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10-23-2010, 05:54 PM
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I'm about to finish my BUSA Eindecker 90 and am looking forward to my next build. I would like something that is pretty easy to fly like a Sig 4* and somewhat scale looking. I'm not much of a rudder user so planes with adverse yawl, eh!
Warbirds are a plus.
I plan on using Solartex for covering and definitely a 4 stroke or maybe even gas for power. I'd like to keep the WS at 80" or under.
Thanks!
Warbirds are a plus.
I plan on using Solartex for covering and definitely a 4 stroke or maybe even gas for power. I'd like to keep the WS at 80" or under.
Thanks!
10-23-2010, 07:13 PM
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ORIGINAL: Ram-bro
Top Flite Stinson....great flying plane
Top Flite Stinson....great flying plane
And it fly's good? Easy?
10-23-2010, 07:37 PM
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One that I want to build sometime might fit your bill
Spacewalker. Sig makes a 1/3 and a 1/4 scale plane
1/4 scale kit- $199.99
1/3 scale kit- $279.99
Hope this helps
Ken
Spacewalker. Sig makes a 1/3 and a 1/4 scale plane
1/4 scale kit- $199.99
1/3 scale kit- $279.99
Hope this helps
Ken
10-23-2010, 08:16 PM
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The Stinson flies very good, slows down good, very stable, not a fast airplane and it can be done up in military fare. I think the Brits or the Canadians flew it as either a obseration or liason /utilty type bird. The fuse is long which helps with a taildragger and the gear is spaced pretty wide.
10-23-2010, 08:55 PM
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I would go with the Spacewalker as well. If your going to go scale you better get used to flying with rudder especially a taildragger.
A big old Cub will get you used to using rudder as well.
Anthony
A big old Cub will get you used to using rudder as well.
Anthony
10-23-2010, 08:57 PM
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I used to fly the big Spacewalker for a fellow a few years back and it really is a fun plane to fly. Today I have been flying another fellows smaller ones, one is Epowered and one is glow. Just small ARFs but still a joy to fly. Not a bad choice at all plus the colors show up very well. I never stunted the big one very much but these smaller ones also stunt nice.
10-23-2010, 09:07 PM
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10-23-2010, 10:05 PM
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Going back to your original question that you want something, preferably a warbird, but didn't have a lot of experience with the rudder. Unfortunately most every warbird is going to require use of the rudder in order to fly them. Just the nature of the beast with warbirds unfortunately. If you want something that's easy to fly like a 4-star but that you can practice your skills with the rudder you might want to think about a BTE Venture 60 from Bruce Tharpe Engineering. Bruce designed the original 4-Star 40 and 120, but they made the 4-Star 60 after he left Sig. He designed the Venture 60 as what he would have done and it is truly fantastic plane. It's a good building plane that flies great. You might want to take a look.
http://www.btemodels.com/venture.html
(note: Bruce's website seems to be down at the moment. Hopefully he'll get it back up soon)
Ken
http://www.btemodels.com/venture.html
(note: Bruce's website seems to be down at the moment. Hopefully he'll get it back up soon)
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10-24-2010, 10:09 AM
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I realize that Ill have to start learning to use the rudder more often and that's not a problem. I'm a fast learner with above average hand eye coordination with a transmitter from my 17 years of racing cars. But all that means nothing if I get into a bind, so I'm hoping for a plane that is somewhat forgiving like a 4*. But I already knew that I was asking alot and there is most likely no such plane made. And that's why I tossed this question out here. There's some really smart and experienced guys here on RCU and it's nice to have a forum like this to bounce ideas around.
Although I have been building kits for many years, I am still a rookie when it comes to flying. I have probably 300 flights altogether and that started with Pico Sticks to a LT40 kit that I has somebody take off and land for me some ten years ago, then a lengthy hiatus for the car thing and just in the last couple of years got more interested in building PLUS flying. In the beginning of my RC plane interest was all about building planes and I could care less about flying. I think I'm still more interested in building than flying but I have reached a point that Ill have to advance with my flying skills if I want to advance my building skills especially when it comes to scale and warbirds.
After listening to you guys here is my plan. I think Ken is right about the BTE Venture. I had a 4*60 that could of been my first plane and I thought it flew easier than my LT40 did. I wish I wouldn't of sold it. But this today and what I'm planning is multi faceted and sort of confusing even to me. lol I have short and long term goals and hopefully I'm approaching this right.
First, finish the re-build of my LT-25 and fly the SNOT out of it!
