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Old 07-16-2012, 03:10 PM
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Default New kit for a Saito 56?

While I am hording kits, I am looking ahead.

I prefer a relaxing type plane that's not hot, scale looking would be a plus, tail dragger would be a plus and it's free!

Ok, Ill be serious. I have done the 4*40 and would considering another one, but I have a 4*60 on the board right now. IMO, the 60 is a MUCH better plane. Considered the Midstar and the Tiger II, but both are trikes and I would rather shy away from a lot of mods on this build and would like something a little more scale looking.

I would consider a Cub, but that has been done a lot at my field.

I'm leaning towards the BUSA Pup, but I'm a little worried about my flying skills since I only have about 200 flights under my belt and I think this plane might be a handful with the short tail moment and all. Building it wouldn't be a problem, so I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks in advance.
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Default RE: New kit for a Saito 56?

I had a Pete n Poke with a 56 on it. Good match.
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Have you ever had a J-3 Cub? Try a Hangar 9 Cub 40 with a 12x6 prop. It flies very realistically, which also means that you have to dive to get it to loop...

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Have you ever had a J-3 Cub? Try a Hangar 9 Cub 40 with a 12x6 prop. It flies very realistically, which also means that you have to dive to get it to loop...

Bob
Isn't that an ARF Bob?
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Gary, you're right... you did ask for a kit. But if you are in the J-3 mode I had heard that the Goldberg Anniversary Cub went together well
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXYXF6&P=ML

And, also the Sig was singled out as having a nice flyer. They also have at least two "Anniversary Cub's" They'be both at the same link.
The Sig RC3 kit is 1/6 Scale at http://www.sigmfg.com/cgi-bin/dpsmar...FV5.html?E+Sig 71" WS for about $85
The Sig RC82 kit is 1/5 Scale at http://www.sigmfg.com/cgi-bin/dpsmar...FV5.html?E+Sig with a 84" WS and costs about $223 (kinda pricey)

If you do decide to go for a Cub, you'll want it somewhat scale so look for one with barn door ailerons. Some of the kits have strip ailerons and aren't that scale. Oops, I just noticed that the Goldberg may have strip ailerons. Download the construction manual to check this out.

Check out what other people say about these kits as well. I haven't actually built one (though I do build kits) so I can't comment. Just tossing out ideas.

There are also Citabrias, Taylorcraft, and even an Aeronca around if you look.

Sorry about the first miscue. Just tossing out a few ideas. I love my Cub (albeit an ARF) but the flying is what makes the difference.

Just putting in my $.02

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I love my Sig 1/5 scale cub. The Saito 56 would be a very scale powerplant for it. The Pete'n'poke would be a very relaxing flyer also, and would be a fun kit to detail
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Taube 40

http://shop.balsausa.com/product_p/439.htm

These you don't see everyday, and they are great fliers.
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The Taube and Cub are both great, the Sig is a very fun build and it's built like a tank, a very strong wing! Ground handling with a Cub can be a thrill until you have taken it off a few times, Cubs do like to ground loop but they land very easy.
Both are a good choice forf your engine too.
Look around and find something you really like.
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While I am hording kits, I am looking ahead.

I prefer a relaxing type plane that's not hot, scale looking would be a plus, tail dragger would be a plus and it's free!

I'm leaning towards the BUSA Pup, but I'm a little worried about my flying skills since I only have about 200 flights under my belt and I think this plane might be a handful with the short tail moment and all. Building it wouldn't be a problem, so I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks in advance.
Have you ever seen a Pup fly. Built and balanced correctly you have to rub and sweet talk them pretty hard to make them do anything wierd or wild. It may be short coupled but its not GeeBee short coupled. You have to look at the whole package. Like any plane almost, keep the control throws in reason and stay off the gas if you have too much motor and you'll basically have a biplane Cub.

