Kit Built Kadet Senior Sport
10-29-2014, 01:56 PM
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So between watching you build this, and one of my flying buddies who always flies his senior sport, I think my arm has been twisted enough. That coupled with the fact that I have a couple of ideal power plants just sitting around. I've got an OS 91 Surpass, or an Enya 80 4C. The price is great too. And I enjoy SIG kits as well. I want the power of the 91, but am leaning towards the Enya. Such a great lil engine.
10-29-2014, 02:15 PM
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I'm putting a Magnum .91 four stroke in this. It's fairly new, and just coming into it's own.
I have a .91 Surpass as a spare.
For the ARF Sport. the Magnum was too much. It'll be fine in this version, because of the added weight built in by the reinforcements.
Even with the added weight, I expect this model to fly well. I like to putt around with occasional bursts of power doing huge loops, etc.
The tail dragger aspect adds to the fun.
You'd enjoy the Kadet with either engine, I'm sure. Would you modify it into a Sport ?
I have a .91 Surpass as a spare.
For the ARF Sport. the Magnum was too much. It'll be fine in this version, because of the added weight built in by the reinforcements.
Even with the added weight, I expect this model to fly well. I like to putt around with occasional bursts of power doing huge loops, etc.
The tail dragger aspect adds to the fun.
You'd enjoy the Kadet with either engine, I'm sure. Would you modify it into a Sport ?
10-29-2014, 03:02 PM
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Checking back in again Tom, From the library. No internet yet from my mothers,Hoping maybe monday or Tuesday on that.
It was a safe and NOT exciting trip. My kind of trip. Only issue I had was my asthma the at the first high altitude climb. Lost count of how many time I had to hit the rescue inhaler. Then we spent the night in Flagstaff at 6000 feet, and the next pass did not even phase the slightest. I guess The night gave my body a chance to acclimate.
Got in to Modesto noon Thursday, and the truck offloaded Friday. Now starting to relearn my way around and figure out all of the changes.
Found the local hobby shop (only 1 of 2 surviving) I used to go to in my teens and early 20's. OMG. They dare call that a hobby shop for us airplane type guys? My last visit.
I will just drive the 90 minutes to the hobby shop in Sacramento. Mail order is my friend.
BAck on subject. I used rubber bands when I first built my SR. And the maybe 12 years or so later I stripped the entire plane, redid all of the control linkages,installed dual aileron servos. And threw the rubber bands as far away as I could fling them.
My rear hold down is similar to others that have posted pics and yours. For the front I used to arrow shafts with dowels epoxied inside of them.
For the fuse front hold down I used some 1/8" carbon fibre plate I had and ran a narrow piece all the all down to the bottom and anchored it to the ply landing gear. At the top it was bigger and I added a ply doubler to give the arrow shafts more meat to anchor in. I was concerned the carbon plate would wear through the shafts.
Check back next week
Ken
It was a safe and NOT exciting trip. My kind of trip. Only issue I had was my asthma the at the first high altitude climb. Lost count of how many time I had to hit the rescue inhaler. Then we spent the night in Flagstaff at 6000 feet, and the next pass did not even phase the slightest. I guess The night gave my body a chance to acclimate.
Got in to Modesto noon Thursday, and the truck offloaded Friday. Now starting to relearn my way around and figure out all of the changes.
Found the local hobby shop (only 1 of 2 surviving) I used to go to in my teens and early 20's. OMG. They dare call that a hobby shop for us airplane type guys? My last visit.
I will just drive the 90 minutes to the hobby shop in Sacramento. Mail order is my friend.
BAck on subject. I used rubber bands when I first built my SR. And the maybe 12 years or so later I stripped the entire plane, redid all of the control linkages,installed dual aileron servos. And threw the rubber bands as far away as I could fling them.
My rear hold down is similar to others that have posted pics and yours. For the front I used to arrow shafts with dowels epoxied inside of them.
For the fuse front hold down I used some 1/8" carbon fibre plate I had and ran a narrow piece all the all down to the bottom and anchored it to the ply landing gear. At the top it was bigger and I added a ply doubler to give the arrow shafts more meat to anchor in. I was concerned the carbon plate would wear through the shafts.
Check back next week
Ken
10-29-2014, 04:00 PM
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Good to hear from you Ken. Glad all is well. Would I modify it into a sport? Is that a real question? Heck, I was thinking about adding retracts. Lol. Yeah, definitely. I'm not sure if the tail dragged set up is part of what makes it a sport, but I've never built, or flown a tri-gear plane, and not about to start. I'm a tail dragging guy through and through. Also, this will be my very first trainer type plane, unless you consider Cubs trainers. I guess you would, huh? Soon, I'll be able to order the kit and probably end up doing like you and just building two at a time again, even though I just got on track with one at a time. Oh well. That didn't last long. Lol.
10-29-2014, 06:23 PM
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Talle is a great shop-mate for you Tom. So far, all I have are four young deer that come by to eat and lounge around. They don't give me any input at all.
Speaking of deer (and other newborns that struggle to stand right off the bat) it's always a grand site to see our models up on their main landing gear. Congrats.
Speaking of deer (and other newborns that struggle to stand right off the bat) it's always a grand site to see our models up on their main landing gear. Congrats.
10-29-2014, 11:42 PM
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I'm glad that you had a safe trip, Ken. Thanks for the input on your Kadet.
Steve
For me, modifying a trike geared trainer into a tail dragger, changes my attitude towards the model. Adding wheel pants adds to this impression.
I tend to fly tail dragger, wheel panted, trainers in a much more agressive manner. Loops, rolls, stall turns are the same with either version, but I tend not to do them when flying stock trainers.
