Sig Morrisey Bravo Build
#426
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Welcome back Vince you have been missed! As you can see the Peanut Gallery has been patiently waiting! Since you and a number of the others here are such good builders before you get started I would like to pick everyone's collective brain. I got the Caddell Bonanza short kit w/ plans in the mail Friday I had recently ordered, yeah I know I need another project like a hole in the head. She is a little larger than the Top Flite kit at a 86" wingspan but the investment was not even close to what the TF kit goes for now. It looks good but the airplane seems to have grown since I saw the .pdf of the plans!
My next hurdle is determining the correct retracts to use, it was design for the old Rohm retracts and the nose wheel was designed to stick up at a strange angle. I could use some ideas on what to use. I love the way he designed the nose doors to close using the wheel to level them shut.
I think the Robart TF Bonanza gear will work for the most part but I can't decide if I would be better substituting the 646HDRS nose gear that will belly or firewall mount for the stock 630 nose gear. Attached is everything the plans show along with the Robart Drawing showing both nose gears. Robart will substitute the 646 nose gear for the 630 nose gear for $25 its worth it if it will help. This gear is built on demand so I'm looking at 4 to 6 weeks whichever way I go. The plans are a little fuzzy in mount the nose gear and no parts drawing were included in the plans so the laser cutter didn't cut any parts. I can't blame Limey Bob for that.
Like I said before we got some great builders in this thread so would anyone care to make a suggestions, the more the merrier? I'll do a build when I get started but for now I want to work thru this detail. The recommended engine is a .90 to 1.20 two cycle with the designer saying it flies like a big trainer. I got that from the old magazine article Bob posted with the plans .pdf and I take those articles with a grain of salt. The engine selection is dependent on the nose wheel installation because the gear sets so far forward. Please see the attachments.
Mike
My next hurdle is determining the correct retracts to use, it was design for the old Rohm retracts and the nose wheel was designed to stick up at a strange angle. I could use some ideas on what to use. I love the way he designed the nose doors to close using the wheel to level them shut.
I think the Robart TF Bonanza gear will work for the most part but I can't decide if I would be better substituting the 646HDRS nose gear that will belly or firewall mount for the stock 630 nose gear. Attached is everything the plans show along with the Robart Drawing showing both nose gears. Robart will substitute the 646 nose gear for the 630 nose gear for $25 its worth it if it will help. This gear is built on demand so I'm looking at 4 to 6 weeks whichever way I go. The plans are a little fuzzy in mount the nose gear and no parts drawing were included in the plans so the laser cutter didn't cut any parts. I can't blame Limey Bob for that.
Like I said before we got some great builders in this thread so would anyone care to make a suggestions, the more the merrier? I'll do a build when I get started but for now I want to work thru this detail. The recommended engine is a .90 to 1.20 two cycle with the designer saying it flies like a big trainer. I got that from the old magazine article Bob posted with the plans .pdf and I take those articles with a grain of salt. The engine selection is dependent on the nose wheel installation because the gear sets so far forward. Please see the attachments.
Mike
#427
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Glad to see there is still some interest in this build. As soon as I can shake off this fever and sore throat I will get back to my workshop. Thanks all for your kind words...
#430
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Mike
#431
Hey Vinnie we found a new field this summer on a private 2700 ft grass runway that belongs to a private school. They own 700 acres and there is also a sizable pond for float flying off of. And if that were not enough they also have a huge gym which we have been flying indoors at. All within 15 min of my home. They have a pilots course that they offer to the kids, and own 2 cessnas. Our rent is only $2500 a year, and they are thrilled to have us be there.
#432
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Wow! I'd say you struck pay dirt there Cliff... I'm happy that your club has a place that has such amenities. You should get some PR out of that in your local paper, I'm sure the owners would love it!
#434
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I'm glad to hear your club is planting seeds in young minds maybe you can recruit some new members to the hobby. Speaking from experience around here the young ladies seem to pick up flying skills slightly quicker than the boys. I have mentioned this to some of the female cadets in CAP and they really eat it up. I think it makes them all the more interested.