At your stage with several kits under your belt, the Pup would be a perfect candidate for your requirements. If you can handle a 4*40 then I say go for it. Its a much better flyer (not to mention better looking) than the Taube. However, if monoplane WWI types are your thing then also look at the Top Flite Elder 40. A very nice flying "scale like" plane.

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I'm definitly leaning towards the Pup.
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How about a Great Planes Old Timer 40? Tail dragger, sorta old time scale looking, high wing, 73" wingspan, designed as a 3 channel but EZ to make as a 4 channel. This is a discontinued kit but one is for sale on "fleabay" now.
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I can't do ebay.
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Two thumbs up on Sopwith Pup!
Mine flies with a saito .56 great!
Joe
Here's my maiden!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMKql9hcMGw
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My friend flies a Taube, what a funky looking plane.  Looks like a bird diving.   It suffers from flutter at high speeds though. Sounds like a flag flapping in a strong wind. 

I had built the CG Cub a long time ago and it was a very nice kit, just never got to fly it.    If you weren't looking for scale, the Kadet LT40 with a modified wing and landing gear makes for a fun relaxing plane.  Since I don't know if that is a 56 2 stroke or 4 stroke you refer to, it may be too much engine.  I have a 1" dihedral, tail dragger configuration on mine running an OS .52 4 stroke.  It flies great, has good vertical on take off, with the right prop it does some pretty nice tricks.  I like to fly it upside down, then push forward to an inside half loop and then pull up into a hammerhead.  Leaves a pretty nice smoke trail. Also does some great corkscrews.  
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Gary, after watching Joe maiden his Pup all I can say is you need one!!!! I don't recall how many Bipes I have built but I can say not one of mine maidened that well. I was always swearing and hitting trim switches on them. Plus I always waited for a calmer day. I like a bit of wind but on a maiden I like to wait until it is a helping breeze. Buy the kit!!!
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Default RE: New kit for a Saito 56?

An Astro Hog would be good, Hog Bipe would be marginal on a .56, or the Great Planes Cub would be great. You coud do it in military or L-4 scheme to be unique. 
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Two thumbs up on Sopwith Pup!
Mine flies with a saito .56 great!
Joe
Here's my maiden!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMKql9hcMGw

Joe, I watched your vid several times before I posted this thread. Very nice!

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Gary, after watching Joe maiden his Pup all I can say is you need one!!!! I don't recall how many Bipes I have built but I can say not one of mine maidened that well. I was always swearing and hitting trim switches on them. Plus I always waited for a calmer day. I like a bit of wind but on a maiden I like to wait until it is a helping breeze. Buy the kit!!!
Got it ordered Gene.

Ill cover it with Solartex and go from there. Thanks guys.
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I built the Taube also....love the way it looks, hate the way it flies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvQ_7v_TTro

Stick to the Pup...you'll be happy! Lots more room for your engine and it flies great! Now I fly it on low wind days and have a great time!

ENJOY the build!
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Default RE: New kit for a Saito 56?

The pup is on the way Joe. I might start a build thread after I finish my 4* 60.

Thanks man.
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The pup is on the way Joe. I might start a build thread after I finish my 4* 60.

Thanks man.
I would love to see a build thread, but its your choice

Jason
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ORIGINAL: jodini

I built the Taube also....love the way it looks, hate the way it flies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvQ_7v_TTro

Stick to the Pup...you'll be happy! Lots more room for your engine and it flies great! Now I fly it on low wind days and have a great time!

ENJOY the build!
Joe

Yep, looks like it flys like crap to me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just what is it you don't like Joe? I almost bought the plans during air age 50% off sale over the 4th and I was going to go electric too.
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Default RE: New kit for a Saito 56?

It seemed like it flew too much like a flat wing plane...the Taube that is. It flew like a GWS stick. I think I need to add some down thrust.

The Pup flies like the rest of my planes. Predictable and fun. Also, I went electric on the taube which is great for looks, but it makes my flights pretty short.

Joe

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