EJ, When the deer lay down, and fall asleep in your shop, then you'll know that you have building buddies.
Let us know when that occurs. LOL
The tail section is the plan for today. Lots of cutting an fitting.
Just my cup of tea !
Steve
For me, modifying a trike geared trainer into a tail dragger, changes my attitude towards the model. Adding wheel pants adds to this impression.
I tend to fly tail dragger, wheel panted, trainers in a much more agressive manner. Loops, rolls, stall turns are the same with either version, but I tend not to do them when flying stock trainers.
EJ, When the deer lay down, and fall asleep in your shop, then you'll know that you have building buddies.
Let us know when that occurs. LOLThe tail section is the plan for today. Lots of cutting an fitting.
Just my cup of tea !
10-30-2014, 12:23 AM
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I not really looking at it as a trainer. More like a high wing sport. I have a big box full of never been used wheel pants that I picked up as part of an estate buy. One of them will look good on this one. What do you think about adding flaps? I know there's absolutely no need, but I think it would be kind of cool.
10-30-2014, 05:54 AM
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Ya, I'm looking at mine as a high wing sport model, too.
I plan to make my ailerons long, so it doesn't leave much room for flaps. They'd be easy enough to add, though.
My ailerons will be similar in length to the Sport ARF.
I plan to make my ailerons long, so it doesn't leave much room for flaps. They'd be easy enough to add, though.
My ailerons will be similar in length to the Sport ARF.
10-30-2014, 11:40 AM
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Thanks, Joe.
Scruff looks like a builder !
Talle had a friend stop by. A guy dog, no less. LOL His human brought over a cowl from a T-Clips, to see if it would fit the Kadet. It was close, but no cigar.
I'll look at a Kadet Sport cowl next, but I'm sure that it will fit.
I buil;t the tail section today. The only mod was to add large ply mounts for the rudder and elevator control horns. The suggested sizes were too small, in my opinion.
As you can see in the pics, Talle was adding her usual encouragement.
Scruff looks like a builder !
Talle had a friend stop by. A guy dog, no less. LOL His human brought over a cowl from a T-Clips, to see if it would fit the Kadet. It was close, but no cigar.
I'll look at a Kadet Sport cowl next, but I'm sure that it will fit.
I buil;t the tail section today. The only mod was to add large ply mounts for the rudder and elevator control horns. The suggested sizes were too small, in my opinion.
As you can see in the pics, Talle was adding her usual encouragement.
10-30-2014, 11:53 AM
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The tail feathers look great, Tom. Talle supervises good work, and in such a relaxed state!
I think that I can see that the rudder, and possibly elevator, are tapered. Is that per the plans, or another mod?
I think that I can see that the rudder, and possibly elevator, are tapered. Is that per the plans, or another mod?
10-30-2014, 12:20 PM
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Thanks, guys !
EJ, The rudder and elevatiors are built per plans. I did round the tips, however. They are tapered. The kit inclueded die cut ribs for these surfaces.
Mike, The Cowl measures approx 5"Wide X 5,5" in heigth. The T-Clips cowl tucks in at the firewall bottom. I would have had to mod the fuelage during contruction to accept it.
EJ, The rudder and elevatiors are built per plans. I did round the tips, however. They are tapered. The kit inclueded die cut ribs for these surfaces.
Mike, The Cowl measures approx 5"Wide X 5,5" in heigth. The T-Clips cowl tucks in at the firewall bottom. I would have had to mod the fuelage during contruction to accept it.
10-30-2014, 12:28 PM
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10-30-2014, 12:48 PM
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Thanks, guys !
EJ, The rudder and elevatiors are built per plans. I did round the tips, however. They are tapered. The kit inclueded die cut ribs for these surfaces.
Mike, The Cowl measures approx 5"Wide X 5,5" in heigth. The T-Clips cowl tucks in at the firewall bottom. I would have had to mod the fuelage during contruction to accept it.
EJ, The rudder and elevatiors are built per plans. I did round the tips, however. They are tapered. The kit inclueded die cut ribs for these surfaces.
Mike, The Cowl measures approx 5"Wide X 5,5" in heigth. The T-Clips cowl tucks in at the firewall bottom. I would have had to mod the fuelage during contruction to accept it.
Mike
10-30-2014, 03:41 PM
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Will I could not stand it any longer I put my order in today. I will be doing most of what Tom has done. I will square off the wing tips and add flaps per say but not real flaps, they will be tied into the elevator control. Elevator up flaps go down, elevator down flaps go up.
10-30-2014, 06:02 PM
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Look at what your doing Tom. Your gonna have half a dozen of us building seniors before you finish yours. Yeah, maybe I'll just stick with the long ailerons. Who knows. Figure that out when I get there. I'm unfortunately without a dog for the first time in over 20 years as of a few months ago. Had a beautiful St. Bernard. She lived to be 15 which is unheard of for that breed. Sorry, computer with all the pics is packed and at the new place. Speaking of, three more days here, then Sunday is uhaul day and sleep at the new house. Soon, I'll have a new pup.
10-31-2014, 12:35 AM
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Steve, Sorry to hear about your dog. I had a St Bernard years ago. They are an excellent companion .
Ken, I'm glad that you pulled the trigger. If you start construction soon, feel free to post your progress here.
The control line setup on the flaps is interesting. Can you elaborate on the reasoning behind this decision ?
Ken, I'm glad that you pulled the trigger. If you start construction soon, feel free to post your progress here.
The control line setup on the flaps is interesting. Can you elaborate on the reasoning behind this decision ?
10-31-2014, 02:53 AM
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As I remember, the idea is to smooth out manuevers. CL models are close coupled and sometimes they needed help to make them less eratic in flight.