Second, finish my BUSA Eindecker 90 build and set it aside. I have WAY too many hours and care into it just to take it out and dumb thumb it into the ground.
Kitbash a BTE Venture into some sort of warbird looking plane and I'm thinking olive drab Solartex covering with either British markings or Japanese like a Zero.
All the while, have a long term goal of building a very sweet plane that I can put on and take off the building board starting a year from now or so.
Although I have been building kits for many years, I am still a rookie when it comes to flying. I have probably 300 flights altogether and that started with Pico Sticks to a LT40 kit that I has somebody take off and land for me some ten years ago, then a lengthy hiatus for the car thing and just in the last couple of years got more interested in building PLUS flying. In the beginning of my RC plane interest was all about building planes and I could care less about flying. I think I'm still more interested in building than flying but I have reached a point that Ill have to advance with my flying skills if I want to advance my building skills especially when it comes to scale and warbirds.
After listening to you guys here is my plan. I think Ken is right about the BTE Venture. I had a 4*60 that could of been my first plane and I thought it flew easier than my LT40 did. I wish I wouldn't of sold it. But this today and what I'm planning is multi faceted and sort of confusing even to me. lol I have short and long term goals and hopefully I'm approaching this right.
First, finish the re-build of my LT-25 and fly the SNOT out of it!
Second, finish my BUSA Eindecker 90 build and set it aside. I have WAY too many hours and care into it just to take it out and dumb thumb it into the ground.
Kitbash a BTE Venture into some sort of warbird looking plane and I'm thinking olive drab Solartex covering with either British markings or Japanese like a Zero.
All the while, have a long term goal of building a very sweet plane that I can put on and take off the building board starting a year from now or so.
10-24-2010, 10:57 AM
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ORIGINAL: RCKen
One that I want to build sometime might fit your bill
Spacewalker. Sig makes a 1/3 and a 1/4 scale plane
One that I want to build sometime might fit your bill
Spacewalker. Sig makes a 1/3 and a 1/4 scale plane
I also like that Stinson. I bought the little Parkzone SR-10 yesterday. it is one of those planes that is as fun to look at as fly. Having a giant scale version would be great.
10-24-2010, 11:04 AM
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ORIGINAL: GaryHarris
I realize that Ill have to start learning to use the rudder more often and that's not a problem. I'm a fast learner with above average hand eye coordination with a transmitter from my 17 years of racing cars. But all that means nothing if I get into a bind, so I'm hoping for a plane that is somewhat forgiving like a 4*. But I already knew that I was asking alot and there is most likely no such plane made. And that's why I tossed this question out here. There's some really smart and experienced guys here on RCU and it's nice to have a forum like this to bounce ideas around.
Although I have been building kits for many years, I am still a rookie when it comes to flying. I have probably 300 flights altogether and that started with Pico Sticks to a LT40 kit that I has somebody take off and land for me some ten years ago, then a lengthy hiatus for the car thing and just in the last couple of years got more interested in building PLUS flying. In the beginning of my RC plane interest was all about building planes and I could care less about flying. I think I'm still more interested in building than flying but I have reached a point that Ill have to advance with my flying skills if I want to advance my building skills especially when it comes to scale and warbirds.
After listening to you guys here is my plan. I think Ken is right about the BTE Venture. I had a 4*60 that could of been my first plane and I thought it flew easier than my LT40 did. I wish I wouldn't of sold it. But this today and what I'm planning is multi faceted and sort of confusing even to me. lol I have short and long term goals and hopefully I'm approaching this right.
First, finish the re-build of my LT-25 and fly the SNOT out of it!
Second, finish my BUSA Eindecker 90 build and set it aside. I have WAY too many hours and care into it just to take it out and dumb thumb it into the ground.
Kitbash a BTE Venture into some sort of warbird looking plane and I'm thinking olive drab Solartex covering with either British markings or Japanese like a Zero.
All the while, have a long term goal of building a very sweet plane that I can put on and take off the building board starting a year from now or so.
I realize that Ill have to start learning to use the rudder more often and that's not a problem. I'm a fast learner with above average hand eye coordination with a transmitter from my 17 years of racing cars. But all that means nothing if I get into a bind, so I'm hoping for a plane that is somewhat forgiving like a 4*. But I already knew that I was asking alot and there is most likely no such plane made. And that's why I tossed this question out here. There's some really smart and experienced guys here on RCU and it's nice to have a forum like this to bounce ideas around.
