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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Robert, there's one on each side and it's the outside of thewing hardwood mounts.I tried to shape them so the would't be so noticeable.
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    One side of the plane complete! It took almost two cans to get the rivets I needed as shown in the pic. I have been at it since 5:30 this morning... Determined to get it done. Here's what it looks like.
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Now thats a labor of love. Looking GREAT Vince. Why didn't you spend the day watching the inauguration instead? Na, this is a better payoff!

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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Awesome VJ. What are you using to punch the rivets out of the Coke can?
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Steve I took a piece of 2-56 rod and ground one endconvex (the shape of the rivet). You can see a photo of it in previous posts. (See post #913)
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    That looks really good,
    You can stamp me out about 500 4-40 rivets for my Waco

    Do they seem to be adhering well with just a touch of the soldering iron?
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Sure Anthony I'll get the minions working on that...LOL

    The rivets seem to be sticking better with the method that I am using now which is holding down the head of the rivet with my left hand using the tip ofan X-acto knife and in the right hand holding the soldering iron. A couple have fallen off but not many. They can be reattatched easily. I just hope they don't blow off while I'm spraying!
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Vincent it is looking great. Why can't you use a drop of clear coat to help glue them on?
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Since you are spraying at low pressure I think you will be ok. I would maybe hold back a ways and spary a light mist coat and let that sit a few then give it a better base coat.

    I will be making rivets for my Waco. I think I can take a Dremel tool and a soft abrasive and lightly hit the glue drops on the ailerons and put the new rivets in place.
    Later!!
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    So why not use the real thing??? You can get rivets in just about any size(1/32" dia increases) you want with any(just about) head shape you need and in aluminum or steel. I haven't applied them yet but I was going to make a template with approriate spacing and dremel the holes for the shank end.
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    My hat is off to you Vincent. Great looking build. Thanks for the tips along the way.

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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Thanks VJ. Yes he was smiling all over!!!. (He still is!)
    My build is making steady progress although not as rapid as yours.
    You may remember that I was modifying the wheel pants so they would become a solid construction since I was using
    Robart Robostruts. Well they have turned out ok and have been sanded and prepped ready for colour coat. Still got to fit the fairings
    on the tailfeathers and then apply colour finish coats to all surfaces. Once that's done then cockpit and windscreen details will be addressed.
    I will post some photo's when I have finished the colour spraying. Might be a wee while though due to fine summer weather and
    lots of flying being the order of the day.

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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    paddcat1, the reason I didn't want to use them is because drilling as many holes so close together would weaken my air frame. To keep the structural integrity of the plane I thought it best to not drill any holes, besides when done I can say - " and you see those one million rivets they're all hand made" ! LOL

    akbowen, thank you for following this thread!

    cavoodle, that's right you lucky dog or should I say Dingo,I forgot it's summertime in your part of the world! I don't blame you for putting the build on the back burner for awhile...
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Just wanted to show a photo of the Ryan STA that I built. Certainly did not go into the detail that's called for in the plans but it does look good and flys great with the SuperTigre .90 for power.
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Very nice job on your Ryan fcabarle. How long did it take you to complete?
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Thanks for the compliment. It took about two months of steady work to get it together. There were two parts of the kit that I thought could be better; first is all of the plastic, especially the cowl and wheelpants. Today I would purchase the aftermarket fiberglass cowl and pants. The other was the flying wires, Sig privides thin aluminum strips. I imagine that they are scale replicas but I don't like to glue aluminum to anything so I used twisted wires.
    I might mention that with subsequent kits I chose not to hinge the ailerons as shown in the plans. The plastic 'make your own' hinges eventually loosen,crack or break. So to simplify things I removed 1/16" from the top trailing edge and installed Robart hinges. Works great and no one at the field could see what I did. I did not build them with all the scale details but they still look good and fly great. Yes, I built three of these kits and have a fourth already 'in the bones'.

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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Holy cow two months! That was quick, especially for this model. Well done...

    Good news! I should have the riveting completed tomorrow evening if everything goes as planned. I got a huge section done this evening. This is something that you get quicker at as you go along. I will still have to apply rivets tothe cowl, but that's a project all by itself. I am waiting for my tapes and stitching to arrive so I can't finish the tail. Can you smell what I smell, yup that's paint...very soon.
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    FCABARLE,
    Nice looking STA, sounds like you really like them.

    VJ,
    Sounds like you have a rythem going on the rivets. It is really going to look good when the paint goes down.

    I heard from Gary and Ken about the tapes and stitching for my bird so you should see your stuff soon.
    Later!!
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Sorry VJ you got that wrong. There are no Dingo's snakes, crocodiles, alligators or bears in New Zealand, they're all in Australia.
    Keep up the good work.

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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    What tape/stitching are you using? I have seen the glue w/pinking tape used, but I am wondering if you have something else in mind?
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Dave, I'm using tapes from Gary at Pink-it http://www.pink-it.net/and for the rib stitching I'm using thishttp://www.personainternet.com/scaleribstitch/. I have used these products before and they are hard to beat and very user friendly.
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Ok for the most partI think the rivets are done. There are still afew that need to be attatched around some of the cowling/fairing area once the taping is completed. Without better pictures of the plane that you are modeling it's hard to be sure if all the details such as rivets are accurate. I did the bestI could with the information that was available to me...
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Bravo!!!!
    My hats off to you VJ, that really looks good.
    Later!!
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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    Kudos...........that is fantastic!. I can't wait to see this thing finished. Once again I applaud your efforts in taking the time to upload the photos to share with us, and letting us watch. Nice work.

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    RE: Sig Ryan STA

    I think you have reached the point where I am afraid for you to fly that plane!

    Great job on the rivets!

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