Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Airplanes > Kit Building
Reload this Page >

SIG Kadet MK II Build

Community
Search
Notices
Kit Building If you're building a kit and have questions or want to discuss kit building post it here.

SIG Kadet MK II Build

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-20-2014, 05:24 AM
  #226  
FlyerInOKC
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,152
Received 272 Likes on 237 Posts
Default

Hey Don, I was going to give you a hard time about getting something in the air but I'm not sure there is a local club that isn't still waiting for their field to dry out.

Mike
Old 06-20-2014, 05:37 AM
  #227  
FlyerInOKC
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,152
Received 272 Likes on 237 Posts
Default

Guys, did anyone besides me see the article on the Kadet Senior Sport EG ARF in the new issue of Model Aviation?
Old 07-01-2014, 07:34 AM
  #228  
FlyerInOKC
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,152
Received 272 Likes on 237 Posts
Default

So Don anything new to report or have you been spending all your time like I have trying to keep the grass mowed with all the rain we have been having?
Old 07-01-2014, 05:03 PM
  #229  
DBD1
Thread Starter
 
DBD1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: OKC
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Yeah Mike, that's part of it among several other things, so no I haven't made any more progress although I really want to. Unfortunately I am probably going to be pretty well tied up for at least the next several weeks, but hopefully I can sneak in a few short building sessions.
Old 07-02-2014, 06:21 AM
  #230  
FlyerInOKC
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,152
Received 272 Likes on 237 Posts
Default

I keep saying I am going to work on the 182 this weekend but I haven't been able to. Between the recovery from my surgery and having a 10 month old in the house I just haven't got around to working on it. I know exactly what I want to do but haven't done it. I am about to order the vinyl decals I need to make it a CAP airplane. I am using Decal-it he does good work. Delivery time varies, he has a day job.
Old 10-29-2014, 06:44 AM
  #231  
skylark-flier
 
skylark-flier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: VA, Luray
Posts: 2,226
Received 15 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

Hey Don!! Any progress on the Kadet?
Old 11-12-2014, 12:56 PM
  #232  
DBD1
Thread Starter
 
DBD1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: OKC
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by skylark-flier
Hey Don!! Any progress on the Kadet?
Unfortunately, none. Between projects around the house, a few other priorities and the Doctors cuttin' on me, I didn't have the time or the money most of the past 4 or 5 months. Sometimes life just gets in the way! I was hoping we would have a nice long fall but the polar express has already moved in. I sure wasn't ready for it to get this cold this early. On the bright side though, it should allow me to have more time in the shop. I have started cleaning the shop up, it was a disaster after the summer projects. Now I just need to get my head back into the build and get going.
Old 11-13-2014, 07:07 AM
  #233  
FlyerInOKC
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,152
Received 272 Likes on 237 Posts
Default

Its good to here from you Don! I hope you are on the mend!

Mike
Old 01-06-2015, 01:48 PM
  #234  
DBD1
Thread Starter
 
DBD1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: OKC
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I hope you guys haven't given up on me. Life took me on a few detours this past year, but I haven't given up. I want to thank everyone that has participated in this thread. I really appreciate the advise, opinions, tips, and compliments given. Y'all a great bunch of guys.

Finally got my head back into the build and ready to move forward on it. Today I marked out and cut the slot for the vert stab and could not help but mock-up the tail feathers.



Now I need to cut the slot for the rudder pushrod and wrap my head around gluing the stabs on correctly.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0399.JPG
Views:	661
Size:	2.15 MB
ID:	2061695   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0400.JPG
Views:	622
Size:	2.22 MB
ID:	2061696  
Old 01-06-2015, 02:45 PM
  #235  
gene6029
 
gene6029's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: wilson, NC
Posts: 1,219
Likes: 0
Received 20 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

Your work looks clean & precise. Glad to see you back on the build.....Gene
Old 01-07-2015, 03:36 AM
  #236  
skylark-flier
 
skylark-flier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: VA, Luray
Posts: 2,226
Received 15 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

Alright! Back in business!!!!! Welcome back to the balsa dustbin!
Old 01-07-2015, 05:23 AM
  #237  
FlyerInOKC
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,152
Received 272 Likes on 237 Posts
Default

Those tail feathers look good, glad to have you back!
Old 01-09-2015, 08:38 AM
  #238  
bchapman
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 280
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by DBD1
I hope you guys haven't given up on me. Life took me on a few detours this past year, but I haven't given up. I want to thank everyone that has participated in this thread. I really appreciate the advise, opinions, tips, and compliments given. Y'all a great bunch of guys.

