Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Airplanes > Kit Building
Reload this Page >

Ace 4-60 bipe instructions

Community
Search
Notices
Kit Building If you're building a kit and have questions or want to discuss kit building post it here.

Ace 4-60 bipe instructions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-03-2015, 10:44 PM
  #1  
muddy69
Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Medford, OR
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Ace 4-60 bipe instructions

I just received a supposedly NIB 4-60 bipe. All is there except the instruction manual. Anyone out there have a scan or copy?

Thanks,
Jason
Old 12-04-2015, 07:51 AM
  #2  
carlgrover
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Decatur, AL
Posts: 809
Likes: 0
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

I had one. Best flying bipe I ever had. I literally wore it out I flew it so many times. Add interplane struts to it and make them functional. Towards the end of it's life, you could see both wings flex on mine when I did a snap roll. A K&B .65 was a perfect match too.

I'm not sure if I still have the build instructions but I'll check when I get home.



carl
Old 12-04-2015, 04:33 PM
  #3  
muddy69
Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Medford, OR
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I was thinking struts would be a good modification. Did you add ailerons to the top wing or leave it original? Thanks for checking.


Jason
Old 12-04-2015, 04:33 PM
  #4  
carlgrover
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Decatur, AL
Posts: 809
Likes: 0
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

Sorry I just looked and I no longer have the plans or instructions.


Carl
Old 12-05-2015, 06:20 AM
  #5  
acdii
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Capron, IL
Posts: 10,000
Received 97 Likes on 88 Posts
Default

Download them. I was able to find them on my iphone. Google ace460manual.pdf. I have it on my phone. Bipe instructions are on the last page.
Old 12-05-2015, 06:49 PM
  #6  
muddy69
Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Medford, OR
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I found the instructions you are referring to. Unfortunately the biplane reference at the end is for beefing up the horizontal and vertical stab. It looks like a straightforward build, I'm just unsure about the cabana setup.
Old 12-07-2015, 10:21 AM
  #7  
carlgrover
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Decatur, AL
Posts: 809
Likes: 0
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

I only had ailerons on the bottom wing. I never felt it was necessary to have them on the top wing. If you do put ailerons on that wing it will require quite a bit of mods to make it work.


Carl
Old 12-07-2015, 05:04 PM
  #8  
acdii
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Capron, IL
Posts: 10,000
Received 97 Likes on 88 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by carlgrover
I only had ailerons on the bottom wing. I never felt it was necessary to have them on the top wing. If you do put ailerons on that wing it will require quite a bit of mods to make it work.


Carl
or 6 channel RX to mix upper and lower aileron servos on. It's like the Biper Cub I am building, Deciding on whether to lock the lower ailerons or add 2 more servos to the bottom wing and mix channels on the RX. If the radio can be setup to do so, can turn the bottom wing into flaperons, and do some hang time.
Old 12-10-2015, 05:28 PM
  #9  
ken78cvx20
My Feedback: (3)
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: sacramento, CA
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Hey Jason,

I have this kit with the instruction manual I can scan it for you tomorrow.

Ken
Old 12-11-2015, 01:46 PM
  #10  
ken78cvx20
My Feedback: (3)
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: sacramento, CA
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The file is to large to post here I sent you a PM

Ken
Old 12-20-2015, 04:56 PM
  #11  
muddy69
Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Medford, OR
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Carl,

Did you leave the top wing incidence alone or modify? How effective was the stock rudder, do you see any need to enlarge the surface

Jason
Old 01-04-2016, 07:12 AM
  #12  
carlgrover
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Decatur, AL
Posts: 809
Likes: 0
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

I built mine with the incidences set per the kit. I didn't modify the rudder either. I don't see a need. It flew fantastic as is.