Although I have been building kits for many years, I am still a rookie when it comes to flying. I have probably 300 flights altogether and that started with Pico Sticks to a LT40 kit that I has somebody take off and land for me some ten years ago, then a lengthy hiatus for the car thing and just in the last couple of years got more interested in building PLUS flying. In the beginning of my RC plane interest was all about building planes and I could care less about flying. I think I'm still more interested in building than flying but I have reached a point that Ill have to advance with my flying skills if I want to advance my building skills especially when it comes to scale and warbirds.
After listening to you guys here is my plan. I think Ken is right about the BTE Venture. I had a 4*60 that could of been my first plane and I thought it flew easier than my LT40 did. I wish I wouldn't of sold it. But this today and what I'm planning is multi faceted and sort of confusing even to me. lol I have short and long term goals and hopefully I'm approaching this right.
First, finish the re-build of my LT-25 and fly the SNOT out of it!
Second, finish my BUSA Eindecker 90 build and set it aside. I have WAY too many hours and care into it just to take it out and dumb thumb it into the ground.
Kitbash a BTE Venture into some sort of warbird looking plane and I'm thinking olive drab Solartex covering with either British markings or Japanese like a Zero.
All the while, have a long term goal of building a very sweet plane that I can put on and take off the building board starting a year from now or so.
The venture is definitely a good one too. I have thought about getting one. You could always do it up in warbird colors and markings if you want.
10-24-2010, 11:17 AM
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Another good one to introduce you to warbirds would be the Top Flight T-34. This is what the military used for training of their pilots and would be a good step for you to learn about the way a warbird handles. It definitely will introduce you to rudder and has many of the flight characteristics of warbirds, but it is also very forgiving and will let you learn to fly warbirds without the hassels of flying a warbird right off the bat.
This one is also on of my favorites and is on my "to build" list. Not sure why, but I have always loved the lines of this plane
Top Flite T-34 Mentor
Ken
This one is also on of my favorites and is on my "to build" list. Not sure why, but I have always loved the lines of this plane
Top Flite T-34 Mentor
Ken
10-24-2010, 12:17 PM
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How 'bout a J3 Cub? Great Planes has a nice 40 size kit with a 76.5" WS and you could do it up in a military trainer or recon scheme. Good plane for working on your rudder skills and lends itself very well to floats for expanding your horizons. Easy build with lots of room for adding options like flaps and would look great(and scale) with a fabric type covering.
10-24-2010, 08:20 PM
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ORIGINAL: mike31
How do you land without using the rudder? Crosswind landings demand rudder. Learn, my son, learn.
How do you land without using the rudder? Crosswind landings demand rudder. Learn, my son, learn.
fly in nice weather. my left thumb only works for throttle motion.
i too think the mentor is going to be my big break into scale and warbirds, for that matter. it's just soooo expensive for the retracts. more than the darn plane costs. if you like it, or i guess not, you can go to airliners.net and do a search for it and there are way too many pics to choose from for scale representation. and it's got a nice cockpit kit. i wish top flight still made the P-39 air cobra. i'll have to scratch that one though.
10-25-2010, 12:31 PM
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My club and Chucks club used to have a racing class just for the T-34. We used one make of ARF? Can't remember the make, sorry, for that class. The engines used were the OS .46FX so there wasn't a lot of money needed for this class. These are outstanding planes to fly, I forgot about them completely. As to flying like a 4*??? I wouldn't go that far but a lot of guys have used them for there second plane and loved them. A great choice as a first warbird. Buy an ARF to fly while you are building a nice kit. Oh my god, who said that!!!!!!!!!
10-25-2010, 04:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: ChuckW
Maybe take a look at the TF .60 sized P-47. I am not going to lie and say it flys exactly like a 4-Star because it doesn't. It is a warbird after all. It isn't as difficult to fly as some other warbirds though. I have the ARF version and it flys like a sport plane a little on the heavy side in my opinion and landings are much simpler than other warbirds I own or have flown. The wide landing gear stance makes it handle well on the ground too. Looking at the specs, I imagine the kit version would be similar as long as you don't make it too heavy. Right now, I have the giant scale almost-ready-to-cover version in my garage. Going to get started on it this evening.
The venture is definitely a good one too. I have thought about getting one. You could always do it up in warbird colors and markings if you want.
