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Old 12-22-2014, 11:23 AM
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OMG, Vincent - you're amazing!!! I have NEVER seen a shop as neat as yours.

Incredible!

The conversation here lately reminds me of a similar situation I had many years ago. I'd bought a roll-up tape measure and it read different from an older one I had. When I took it back to the store I found that out of a half-dozen of the same exact tapes, no two read the same exact measurement. I learned, really fast, the value of getting the best I could afford - - and checking even that for usability.
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Thanks Dave, it's funny how quickly a clean organized shop can turn messy and disorganized! I try to clean-up after myself after each build session. When your shop is a small as mine you have to keep it neat.
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I knew a contractor who threw out all the tapes at the start of a new project and issued everyone a new matching tape that he selected. It saved a lot of heartache. He would build cabinets with booked panels so if you had 9 panels anywhere between $100 - $200 and screwed up one you threw the whole lot out and started over. He couldn't afford mistakes! I have a number of rulers but I try to use the same ruler for all measurements on the project.
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
I knew a contractor who threw out all the tapes at the start of a new project and issued everyone a new matching tape that he selected. It saved a lot of heartache. He would build cabinets with booked panels so if you had 9 panels anywhere between $100 - $200 and screwed up one you threw the whole lot out and started over. He couldn't afford mistakes! I have a number of rulers but I try to use the same ruler for all measurements on the project.
Ditto what Mike said.

Synchronize /calibrate your tapes.
Rulers no can do. So use just one on a job.

That 18th century shoe expands and contracts with the weather

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Using the same ruler can be a pain sometimes I take a good straight piece of wood to mark off on it what I want to measure and then use a ruler because I can't get the ruler into the space! I have a little Xacto triangle with a ruled edge that matches my building rulers and I'll use it for close spaces whenever possible.
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At work we are only allowed to use Lufkin Steel tape measures for fabrication and verification. Before building a kit I flatten my plans out. I measure the wing chord and span on the drawings, and then compare that to the specifications. Usually, I don't build over the plans because of the error. Then, after many flights and repairs, the wind or a tree limb, a power line, or engine problem returns the plane to mulch.
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Just wanted to thank all of you following this thread. I hope that we all can share and learn from each other and make this a more enjoyable hobby for all...

From my build table to yours Merry Christmas!
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Merry Christmas to you as well Vincent !

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Merry Christmas!!!
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Thanks all for the explanations, 'specially the one about the shoe standard Kevin, I was actually wondering what the standard would be as I wrote the question

Now I know what my next task is in my garage/shop right after I fix my heater-sync all my measuring devices. Makes sense the important thing is that they all match each other-would be nice if they matched the rest of the world but not a catastrophe if they don't when I'm just using them for my own projects.

Right back at you Vincent with the Merry Christmas! And to every one else!

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Merry Christmas !
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Merry Christmas!!!

Remember, its not too late to install a coal burning stove in the shop and you can use the balsa dust to get it started!
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Christmas, it's a wonderful time of year, family, friends and a bunch of grandkids getting together and trips down memory lane not to mention all the food involved, it's enough to wear you out being on the go all the time. I'm always glad to get it over though and enjoy the left overs, love the left overs, I don't have to cook for a week.

Then there's that plane wondering where the builder went, may be some here wondering the same thing. It will be nice to get back at it if I can remember where I was.

Wishing you all a great Christmas and the following year that's coming where we get to do it all over again.

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Same to you Leroy!
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Thought I'd give you all an update on the progress. The right wing has been framed up and the top and bottom leading edges have been sheeted. I'll post some photos later on for you to see. The wing's leading edge complicated things a bit and slowed me down more than I thought it would. I will join the two wing halves together soon, then I will have to set the wings aside to start on the fuselage. With the addition of flaps, I need to know exactly were to place them next to the sides of the fuse.
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Here's what the right wing half looks like at the moment. Once the entire wing is sheeted and sanded down it should look pretty good. Received my fuel tank and navigational lights...oh boy!
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Looking Good,
I have always liked the looks of this kit, can't wait to see what you do with it.
Later!!
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Old 12-28-2014, 06:44 AM
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Thanks Anthony.

Anyone having trouble getting on RCU site? Hard to log on and sometimes takes forever to load. Thought that these type of problems were behind us. I have no trouble logging on RC Groups!
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Originally Posted by WacoNut
Looking Good,
I have always liked the looks of this kit, can't wait to see what you do with it.
Later!!
Anthony
Me too Vince.
Your thread would load but Roberts won't.
As always. Looking good

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Yeah the past week or so have been terrible with loading.
At least the picture post problem hasn't popped back up yet.
Old 12-28-2014, 02:34 PM
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Thanks guys for the feedback, that's what I thought...

Today I had full intentions of working in my shop on the Bravo, but I was so sick and tired of the mountain of sanding bars that reside on the end of my build table that I decided to do something about it before I start to ding up my wing. I have long wanted to make some type of angle wall mounted shelf for them, so with saw in hand that's exactly what I did. Here's what it looks like.
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That's real nice, labels and everything.

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I like that I wish I had the space to do the same!
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Today I decided that I would join the two wing halves together. Laying the wings on my build table, I tested the fit and made some minor changes with a sanding block until I was satisfied with the results. You can see that the Bravo's wings are pretty long, as they hang off my build table. It's a good idea to go through a complete mock-up (dry fit) before mixing the epoxy, this will ensure that you have everything that you need (i.e. clamps, clamping blocks, etc.) on the table before the clock starts ticking on the glue. 30 minute epoxy was mixed and spread on each mating rib half, then they were clamped together and allowed to fully cure.

The Bravo has quite a bit of dihedral, 10 1/4" to be exact! I chose not to install the two top and bottom plywood spar doublers at this time, they will be epoxied into place after the clamps are removed once the epoxy has cured.
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