Finally got my head back into the build and ready to move forward on it. Today I marked out and cut the slot for the vert stab and could not help but mock-up the tail feathers.



Now I need to cut the slot for the rudder pushrod and wrap my head around gluing the stabs on correctly.

Glad you're back on the build. I know how it goes with things getting in the way of building. We have a 5 month old now, but I've still managed to work on a PT-40 for my son.

I forgot that I was going to post some pictures of my Kadet Mark II covered with Koverall and dope. I'll try and do that tonight when I get home.

Brian
Old 01-09-2015, 08:54 AM
  #239  
bchapman
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 280
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Deleted Duplicate Post

Last edited by bchapman; 01-09-2015 at 08:55 AM. Reason: Deleted Duplicate Post
Old 01-09-2015, 01:41 PM
  #240  
DBD1
Thread Starter
 
DBD1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: OKC
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I did find a little time to lay out and cut the pushrod slot today. I hope it is large enough. I guess I should do a complete assembly of all the gear (after I glue the stabs on) to ensure nothing is binding before I begin to cover/finish anything.



The extra time and trouble I took on the wing and horiz stab saddles (post #114) is paying off now as the wing and horiz stab line up nicely and easily in the same plane. Everything fits together nicely with no fuss.

Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0401.JPG
Views:	534
Size:	1.78 MB
ID:	2062540   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0403.JPG
Views:	575
Size:	1.78 MB
ID:	2062551  
Old 01-09-2015, 01:56 PM
  #241  
FlyerInOKC
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,152
Received 272 Likes on 237 Posts
Default

Slot looks about right to me, what kind of pushrod are you using?

Mike
Old 01-09-2015, 02:11 PM
  #242  
DBD1
Thread Starter
 
DBD1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: OKC
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
Slot looks about right to me, what kind of pushrod are you using?

Mike
Hey Mike.
Just like shown on the plans.

Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0378.JPG
Views:	727
Size:	2.78 MB
ID:	2062552  
Old 01-09-2015, 03:33 PM
  #243  
FlyerInOKC
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,152
Received 272 Likes on 237 Posts
Default

If you want to dress the slot up I think its DuBro makes and exit you could use. I think I have a pair somewhere.
Old 01-10-2015, 02:13 AM
  #244  
skylark-flier
 
skylark-flier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: VA, Luray
Posts: 2,226
Received 15 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

The pushrods were practically the only thing that I actually changed for my Mk-II. I've never trusted balsa pushrods, made mine out of 1/4" dowels. Otherwise, just like the plans - they work great. The Dubro pushrod exits are wonderful. They really do "finish" the slot.

Your bird's looking good Don. Just remember, only 21 more snowfalls 'til Spring. (LOL)

Old 01-10-2015, 04:30 AM
  #245  
TomCrump
 
TomCrump's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Traverse City, MI
Posts: 7,614
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by skylark-flier
The pushrods were practically the only thing that I actually changed for my Mk-II. I've never trusted balsa pushrods, made mine out of 1/4" dowels. Otherwise, just like the plans - they work great. The Dubro pushrod exits are wonderful. They really do "finish" the slot.

Your bird's looking good Don. Just remember, only 21 more snowfalls 'til Spring. (LOL)


I was thinking the same, about the pushrods, but was hesitant to speak up, not knowing DBD1's experience level.

I would suggest using hardware store dowel rod, instead of the balsa.

The balsa pushrods will probably suffice. Sig has been selling these kits for years. The system must work.

