Building a scale 1/4 scale Super Cub from Balsa J3 kit
01-27-2015, 12:15 PM
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01-28-2015, 08:26 AM
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Bird is right... the only way you are at risk of getting shingles is if you get the chickenpox first... then the chickenpox virus will lie dormant once your body's immune system fights it off, but the now dormant virus CAN mutate into the shingles virus and emerges later in your life... many who have had chickenpox, don't always get shingles, it all depends on what happens within the immune system during your initial exposure to the chickenpox virus... Like I said earlier, there is a shingles vaccine that will greatly reduce the chances of getting shingles, but because shingles is a mutated chickenpox virus, the shingles vaccine only inoculates one to that particular virus strain, not including the chickenpox virus; that was my understanding when it was discussed with my doctor.
If we didn't have all these undocumented immigrants infiltrating the US, I don't think it would be an issue, but most of these immigrants slipping past immigration haven't been vaccinated, so we're seeing more and more out breaks of the measles, TB, Pox, etc... I've never had the chickenpox, but I don't think I'm at a high risk of being exposed to someone with chickenpox, so for now I'm passing on the shingles vaccine.
John M,
If we didn't have all these undocumented immigrants infiltrating the US, I don't think it would be an issue, but most of these immigrants slipping past immigration haven't been vaccinated, so we're seeing more and more out breaks of the measles, TB, Pox, etc... I've never had the chickenpox, but I don't think I'm at a high risk of being exposed to someone with chickenpox, so for now I'm passing on the shingles vaccine.
John M,
01-28-2015, 03:35 PM
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It's not just the immigrants you have a lot of well educated American born people not bothering to vaccinate their kids for measles, Polio, etc. The believe the old discredited false rumor it causes Autism (probably came from the same morons that spread the rumor AIDS was an American plot to wipe out Africans). They are directly responsible for the reemergence of Polio and the Measles! The heart break is not one of these kids would have to be handicapped for life or die if their idiot parents would have just vaccinated them!
Now, there are probably many holes you can shoot in my opinion but it is my opinion and few may agree with me but you are in the same boat, or in the boat next to mine.
So, It is unfortunate that things play out as they do but they will, no matter what or how you or I think! A good friend told me many years ago, 'when ever you draw a line in the sand, you have to spend time and energy defending it. Make sure it is important enough to draw that line.
Politics, religion, race, sexual preference and many other things are not something we can control! We as individuals are the only things that we can control!
Well, I guess I'll get off my soap box. Please, just remember I like you and all the others here. well, most of you..........except for that guy...............that twisted off..........hehe!
HOW BOUT THAT SUPER CUB LEROY'S BUILDING?
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01-29-2015, 05:25 AM
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Bird, no harm, no foul! I think may be misconstruing something by my tone. I'm sure some disease is carried in by poor illegal immigrants, the very nature of the way they are transported into this country is a breading ground for the spread of Tuberculosis and other communicable diseases. They are poor and by inlarge healthcare is rare and by in large unattainable. I place the fault for the immigration problem not on the immigrants but on the government and those who hire them. Start enforcing the laws against the employers, not the illegals, increase fines to something like $100K and 5 years hard labor for the owners, or in the case of corporations CEO, COO, and CFO, per illegal employee. After the courts bankrupt a couple of companies along with long jail terms for the owner or executives. You wont see illegals coming after that because there will be no jobs they can get. If its not worth the cost or hiring them businesses won't. We had a local manufacturing company that was hiring illegals years ago (my cousin worked there) but after he got raided 2 or 3 times and the loss of workforce caused him to default on some big contracts he wouldn't hire them. The money he loss far out stripped any labor costs savings. When politicians say they want to stop illegal immigration the are just paying lip service to the problem they have no will to fix it. It would cost them too much to do so.
No, what raise my blood pressure is the number of kids who get sick because when their sorry excuse for parents could have prevented it by get them immunized! We had Polio and a host of other childhood diseases to the point of eradication before these idiots started skipping their kids shots based on halfbaked ideas without a shred of credible evidence. In the news they were talking about California has a large area that is a hot bed of Measles in above average income families all due because the parents didn't vaccinate. That is what really pi$$e$ me off!
But enough venting! We won't solve the nation's problem here so I guess we better go back to discussing airplanes! The workmanship Leroy is putting in is fantastic, second to none! I know a lot of guys say everyone has a Cub but how often do you see something like this one will turn out? Myself I like something a little rare, something you don't see at the field but I still own a J-3 Cub, granted its bright yellow not Cub yellow and will soon have CAP insignia on it but it still a full length wingspan Cub and I have a Clipped Wing kit in my stash. There just something about a Cub!