#435
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Guess I'll never make any money doing sheetrock work. I'm still spreading mud (hopefully my last coat). Seems as though winter has found its way here after a very mild winter up to this point. We are getting hit one storm after another, our last dumped 17" on us two days ago along with single digit temps! Last night was just a couple of inches with another 6-12" predicted for Sunday through Monday. Already had 5 snow days from work...too much shoveling.
Last edited by VincentJ; 02-11-2017 at 12:38 PM.
#439
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OK Update... The sanding and painting have been completed. I am so glad that's over. Tomorrow I'm heading to the lumber yard to buy some materials for my new build table. I think I have the room for a 4'x8' build table, I want it 36" high which I think will be a comfortable height to work at.. I also started hanging tools on the 4 full sheets of peg board that I installed. It's good to finally get my "stuff" out of cardboard boxes. I haven't seen the contents since I last packed it almost two years ago! Soon as I clean up the room a bit I'll snap a pic or two... Getting closer every day, I really can't wait...
Last edited by VincentJ; 02-18-2017 at 01:47 PM.
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I was looking through the Morrisey builds and a question came to mind I thought I would ask one of the builders. I have a chance to get an older Proctor kit but I'm concerned that the wood is too dry? Is that a justified concern or not, it all appears to be in good condition otherwise.
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#444
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FLY, when I built my first vintage (Sig Ryan STA) kit back in 2012 I had the same concerns, in fact below is a direct quote from the first post of that build. I am now on my second vintage build and again all the wood is as good if not better than what you could have purchased today. I have not had any problems with glue-ups or wood splitting. I think it comes down to how the kit (wood) was stored, along with the temperature and humidity all those years. I would not hesitate to purchase your Proctor kit. I have two more vintage kits on the shelf for future builds!
"I've always admired the Sig Ryan STA plane, and recently I had the good fortune to buy one on E-bay for a tidy sum of $225.00. Now buying a NIB kit from 1971 makes one wonder if all that money that you are spending will just be for the plans and instruction booklet, after all, the wood in the kit is 41 years old! My kit arrived recently and I was eager to open it and check its contents.It was like a time capsule. I found the wood to be of the highest quality with no warping, twisting, splitting or hardening of any kind! I really couldn't believe it...."
"I've always admired the Sig Ryan STA plane, and recently I had the good fortune to buy one on E-bay for a tidy sum of $225.00. Now buying a NIB kit from 1971 makes one wonder if all that money that you are spending will just be for the plans and instruction booklet, after all, the wood in the kit is 41 years old! My kit arrived recently and I was eager to open it and check its contents.It was like a time capsule. I found the wood to be of the highest quality with no warping, twisting, splitting or hardening of any kind! I really couldn't believe it...."
Last edited by VincentJ; 02-20-2017 at 04:18 AM.
#445
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I was looking through the Morrisey builds and a question came to mind I thought I would ask one of the builders. I have a chance to get an older Proctor kit but I'm concerned that the wood is too dry? Is that a justified concern or not, it all appears to be in good condition otherwise.
Thanks
Thanks
Mike
Last edited by FlyerInOKC; 02-20-2017 at 07:50 AM.
#446
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Here's a peek at the progress I have made in my workshop. Took me a bit longer than anticipated to build my new table. I still have to put in the lower shelf and give it one more coat of Poly and it will be done. Its dimensions are 4'x7' with the top at a comfortable 36" in height. To ensure that the top stays flat over time I have incorporated 3 lengths of steel angle iron underneath. The top is 1-1/2 inch cabinet grade Birch plywood. I left a 6 inch overhang all the way around the table for clamping purposes when needed. A bit bigger than my old table which is now serving duty for my spindle sander and drill press which is still in the garage. Not looking forward to moving it!!! I have future plans to build compartmentalized storage for all of my Balsa stock which will slide under the side of the table. Feels good to get things out of boxes and organized.
Last edited by VincentJ; 02-28-2017 at 02:41 PM.
#450
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