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#2601
You have it right. I started off with Butyrate, so could not use nitrate, but on the door I started with Nitrate and finished with Butyrate.
#2603
What's the benefit of using Koverall over Natural Solartex if your going to paint the plane? Solartex has glue on it and the weave is already filled. The only thing I can think of is the Solartex painted would weight more then Koverall.
#2604
The differences, other than the method of adhering the covering to the airframe, would be the grain or weave of the fabric... the koverall has a different weave to it than the natural solartex... the benefits would all depend entirely on how you finished it...i.e if you want to fill in the fabric weave or have it show through... from what Ace was saying that stits lite poly fabric is even better than the koverall.
John M,
John M,
#2606
Well I'm no expert in using koverall, but from what I've read, it takes a few more coats to fill the weave than solaretx... and you have to be careful not to push the sealer coat through the weave of the fabric over the open bays (spraying is best)... I have a sample pack of solatex that BalsaUSA sent me, and the natural solartex has a tighter weave than koverall, so the solartex will take less to fill the weave... now based on the stits system and after seeing Aces pitts... the stits gives a nice scale appearance to the finished product... and acdii's 1/5 cub covered in koverall, looks great too, so you just have to find what tickles you, and go with it... back in my early days, silk span and dope was the thing to use, and it looked fantastic finished, but it has a limited life span and becomes fragile and tears easily; you can put your finger thought it if you're not careful, especially if its aged.
John M,
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No one is arguing, simply stating facts. What one is willing to do is what product they will use. Koverall requires much more work than Stits, Stits requires much more work than raw Solartex, raw Solartex requires more work than painted Solartex, painted Solartex is easier than 21st Century, 21st Century is easier than mono/ultra/any plastic...... There, now pick which stage and expense you are willing to put forth......
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Yea, but if you can't spray paint you can't use raw anything. Knowing what is what and how it works is the real info, not partial statements of which is best to me/you or whomever. I love starting raw, but I can do all the stages in-between. And I also know how many coats it takes to fill the weave to which stage of finish of any fabric. Example, Koverall takes 6 for a smooth finish whereas Stits is 3 coats. A Cub is less filled than a Stearman and a Waco is different than either of those. A lot of variables in any method to state which is best, but rather which can I and which will I.
#2611
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No one is arguing, simply stating facts. What one is willing to do is what product they will use. Koverall requires much more work than Stits, Stits requires much more work than raw Solartex, raw Solartex requires more work than painted Solartex, painted Solartex is easier than 21st Century, 21st Century is easier than mono/ultra/any plastic...... There, now pick which stage and expense you are willing to put forth......
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#2613
No one is arguing, simply stating facts. What one is willing to do is what product they will use. Koverall requires much more work than Stits, Stits requires much more work than raw Solartex, raw Solartex requires more work than painted Solartex, painted Solartex is easier than 21st Century, 21st Century is easier than mono/ultra/any plastic...... There, now pick which stage and expense you are willing to put forth......
#2614
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One question though. How easily does Poly-Lite form around curves? Would one use the same heat/stretch method that works W/Solartex?
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I like Koverall but will try Stits once my Koverall supply 'dwindles' a bit. You can't easily spray Koverall to seal the weave (I've not used a HVLP gun for this, maybe it will work?) for the dope just blows thru the fabric. I use a tip given to me by Nigel Tarvin of Tarvin Model Products to roll the nitrate onto the fabric. The same care must be used to keep it from pooling so just 'paint' while holding the surface above self and let gravity assist. Roll elsewhere to 'dry' the roller then go 'pick up' excess dope so it won't pool. Don't use foam roller.
I'm almost finished with Taylor J-2 and will post some pics.
I'm almost finished with Taylor J-2 and will post some pics.
#2621
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Stits is looking more & more attractive once all of the factors are weighed.
Solartex is way over priced IMO.
Over $60 just for fabric to cover a 1/5 scale J-3 & probably another $20 in paint? Too expensive for me.
Solartex is way over priced IMO.
Over $60 just for fabric to cover a 1/5 scale J-3 & probably another $20 in paint? Too expensive for me.
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[QUOTE=Cub Man;118711Q
That's the not so old stuff! I have a roll of the old stuff! You must say exactly what you mean when speaking to us old guys! LOL!
There, consider yourself 'old schooled'!
Da bird.
That's the not so old stuff! I have a roll of the old stuff! You must say exactly what you mean when speaking to us old guys! LOL!
There, consider yourself 'old schooled'!
Da bird.
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[QUOTE=bigbird3;11871615][QUOTE=Cub Man;118711Q
That's the not so old stuff! I have a roll of the old stuff! You must say exactly what you mean when speaking to us old guys! LOL!
There, consider yourself 'old schooled'!
Da bird.[/QUOTE]
Hey now. I have been in the hobby over 20 years now. I always remember it with the iron on type.
That's the not so old stuff! I have a roll of the old stuff! You must say exactly what you mean when speaking to us old guys! LOL!
There, consider yourself 'old schooled'!
Da bird.[/QUOTE]
Hey now. I have been in the hobby over 20 years now. I always remember it with the iron on type.