Carl
Old 01-04-2016, 05:20 PM
  #13  
acdii
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Capron, IL
Posts: 10,000
Received 97 Likes on 88 Posts
Default

Are these heavy planes? The one I picked up seems a bit on the heavy side compared to the planes I built.
Old 01-07-2016, 08:21 AM
  #14  
carlgrover
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Decatur, AL
Posts: 809
Likes: 0
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

There is a lot of plywood in the fuse and the 4-60 bipe is kind of heavy. However; mine flew fantastic. I really liked that plane.

carl
Old 01-06-2018, 02:28 PM
  #15  
shoetec
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Hi all. New to RCU. Have scanned the forums for information and finally joined today. Started glow planes back in the 80s, Family grew, field got buit on, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, was reintroduced a few years ago and my how things have changed! I can't believe how easy (and cheap) it is to get a plane in the air now. A couple months ago I took the 4-60 Bipe down from over the garage to convert to EP. Finished it this afternoon but can't find the manual (have the plans). Can someone tell me the recommended control throws? Thanks
Old 01-06-2018, 06:28 PM
  #16  
ken78cvx20
My Feedback: (3)
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: sacramento, CA
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Control deflections

Just dugout my kit

Rudder 3/4 “ right and left
Elevator 1/2 “ up and down
Allerons 3/8 up and down

Enjoy the re-maiden

And please post post pictures or video if you can.

Ken
Old 01-07-2018, 03:39 PM
  #17  
shoetec
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thank you, Ken! I was hoping you'd still be watching this after 2 years. I've kept the plans and instructions for the planes I've built and still have. I have two sets for the Sportster 60 (that should tell you something). I even have the plans for the 4-40 Bipe that showed up in RCM magazine. But Heck if I know where that instruction books is. Here's a pic of mine. It's close to 30 years old. Got it as soon as the kit came out and the plan is dated 1988. Never crashed so it's in pretty good shape. Just some wingtip scuffs underneath from curbs in the unbuilt office park we used to fly at. It hasn't flown in at least 25 years and will have to wait at least another 4 months with our NE winter in full swing. Thanks again.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	4-60 Bpe.jpg
Views:	100
Size:	1.33 MB
ID:	2250315  
Old 01-08-2018, 11:13 AM
  #18  
ken78cvx20
My Feedback: (3)
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: sacramento, CA
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

shoetec,

Glad to help and your plane looks great, I really like the way you installed the motor.
Hoping to get to building mine soon.

Ken
Old 01-09-2018, 10:18 AM
  #19  
carlgrover
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Decatur, AL
Posts: 809
Likes: 0
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

Funny thing about that 4-60 bipe. I haven't seen a kit or even a partially built one at a swap meet in many years, if at all.

carl
Old 01-09-2018, 01:14 PM
  #20  
TomCrump
 
TomCrump's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Traverse City, MI
Posts: 7,614
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by carlgrover
Funny thing about that 4-60 bipe. I haven't seen a kit or even a partially built one at a swap meet in many years, if at all.

carl
Ya, I see 4-40s and 4-60s, once in awhile, but the bipes are rare as hen's teeth.
Old 01-11-2018, 02:52 PM
  #21  
jollyroger
My Feedback: (6)
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: central Lake, MI
Posts: 510
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by carlgrover
Funny thing about that 4-60 bipe. I haven't seen a kit or even a partially built one at a swap meet in many years, if at all.

carl
You can purchase a short kit from : .:: L a z e r-w o r k s.c o m ::. Lazer Works - Engraving & Design
The all you need are some sticks and sheeting.
Old 10-08-2018, 06:21 AM
  #22  
shoetec
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Finally maidened the electrified 4-60 Bipe. It flew well, like a sport flyer. Not enough posts to add video but search "ace 4-60 bipe" on YouTube to see a couple take-offs and landings. Thanks again to Ken for the long lost manual info. Will probably use the winter to try and apply the power combo to my even older Sig Citabria.
Old 10-09-2018, 07:35 AM
  #23  
ken78cvx20
My Feedback: (3)
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: sacramento, CA
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Happy to help and she fly's wonderful

Ken

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.