-2006, 05:14 PM
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John it looks great. I love the graphics that kirby's did for it and I really like the pilot. Is that one of 35% composite creations helmets?
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Old 02-20-2006, 05:38 PM
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John,

THAT"S HOT!!!! Can't wait till you get some stick time on it!!!!!!!

Guess I'll have to get Kirby to make me a set



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Old 02-20-2006, 05:40 PM
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John,

can you email me some of the shots, We'd like to take them to the WRAMS show and SHOW them OFF


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KEvin, it is the 40% sanded down a lot. Al, the pictures will be in your hands tomorrow.
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Awe man you suck!!! I just got mine from DHL today... looks pretty sweet!!!!

I thought I was going to have the only one with the covering swapped around on the tail... oh well!

My setup is almost identical except I am going with 5955s (my Extra has 8611s... thought I'd try something new) the 2400 Peerless packs... they are supposed to have plenty of punch for a 35%. Believe it or not, I was using the older 2200 mAh Relions on my Radiowave 35% Extra. But, I have the same tray, motor, exhaust, etc...

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What right thrust are you using?
How did the balance go (any weight needed?)
Are you using the compact or regular exhaust?
Did you have to cut the cowl for the front of the exhaust cans?
What size spinner is that? My cowl measures 5" across at the spinner plateau, but I suppose a 4.5" would look good.

All in all... awesome job!!!
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Old 02-20-2006, 11:26 PM
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Sillyness, 5" inch on the spinner is dead on, go with an "Extra" style, I think it will look better. Yeah, had to cut a little relief for the front of the mufflers. Standard Jtec muffler. I used and swb 2.5 deg. engine mount, so my firewall is at 0 deg. Make note that you will have cut out about 3/8" of the tri-stock and inset the firewall. Ask me how I know.... Then we just used the swb spacers supplied with the mount to get the spinner spot on. Thanks for the compliments on the airplane, with the scheme, graphics, and pilot it is truly one of the neatest looking planes I have seen. Gonna be long 5 or 6 weeks before stick time, but thats ok.
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Yeah you can kinda go either way on the spinner, I like the 5 inch better. I'll try and save John some work by helping with the questions you had Jason.

The mufflers are a set of JTEC standard DA 100 mufflers and you should not have to cut out anything in the front of the cowling. Only the original white prototype needed that and that was because we were to lazy to move the firewall back in that one. Most people I know have about 2 1/2 degrees right thrust in the plane (it should be about the same as the extra). Everyone that has the plane so far has not added any weight from what I know, it is pretty easy to balance by adjusting where you put your rudder servos.

Maybe that will help.
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Yup. Thanks.

Right now I have the standard DA muffs... was wondering if I should send 'em back for some compacts... I'll think about it.

So to get this straight... you left the fron of the motor box on and just recessed the firewall back inside it?

Also, my cowl is not mounted, so I was wondering what the approx position of the motor is on yours for a starting point... did you use 10mm left and centered vertically, or does it have to be high on the firewall?

I think I might get some Forgues Research stand-offs... they can be made with thrust angle built in and they don't have the weight that plate at the back. Not sure yet!!!

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"I thought I was going to have the only one with the covering swapped around on the tail... oh well! "

Hey is it possible you guys had a parts mixup in shipping?
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Al/Kevin, I had to open slots for the front front of the muffler, not much but a little was required. Might be because my cowl overlaps the hatch by 1/8" or so. Actually, I am pretty sure that that's the difference.

Jaason, I found thw SWB 2.5 deg motor mount real easy to use. He has the amount of offset to stagger the motor so the spinner is centered.
Yeah, recessing the firewall will be perfect. My math was off when we originally mounted the firewall, so we basically remeasured, cut with skil saw, and reglued in a new firewall.
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Nope... mine and his are exactly the same. It was just a goof at the factory, or maybe an intentional change-up... I think it looks pretty cool like it is. Almost wish my wings were swapped around too... that would be pretty sweet lookin!!!
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Have you had a chance to weigh it yet?
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Old 02-22-2006, 08:24 AM
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Very crude way of doing it, but the bathroom scale while balancing the plane on the spinner came in between 29.5 and 30 lbs. I did absolutley nothing in the form weight removal.
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OK... that's what I got too... I added up everything going into it and I have 28.5 pounds (with carbon tubes and just a lightened spinner backplate, Kavan wheels, Ti axles, Fromecos, that's it). I weighed a few of the items in plastic bags, so the weights may be a LITTLE overstimated. I posted the whole list on flying giants... can't post docs on here.

I could cut some weight using a single aileron servo... don't want to. The SWB tray and extra rudder servo together add 6 ozs... I want the extra power!!! My planes spend a lot of time on their sides.

I plan on milling out the center section of the gear to cut a little weight... 4-5 ozs probably... should make up for the glue and little bit of wood to make trays, etc... I'll be very happy if I can get it flying at 28.5 lbs!!!
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I have the carbon tube also, thinking of finding some carbon landing gear. I'll wait til a few flights though.
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