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Old 05-08-2014, 02:21 PM
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Yes, that is correct. I can't remember who the pilot was or the country,(when you get old sometimes you forget stuff) but the personal markings were left on the plane and the roundels and rudder were overpainted with German markings. There is some pretty good information in "Nieuports in Action" and also the Windsock Data File on Niueport Fighters.
That looks cool being a bit different, I did a search and found this.
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Nice Dr1 wings 2and3, have you got any more? keep the pics coming guys!

That gathering at old Rhinebeck sounds great, I see you are in NY like Granpooba, are you planning to go? It would be great to see some of the planes here in the same photos flying around.
The only other NY on the list is lazyace.
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Please sign me up for the brotherhood....I'm BUSA true blue and those WW1 birds are all I fly. Favorite part of the Rhinebeck Jamboree is planning what kit I'm taking home....thx.
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Nice Dr1 wings 2and3, have you got any more? keep the pics coming guys!

That gathering at old Rhinebeck sounds great, I see you are in NY like Granpooba, are you planning to go? It would be great to see some of the planes here in the same photos flying around.
The only other NY on the list is lazyace.
Rhinebeck Jamboree 2013 Half Scale Fokker Dr1 & Nieuport 28
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Hi Brothers, currently on the bench 1/4 scale se5, Flying nieuport 28 all electric, will post some pics when I get home
so... sign me up
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BUSA brothers
#1 3136 Victoria, Australia
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Welcome new brothers,once again, if you are new to RCU or the kitbuilding forum we need to see some pics.
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Please sign me up for the brotherhood....I'm BUSA true blue and those WW1 birds are all I fly. Favorite part of the Rhinebeck Jamboree is planning what kit I'm taking home....thx.
Wow, you have been a member of RCU for over 5 years and this is your first post!
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First attempt at loading a pic
My Nieuport 28 older shot
I would have had some new pics but I drove out to the field this morning without the outer struts
Its electric runs on 10 cells fly's great love this plane
I have since put a fake rotating motor that spins on a bearing on motor shaft, came out great and hides the electric motor, I'll get a video soon
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First attempt at loading a pic
My Nieuport 28 older shot
I would have had some new pics but I drove out to the field this morning without the outer struts
Its electric runs on 10 cells fly's great love this plane
I have since put a fake rotating motor that spins on a bearing on motor shaft, came out great and hides the electric motor, I'll get a video soon
Looks great!

Where did you install the batteries, and what size are you using, size of prop and what motor?

How much flight do you get out of it (time) and what is the weight?

I am working on a BUSA 1/4 scale DVIII that will be electric.

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That looks fantastic Quagmire, is that a 1/6?
I'm interested in the answers to GerKonig's questions too.

You have #67, this brotherhood is growing fast.
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Gerry, I made a hatch on the right side, not in the above pic, at one time I had them behind the motor mount I would have to unbolt the mount, then the motor, mount, prop and every thing would slide out it.
worked alright 4 bolts and easy to get at until they caught fire then I couldn't get them out of there, so new rule I make hatches scale or not so I can yank them out of there
motor is a axi 53-30-24, jeti 90 amp speed control, 2 turnigy 5 cell 5000 mah I can 6 or 7 minutes putting around they now a make a 8000 mah should get better time
I left the upper burn everything else I fixed and painted
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3136,
It's 1/4 scale #67 is glad to be a board
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That German N17 is really cool. I always wanted to build an N17, I may have to use that scheme!
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Thank you for the info Quagmire. My idea for the DVIII was to use a 1.6 Tacon (around $50 from Nitroplanes), according to a vendor I met at the Wram show, that has a DVIII the best thing is to use a big prop on 6 cells. I have that motor on a Giant Stick on 10 cells and i have unlimited vertical at 14 1/2 pounds. W/8 cells it flies with more gusto than with the Z26 it used to have pulling it around.

The idea was to place the batteries in front of the firewall, installed trough a hatch on the cowling, but from the bottom up (while the model resting on the wing, on the floor). This would hide the hatches a bit:-) The weight needed would determine the size of the batteries. I use 5000 ma on my big electrics.

We will see what I do when I get there... with a 20-10 prop, on 10 cells the 1.6 draws 69 amp. The DVIII will be built as light I I can make it w/o changing much. In plain English: I will not add much unnecessary weight (scale stuff).