Mike
No, what raise my blood pressure is the number of kids who get sick because when their sorry excuse for parents could have prevented it by get them immunized! We had Polio and a host of other childhood diseases to the point of eradication before these idiots started skipping their kids shots based on halfbaked ideas without a shred of credible evidence. In the news they were talking about California has a large area that is a hot bed of Measles in above average income families all due because the parents didn't vaccinate. That is what really pi$$e$ me off!
But enough venting! We won't solve the nation's problem here so I guess we better go back to discussing airplanes! The workmanship Leroy is putting in is fantastic, second to none! I know a lot of guys say everyone has a Cub but how often do you see something like this one will turn out? Myself I like something a little rare, something you don't see at the field but I still own a J-3 Cub, granted its bright yellow not Cub yellow and will soon have CAP insignia on it but it still a full length wingspan Cub and I have a Clipped Wing kit in my stash. There just something about a Cub!
Mike
01-29-2015, 07:53 AM
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I've been doing some research on rib stitching and edge tape etc. Is there a general rule of thumb to follow or is each aircraft done differently? Can someone shine some light on the subject with respect to the Super Cub? Where to rib stitch, where to use edge tape, pinked or straight etc
Many thanks
Many thanks
01-29-2015, 09:05 AM
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If you are using the plan or the full scale spacing pinked tape was used on all ribs (distance between stiches if my memory is correct it was 1 1/8) straight tape was used to the best of my experience only tp cover the longerons and frame all tapes used on the out side of the covering had to be pinked. But then I only worked in the fabric shop for 2 seasons during collage and that was back in the early 50's.
Hope this helps
Cheers bob T
If you are using the plan or the full scale spacing pinked tape was used on all ribs (distance between stiches if my memory is correct it was 1 1/8) straight tape was used to the best of my experience only tp cover the longerons and frame all tapes used on the out side of the covering had to be pinked. But then I only worked in the fabric shop for 2 seasons during collage and that was back in the early 50's.
Hope this helps
Cheers bob T
01-29-2015, 10:12 AM
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Thanks guys,
Leroy do the trailing edges have parimeter pinked tape as well and what would be the best material for the access inspection rings? I was thinking cardboard rings rather than plastic!
Leroy do the trailing edges have parimeter pinked tape as well and what would be the best material for the access inspection rings? I was thinking cardboard rings rather than plastic!
01-29-2015, 10:18 AM
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I spent a number of hours searching for full scale finishing etc. I typed super cub stitching in google and found this right away.
http://thecubden.org/thecubden/paint...itch-placement
http://thecubden.org/thecubden/paint...itch-placement
01-30-2015, 05:47 AM
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I've been doing some research on rib stitching and edge tape etc. Is there a general rule of thumb to follow or is each aircraft done differently? Can someone shine some light on the subject with respect to the Super Cub? Where to rib stitch, where to use edge tape, pinked or straight etc
Many thanks
Many thanks
Someone chime in if I am mistaken.
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01-30-2015, 05:51 AM
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Hi Hughes, for starters I have a lot of pictures and have looked at a lot of super cubs dating several years. First of all the pinked tape is all over the plane ranging from 2" to 4", even 3" on tail perimeters and wing tips, flap and ailerons leading edges and 4" on the leading edge of wings. Stitching tapes are 2" as well as stringer overlays on fuselage. Rib stitch tape runs all the way around ribs, not just where the stitches are, on tail surfaces put the stitch tape on before the perimeter binding tape. Stitches are not perfectly spaced at 3" and can be as much as 4" here and there so from a scale stand point 5/8" spacing looks good on 1/4 scale and 3/4" spacing on a 1/3 scale with a mix of some random ones as needed. Other words they are not perfect. For examples you could Google rib stitching on a super cub.
A couple of examples of stitching I did on a 1/4 scale plane might help get a better idea.
A couple of examples of stitching I did on a 1/4 scale plane might help get a better idea.
I have some pic's showing the process.
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01-30-2015, 11:49 AM
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bird making the stitches was not hard, using the nail board and ironing the Solartex on the threads which were cut with a rotary cutter 1/8" wide and stitch tapes were 1/2" wide. For the cub I will use a bit smaller thread, pictures are of the first time I have done this on my Spacewalker which ended up getting an award as Best Civilian Plane at the first scale meet it was in.
Stitches and tapes were put on with a covering iron and I know you can buy this stuff but what fun is that when you can make it as good or better than what is out there to get your money
Stitches and tapes were put on with a covering iron and I know you can buy this stuff but what fun is that when you can make it as good or better than what is out there to get your money
BTW, where can I get one of those pinking machines? Does it come with different scale pinking wheels? And most importantly, how much are they?
thanks
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