Experience has me wanting to make a change however, but I seldom follow the instructions. LOL

Last edited by TomCrump; 01-10-2015 at 04:32 AM.
Old 01-10-2015, 08:43 PM
  #246  
skylark-flier
 
skylark-flier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: VA, Luray
Posts: 2,226
Received 15 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

Yeah, only reason I mentioned it was that when I built my first Kadet (1973) I broke one of the rods and had to glue it back together - lasted 40 years then, right up to last December (2013) when I retired her. But, I also broke a rod when I built my CG Sr. Falcon (1974) - replaced them with dowels, plane's still flying with them. Now, I'm restoring an old CG Eaglet and in the process of taking it apart for repairs I broke BOTH balsa rods. Needless to say, they're being replaced with dowels.

Y'er right, most kits have the balsa rods and they seem to work just fine for 99% of the guys out there, but I have ZERO luck with them.

Oh, yeah - just for giggles, pics of the Eaglet as it was when I started and as it is right now:

Just something to keep me busy while I wait for Spring planting.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	100_1823-fuse-trimmed-25pct.jpg
Views:	552
Size:	126.8 KB
ID:	2062867   Click image for larger version

Name:	100_1839-all-together.jpg
Views:	567
Size:	126.1 KB
ID:	2062868  
Old 01-11-2015, 05:38 AM
  #247  
spaceworm
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Guilford, CT
Posts: 3,950
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

My old Mk I with MK II wing has balsa PR. I am going to refit it with carbon fiber arrow shafts I got at Wally World a couple of years ago for a couple bucks each. I since moved and I haven't seen them at the local store, or even online for that price. I recently picked up some 1/4 inch dia by 30 inch long bamboo "smores" sticks, for $1.00 for 6 at Ocean State. I may try them on the Kadet and save the arrow shafts for a more demanding use. The bamboo is stiffer and stronger than balsa, and equal. I think, to dowel.

Cold and snowy here, and my "shop" isn't heated, so am not building much now. Happy New Year to All.
Sincerely, Richard
Cub Brotherhood #187; Sig 1/4 (Koverall/dope), Zenoah G23 ECDI; H9 100 inch (Gen 1) (Solartex/?),YS F120; GB Anniv Cub (NIB)
Club Saito #635; Saito 56, 100, 120abc, 130T, 180
Kadet Brotherhood #96; Mk I /II Kadet, Saito FA 56; Kadet Junior, (RIP)
Sig Kougar, Sig 1/4 Cub, Sig 1/4 Spacewalker II
Carl Goldberg Tiger Club Member # 81
Old 01-11-2015, 08:42 AM
  #248  
DBD1
Thread Starter
 
DBD1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: OKC
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TomCrump
I was thinking the same, about the pushrods, but was hesitant to speak up, not knowing DBD1's experience level.

I would suggest using hardware store dowel rod, instead of the balsa.

The balsa pushrods will probably suffice. Sig has been selling these kits for years. The system must work.

Experience has me wanting to make a change however, but I seldom follow the instructions. LOL
Tom, you are more than welcome to comment at any time. Wet behind the ears and green would be pretty accurate descriptions of my experience level. I haven't even flown yet but I sure am enjoying building, and am already looking forward to the next one.

In the future I will use something other than balsa for pushrods. For the Kadet however, I had already made them up out of 5/16 square balsa. I was concerned about the amount they would flex, so I cut some carbon fiber strips and used thin CA to attach them to two perpendicular sides of each pushrod, which stiffened them up considerably.

Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0404.JPG
Views:	532
Size:	3.41 MB
ID:	2062943  
Old 01-11-2015, 10:05 AM
  #249  
TomCrump
 
TomCrump's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Traverse City, MI
Posts: 7,614
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

I just didn't want to over complicate your build.

Sometimes the more experienced tend to suggest things that me be simple for us, but a nightmare for a beginner. Since I feel that the balsa pushrod is time tested, I chose not to speak up.

Your mods should improve the stiffness immensely. If you encounter problems down the road, it won't be difficult to install dowel pushrods as replacements.

Dave obviously thought it was best to speak up right away. I certainly don't object to his decision.

As you will soon discover, there are several methods to accomplish our goals in this hobby. My instruction methods may be a little different than Dave's, but rest assured, we're both looking out for your best interests.
Old 01-11-2015, 11:21 AM
  #250  
DBD1
Thread Starter
 
DBD1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: OKC
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks guys. I appreciate all of the input.

Dave, the rebuild of the Eaglet is looking good. Neat looking airplane. Is it about a .25 size?


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.