ORIGINAL: GaryHarris
I realize that Ill have to start learning to use the rudder more often and that's not a problem. I'm a fast learner with above average hand eye coordination with a transmitter from my 17 years of racing cars. But all that means nothing if I get into a bind, so I'm hoping for a plane that is somewhat forgiving like a 4*. But I already knew that I was asking alot and there is most likely no such plane made. And that's why I tossed this question out here. There's some really smart and experienced guys here on RCU and it's nice to have a forum like this to bounce ideas around.
Although I have been building kits for many years, I am still a rookie when it comes to flying. I have probably 300 flights altogether and that started with Pico Sticks to a LT40 kit that I has somebody take off and land for me some ten years ago, then a lengthy hiatus for the car thing and just in the last couple of years got more interested in building PLUS flying. In the beginning of my RC plane interest was all about building planes and I could care less about flying. I think I'm still more interested in building than flying but I have reached a point that Ill have to advance with my flying skills if I want to advance my building skills especially when it comes to scale and warbirds.
After listening to you guys here is my plan. I think Ken is right about the BTE Venture. I had a 4*60 that could of been my first plane and I thought it flew easier than my LT40 did. I wish I wouldn't of sold it. But this today and what I'm planning is multi faceted and sort of confusing even to me. lol I have short and long term goals and hopefully I'm approaching this right.
First, finish the re-build of my LT-25 and fly the SNOT out of it!
Second, finish my BUSA Eindecker 90 build and set it aside. I have WAY too many hours and care into it just to take it out and dumb thumb it into the ground.
Kitbash a BTE Venture into some sort of warbird looking plane and I'm thinking olive drab Solartex covering with either British markings or Japanese like a Zero.
All the while, have a long term goal of building a very sweet plane that I can put on and take off the building board starting a year from now or so.
I realize that Ill have to start learning to use the rudder more often and that's not a problem. I'm a fast learner with above average hand eye coordination with a transmitter from my 17 years of racing cars. But all that means nothing if I get into a bind, so I'm hoping for a plane that is somewhat forgiving like a 4*. But I already knew that I was asking alot and there is most likely no such plane made. And that's why I tossed this question out here. There's some really smart and experienced guys here on RCU and it's nice to have a forum like this to bounce ideas around.
Although I have been building kits for many years, I am still a rookie when it comes to flying. I have probably 300 flights altogether and that started with Pico Sticks to a LT40 kit that I has somebody take off and land for me some ten years ago, then a lengthy hiatus for the car thing and just in the last couple of years got more interested in building PLUS flying. In the beginning of my RC plane interest was all about building planes and I could care less about flying. I think I'm still more interested in building than flying but I have reached a point that Ill have to advance with my flying skills if I want to advance my building skills especially when it comes to scale and warbirds.
After listening to you guys here is my plan. I think Ken is right about the BTE Venture. I had a 4*60 that could of been my first plane and I thought it flew easier than my LT40 did. I wish I wouldn't of sold it. But this today and what I'm planning is multi faceted and sort of confusing even to me. lol I have short and long term goals and hopefully I'm approaching this right.
First, finish the re-build of my LT-25 and fly the SNOT out of it!
Second, finish my BUSA Eindecker 90 build and set it aside. I have WAY too many hours and care into it just to take it out and dumb thumb it into the ground.
Kitbash a BTE Venture into some sort of warbird looking plane and I'm thinking olive drab Solartex covering with either British markings or Japanese like a Zero.
All the while, have a long term goal of building a very sweet plane that I can put on and take off the building board starting a year from now or so.
The venture is definitely a good one too. I have thought about getting one. You could always do it up in warbird colors and markings if you want.
I did a lot of research on that plane and is still high on my list. Thanks. Also the T-34 Mentor as Ken suggests is another one I like.
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ORIGINAL: mike31
How do you land without using the rudder? Crosswind landings demand rudder. Learn, my son, learn.
How do you land without using the rudder? Crosswind landings demand rudder. Learn, my son, learn.
I use rudder Mike, it's just I haven't had a plane yet that required leading in with the rudder in the same direction as the bank. The plane would either crab or nose dive pretty hard. In fact, I dunno if I'm doing something wrong or not, but sometimes I use opposing rudder ever so slightly.
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I have an older version of Real Flight, 3.5 that I hardly use and just for grins I tried several of the planes that I flew the most. The Yak 54 is by far the easiest plane for me to fly. But that's understandable being it's a slow flying plane that reacts well. My second choice is what was suggested by several of yall, the Spacewalker! It feels like a 4*. I also like the Cessna 182. It flys well and looks cool.
I'm about to try a Bipe. I like WW1 planes a lot!
I'm about to try a Bipe. I like WW1 planes a lot!