FlyerInOKC

My Feedback: (6)

Oh, I want to see a video of that flight!

buzzard bait

People who put flaps on Seniors, LT-40s, etc. seem to enjoy them so why not?
I wouldn’t worry about getting the servos centered on the surfaces. Just compare it with a single servo in the center with torque rods working the ailerons, which work quite well. Also consider elevator controls where the horn is never at the center of the control surface. When I install aileron servos in the wing I keep them in pretty close in so I don’t need servo extension wires; also, I like to keep the extremities of my planes light, so no servos far out in the wings.

soarrich

My Feedback: (98)

I'm going to be starting my Super LT-40, as soon as I finish dopeing my grandson's Kadet Sr. My plan is to use the aileron stock off the LT-40 on half the wing, while using 2" TE stock to make flaps on the inner half of the wing. I'm going to use 4 servos in the wing so I can do flaps with crow. I haven't decided yet if it's going to be powered with an OS 120 4C or a 20cc gasser yet.

BigTeeEldorado

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trdw9GVbq2E&feature=youtu.be

FlyerInOKC

My Feedback: (6)

Now that is a cool video Tony!!!

BigTeeEldorado

Wish I had been there to actually be the cameraman. It's 2010 Valdez Alaska STOL Competition

Sport_Pilot

lt-40? Not!

BigTeeEldorado

I don't Know!! With a 20cc gasser in an LT-40 with Flaps that very well could happen!!

Sport_Pilot

That is a much larger plane and a large motor will do nothing for a short landing. In fact the added weight would be detrimental.

soarrich

My Feedback: (98)

I'm reusing the wing and tail feathers, but I'm making a simpler/lighter fuse so I don't think it will weigh much more, it won't be a trainer anymore though.

FlyerInOKC

My Feedback: (6)

It's not like you wanted to have a trainer when you were done.

SPACE COWBOY

Hi Guys and Girls! I have a little something to post here for your consideration. I have a NIB Jamara Ford Flivver ARF for sale here in the RCU scale classified ads. I'd like to trade it for a Sig Kadet Senior ARF or kit-built Senior with ailerons and tail-dragger set up. I hope this is OK to post here. My eyes aren't what they used to be, and the Flivver, (cool as it is!) is a little on the small size for these old eyes! I'll add to the trade for the right Kadet! (the bigger the better!) Thanks in advance!

soarrich

My Feedback: (98)

I started a thread on the SR I'm building, I got side tracked but now I'm on it until it's finished.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/kit-...ilk-doped.html

skylark-flier

Yeah, I've been following your thread. I like the idea of the stringers on the fuse.

Dwayne

A Kadet covered with silk and dope. Wow, just wow.

Shere-Khan

Ok so here I go... I need some knowledge from the experienced. I have an O.S. 160FX sitting around with nothing to put it in. I also have been wanting to do a large scale Kadet. I originally thought of doing a 200% Kadet Senior (you know, the bigger the better), but I know that a lot of people have done this and to be honest my favorite rc plane of all time is the Kadet Mark II. I always thought that double the plane, double the engine. Over the last few years I've learned that that's absolutely not true. So with a lack of mathematical engineering skills, my question is, what size wingspan do you think I can go to for a Mark II with the 160 engine?

Hydro Junkie

For starters, you have to look at the MKII and what engine it is designed for, a .25 to .40 with it's 57.25" wingspan
Using your double double, that would mean a 400% or roughly 230" wingspan. Don't know about anyone else but that sounds a bit too large to be practical. You might consider a 150% (roughly 170") as a maximum size. I say this since the JR, with a 48" span, is rated for a .15-.25

flyingagin

If you double the the size, the wing area is 4x, and the wing volume is 8x's. So there is a ton of lift there. The down side is if you just double all of the structure you now have 8x the weight. So you do need to reengineer the plane a lot! Doubling a small plane is not a big deal, but it does need to be reengineered to control the wight. But that is not that hard. Starting with a bigger plane could certainly be done, would just need a lot of thinking and planning.

Hey Hydro, I have swapped a ST. .34 into a Jr. It is a real kick. Just moved the battery a bit to balance. Just watch out for the torque on a low real slow flyby, It is enough to get you into trouble if you are silly enough to just goose the throttle to full. Fantastic climb. The .34 does increase the fun factor though.
I also swapped a .40 into a Jr. Had to add tail wight. Insane climb. But the torque is just ridiculous. Not so much fun, at all.

Ken

Hydro Junkie

I'm working on a pair, on and off, of JRs. One gets a 25FP with a 9X6 with a lowered dihedral, the other gets a 35 with an extended flat wing and floats. I figure the larger engine will help with the added weight and drag of a 6" longer wing and a pair if Edos

flyingagin

Hydro. that sounds just about right to me. Should be a real joy to fly.
I have suspended (temporarily) all airplane work. I have just had to much other stuff to do, like building fences and other house maintenance. Still work on the repairs from a house flood after a pipe failed under mom's bathroom vanity.
Hope to get back to building this winter.
I have a new set of wings framed up for my Jr. Plug in wings so that I can change the dihedral and go low wing, by just changing the joiner.

Would live to see a 4 stroke on a Jr. .30 siato?

Ken

Sport_Pilot

Engine displacement is to the cube so for a 2X model then the engine displacement should be 2 to the cube or 8 times the displacement. So for a double model with a .25 that would be 2 cubic inches. or with a .4 3.2 cubic inch's and that is for glow sizes, even larger for gas. So the size for a 1.6 with the equivalent performance of a .4 would be, about 1.58 x the wingspan or about 91 inches. I calculated as desired engine size over smaller model desired size to the cube root times the original wing size. Or in this case cube root of 1.6/.25 * 57.25.

acdii

Oh NOOOOO!!!!

Math!

Sport_Pilot

Very simple math.

Dave Swanson

Please add me to the Kadet Brotherhood. The Kadet was my first RC kit 36 years ago and it served me very well.

skylark-flier

Absolutely! Glad to see another brother checking in. Welcome back into RC (saw your PM) after a 30-yr lay-off, RCU and the SIG Kadet Brotherhood!! Got #212 set for you.

And, here's the SIG Kadet Brotherhood, as I've got it today:

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[TD]67[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]beevo[/TD]
[TD]142[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]ratshooter[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]68[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]Lowvoltage[/TD]
[TD]143[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]Steve Westphal[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]69[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]skylark-flier[/TD]
[TD]144[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]cforcht
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]70[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]hugh durden[/TD]
[TD]145[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]kb8ife[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]71[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]Cloud Cruiser[/TD]
[TD]146[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]rburke39[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]72[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]SIGPlanes[/TD]
[TD]147[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]rc56[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]73[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]rexperk[/TD]
[TD]148[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]redjack[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]74[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]M. Boesen[/TD]
[TD]149[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]rdgettler[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]75[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]whatwheel[/TD]
[TD]150[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]daddyvinny[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]