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Thank you for the info Quagmire. My idea for the DVIII was to use a 1.6 Tacon (around $50 from Nitroplanes), according to a vendor I met at the Wram show, that has a DVIII the best thing is to use a big prop on 6 cells. I have that motor on a Giant Stick on 10 cells and i have unlimited vertical at 14 1/2 pounds. W/8 cells it flies with more gusto than with the Z26 it used to have pulling it around.

The idea was to place the batteries in front of the firewall, installed trough a hatch on the cowling, but from the bottom up (while the model resting on the wing, on the floor). This would hide the hatches a bit:-) The weight needed would determine the size of the batteries. I use 5000 ma on my big electrics.

We will see what I do when I get there... with a 20-10 prop, on 10 cells the 1.6 draws 69 amp. The DVIII will be built as light I I can make it w/o changing much. In plain English: I will not add much unnecessary weight (scale stuff).

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I wonder about the DVIII. It seemed there were some issues with some of them not flying well, or stalling on take off etc. Did all of these issues get sorted out? Like lowering the wing incidence?
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I wonder about the DVIII. It seemed there were some issues with some of them not flying well, or stalling on take off etc. Did all of these issues get sorted out? Like lowering the wing incidence?
I saw a lot fly very well (definition of lot: more than 4 or 5) built following plans. The key issue according to "bookmaker" (rcscale forum) who has 2, is to keep them light. He built one all scaled up ( a porker), that crashed promply, and purchased one built per plans (much, much lighter) and he claims it flies much, much better.

The ones I saw were successful...

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I saw a lot fly very well (definition of lot: more than 4 or 5) built following plans. The key issue according to "bookmaker" (rcscale forum) who has 2, is to keep them light. He built one all scaled up ( a porker), that crashed promply, and purchased one built per plans (much, much lighter) and he claims it flies much, much better.

The ones I saw were successful...

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Hi,
Have a Honda GX31 4-stroke that has been looking for a home. Really like the looks of the BUSA DVIII, and as most WWI models seem to need nose weight, thought it might be a good match.

Appreciate any thoughts concerning this match up.

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Hi,
Have a Honda GX31 4-stroke that has been looking for a home. Really like the looks of the BUSA DVIII, and as most WWI models seem to need nose weight, thought it might be a good match.

Appreciate any thoughts concerning this match up.

T-man49 in Al
My D-V-III flies with a G-26, and has no additional nose weight. I also have the Honda and it weighs 5lbs. I think it would be to much weight for the D-VIII unless you shorten the nose or plan to add tail weight.
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Hello Steve and thanks for the quick reply.

Yeah, all this discussion concerning the DVIII and added weight, set me to thinkin'. While my GX31 has CH ign and been somewhat llightened, . . . porker is still a good description, while powerhouse isn't. Could only find my bathroom scales and was still reading 4.5 once and 5# once.


If you don't mind telling, what are your choices for the GX31? ? Any mono-wings ? ?

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Maybe it would be better suited for one of the Neuiports? If you use a heavy engine, then the wight has to be countered in another area by some other weight. Being that the DVIII needs to be light, the powerplant needs to be light to start with.
I think one thing to do to the DVIII would be to lighten the wing, and not fully sheet it or open up the ribs. I am sure that the DVIII could be built very light. It is just a matter of getting the engineering correct.
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I don't think the D-VIII needs any lightening. It flies great with the G-23. The Honda is just a load for it's displacement. A short nosed Nieuport 17 might be the best application. I never mounted my Honda on anything. We could only get about 5500 rpm on an 18x6 prop, using the stock carb and ignition. I wanted to try another carb, but never did.
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I would suggest a quarter scale Fokker Eindecker EIII. It has a long tail moment and a very short nose.......it would probably balance just about right with the Honda 4 stroke. Bob Homan Plans offers plans and a short kit.

I flew an enlarged to third scale version of it for several years and it was a very good flyer. Just a thought........
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I built a DVIII (not BUSA) from some plans a while ago, it takes off and lands at VERY slow speed, coming in to land it's as slow as a trainer.
The BUSA DVIII a/c that I have seen on youtube seem to need a heck more airspeed, probably much closer to scale, but harder to fly and if extra weight is added could be marginal.
If you look at my non BUSA wing it appears to have a much thicker airfoil.
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Not hung over, or at least I hope not as I am still at work and they frown on that sort of thing. Work for me is as a ships Captain in the Oil and Gas industry, so read long hours and no small amount of responsibility.
This is why I like playing around with model planes. Will be back home end of the month and can start uploading some photos
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