Where have all the builders gone
09-28-2015, 11:00 PM
#1027
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Sometimes it takes you over a decade to build an airplane like this P38 with lots of other projects in between. I do now and then fly ARFs, but I get the most enjoyment flying the planes I built, plus they look so much better.
Once a builder always a builder... even if you never finish your build!
Once a builder always a builder... even if you never finish your build!
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09-29-2015, 04:38 AM
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09-29-2015, 05:10 AM
#1030
Sincerely, Richard
09-29-2015, 05:18 AM
#1031
I've had little luck with Krylon. I can't get a glossy finish with it.
I've had good luck with the solid colors of Rustoleum, ie. red, yellow, green. I'd call the paint "fuel resistant". I wouldn't use it to fuel proof a firewall, or tank compartment.
The only fuel proof waterborne paint, that I'm aware of, is distributed by Nelson Hobbies. http://www.nelsonhobby.com/hobby_paint.php
I've had good luck with the solid colors of Rustoleum, ie. red, yellow, green. I'd call the paint "fuel resistant". I wouldn't use it to fuel proof a firewall, or tank compartment.
The only fuel proof waterborne paint, that I'm aware of, is distributed by Nelson Hobbies. http://www.nelsonhobby.com/hobby_paint.php
09-29-2015, 05:19 AM
#1032
Richard you can make just about any paint fuel resistant by applying several coats of Lusterkote clear over them. You would want to do test samples first for paint compatibility. Lusterkote will handle 15% Nitro just fine. I can't comment on higher levels I don't use anything higher than 15%.
09-29-2015, 06:26 AM
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You see a similar problem with the boys when they start getting interested in girls and go off to college. I thought I had my youngest of 4 boys interested until he started dating in high school and then started college. My no. 3 son is married and with a 2 year old and is after me to setup a demo for the kids in his CAP unit. I almost have the airplane ready. Its a J-3 with circa 1945 CAP insignia. My 182 will get the full modern day CAP livery when I finish it.
09-29-2015, 06:38 AM
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I'm toying with the idea of donating the J-3 (minus engine and radio) for a display after I get some flight time on it. It does have some hanger rash still it looks good. Once Scott (No. 4 son) completes Paramedic school I may see if he want to start having flying dates and he can have my LT-40 and 72 Mhz 6 CH EXA radio. Its powered by a workhorse of a ST .40.
09-29-2015, 12:52 PM
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I have moved away from spray cans, I never liked trials and errors. These days I use aqua-primer as base coat and color coat with Testor acrylic paints, those 1/2 oz bottles can go a long ways with an airbrush. Repairs and repaint is easy as well. After applying weathering I coat entirely with Testor's flat acrylic clear that flattens all the colors evenly. I have done this on a few gas planes already. I know some may not like cleaning up airbrushes but by the time I clean my airbrush these paints would almost be dried to touch. I cant say that for canned primers and paints. Warbird Colors has a new blend and will try that as well.
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09-29-2015, 01:49 PM
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Once a Builder ... Always a Builder ...
I agree .... it is in the Blood. I was just reading a MAN from 2008 and I actually saw an ARF Senior Falcon. I built mine in about 4 days and had it silk-spanned and dried in less then a week. Took it out on its Maiden that weekend. That plane is so easy to build that I could not believe thy made an ARF of it. Without the silks-pan and the butyrate it would have been finished with the new coverings in 4 days, about the same build time as an ARF.
09-29-2015, 03:15 PM
#1039
I agree .... it is in the Blood. I was just reading a MAN from 2008 and I actually saw an ARF Senior Falcon. I built mine in about 4 days and had it silk-spanned and dried in less then a week. Took it out on its Maiden that weekend. That plane is so easy to build that I could not believe thy made an ARF of it. Without the silks-pan and the butyrate it would have been finished with the new coverings in 4 days, about the same build time as an ARF.
That is currently just impossible for many of us:-) Besides, quite frankly, a Senior Falcon was attractive decades ago (in my case). Now my models are bigger and a bit more complex:-) Not more fun, just bigger and a bit more complex than in the old days.
Gerry
09-29-2015, 03:17 PM
#1040
Sometimes it takes you over a decade to build an airplane like this P38 with lots of other projects in between. I do now and then fly ARFs, but I get the most enjoyment flying the planes I built, plus they look so much better.
Once a builder always a builder... even if you never finish your build!
Once a builder always a builder... even if you never finish your build!
Gerry
09-29-2015, 10:42 PM
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Now you see I make my own ARFs 
, well not exactly, there's a lot work to be done to them with 12 servos and many control hinging, I was trying to paint them side by side but in my small shop it was impossible so the second has to wait. Plus the painted one belongs to someone else and I want it out the door.
, well not exactly, there's a lot work to be done to them with 12 servos and many control hinging, I was trying to paint them side by side but in my small shop it was impossible so the second has to wait. Plus the painted one belongs to someone else and I want it out the door.
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09-30-2015, 04:11 AM
#1042
I have moved away from spray cans, I never liked trials and errors. These days I use aqua-primer as base coat and color coat with Testor acrylic paints, those 1/2 oz bottles can go a long ways with an airbrush. Repairs and repaint is easy as well. After applying weathering I coat entirely with Testor's flat acrylic clear that flattens all the colors evenly. I have done this on a few gas planes already. I know some may not like cleaning up airbrushes but by the time I clean my airbrush these paints would almost be dried to touch. I cant say that for canned primers and paints. Warbird Colors has a new blend and will try that as well.
Actually on the p-47 above I used the airbrush also to get the fade from grey to OD on the fuse, the spray pattern straight from the can is way to wide and splotchy, Weathering was via the airbrush too. What I do is spray some paint onto a hand made funnel made out of a magazine cover or similar paper and let it pour into the airbrush cup.
cya
09-30-2015, 11:21 AM
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I'm toying with the idea of donating the J-3 (minus engine and radio) for a display after I get some flight time on it. It does have some hanger rash still it looks good. Once Scott (No. 4 son) completes Paramedic school I may see if he want to start having flying dates and he can have my LT-40 and 72 Mhz 6 CH EXA radio. Its powered by a workhorse of a ST .40.
10-01-2015, 06:53 AM
#1049
Well since you brought up the subject, in keeping in the same Golden Era, how about Pancho Barnes' Travel Air Mystery Ship NR-613K? You could go two ways with it, the factory built design powered with the D-6 Chevrolair inline engine or the radial conversion Pancho did after she purchased it and flown by Paul Mantz for his stunt work.