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Old 07-02-2004, 06:46 PM
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Default GP Giles G-202

Hey everybody,
wanted to show off my Giles but there wasnt any other forum that it could go in so I thought this would be a good one.
Jim
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Old 07-02-2004, 10:08 PM
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Looks great, I had built one a few years ago, and I never really got it trimmed to fly like I hoped it would.

Ended up wiping out a trainer in a nasty midair.
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Old 07-03-2004, 12:36 AM
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Loved mine....let us know how it flys!

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Old 07-03-2004, 05:06 PM
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Thanks for the great words guys it makes my day when I see nice coments about my plane![8D]
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Old 07-06-2004, 01:11 PM
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Sold mine after 25 flights because, same as Daven, I couldn't get it to fly like I like. Try to keep it as light as possible, specially in the nose, 'cause they all come out nose heavy. If I had to do it again, I'd go with a Saito 100.
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Old 07-06-2004, 03:22 PM
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I have a Webra 61 F lined up for this baby, and thanks for the tips I will remember that when im installing the equipment.
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Old 07-08-2004, 07:49 AM
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jessupboys,

Nice job on the build and covering! I have a 61FX in mine and it moves pretty well. No speed demon, but it pulls hard thru the aerobatics. Here's a couple shots of her. I hope you enjoy flying it as much as I do. Just be sure to ease yourself into high rates. This baby likes to get wild!
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Old 07-08-2004, 08:17 AM
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Hey, that is one awsome covering job its almost as good as mine
Thanks for the great words and sharing your Giles with me and the rest of RC Universe!!![8D]
Are the wheel pants on your Giles off a Shoestring?
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Old 07-08-2004, 08:34 AM
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Your good![sm=idea.gif] Yes, the wheel pants are from a wrecked Shoestring. I never used them on the Shoe anyway, and as you can see, they fit the color scheme very well.
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Old 07-08-2004, 09:49 AM
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Hows the vertical with the 61FX?
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Old 07-08-2004, 10:16 AM
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I haven't gotten to fly it with the 61FX yet, previous engine was a OS70 Surpass I. It was very poor with the 4 stroke, but i imagine it will get up with the 61FX on a 12x8MA. I will post results when I get a chance to test her out. I am hoping I can get some hover action out of it, even if it's up high.
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Primodus, if good vertical is what you're looking for, consider an APC 13X6 instead of the 12X8 for the .61. The flatter pitch prop will provide much better static thrust which is what you're looking for.
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Old 07-09-2004, 12:39 PM
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Primodus that would be great if you could post some results about the flight performence.
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Old 07-12-2004, 02:51 PM
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jessupboys,

I took my Giles out for maiden on Friday. She took off smooth and very little trim work was need to get her flying straight as an arrow. I was impressed withthe vertical performace of the 61FX, but while it was much better than the OS70, it was not unlimited. Unfortunatley the maiden flight was cut short in the prime. Post crash analysis revealed I had too much throw in the elevator even on low rates. Thus causing the plane to snap violently into a downward corkscrew. It feathered out and missed a few trees but headed out into a swampy area and landed in eight foot high weeds. The firewall was dislodged and will need replacing.Once this is accomplished I will attempt a second maiden on reduced elevator throws and a more nose heavy condition to "tame" this beast.
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Old 07-14-2004, 08:45 AM
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Sorry about your plane, but things happen. Is the 61FX broken in yet?
Because that would be a good reason for it not to have vertical because you would think it would have unlimited vertical in a 40 size plane with a 60.
last week i started to get some work doen on the as in installing the hardwear like servos engine mount stuff like that, and its going really good so far.
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Old 07-14-2004, 09:54 AM
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Glad to hear it's going easy for ya. I have replaced the firewall and will re-cover the nose tonight. The cowl repair is going smoothly and should be finished with a day or two of drying time, then on to painting. After that it's time to remount the engine and reset the throttle linkage. My 61FX is very well broken in and has good pull. I will re-test the vertical performance on the 2nd maiden.[8D]
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Old 07-19-2004, 05:18 PM
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Like I said before any input as to the performence of the Giles is widly excepted!!!!
As for the progress on the Giles, I have cut the covering off the bottom and installed Gold N' Rod push rods for the elevator and a pull-pull system for the rudder and I am prepearing to re-cover.I would have had my Webra mounted by now but I decided to replace the stock engine mount with a Hangar 9 thinknig the whole for the stock mount would work but not so, then I bough a Great Planes 40-70 engine mount thinking it was the one that came with kit but I was wrong there to[:@] so now I have to go and buy a 60-1.20 size mount.
But other than that its going very well I have all the servos mounted bt not conected to the rods yet.
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I finally got mine straight. It's a real performer in the air. The 61FX pulls it nicely and the recommended throws are right on. I had her knife edge about 5 feet off the deck on the first flight of the day. Very little coupling if any. Be wary of high elevator inputs, she'll snap on you in an instant. Pulling out of dives shoudl be gentle. Loops can be crisp but need to be managed well or it's snap time again. Be sure to balance laterally as well as normally. Lateral makes a huge difference in stall performance. Keep a little speed on landing as well, it's smooth, but not a trainer. If my digital camera wasn't out of batteries I would post a few in-flight pics. Good Luck and Blue Skies on your maiden. Keep your landings on the mains![8D]

Edit: In direct reference to vertical performance...using the 12x8MA still and it is not unlimited but still gains plenty of altitude before stalling. I have yet to acquire a 13x6APC like previously suggested due to my nearest LHS's being 45 miles away. Even without unlimited vertical, I am still very impressed with the performance through moves like the waterfall, blender, inside and outside loops and especially, the knife edge. The huge rudder throw and surface area will hold the plane up with ease. The 61FX seems to be plenty of power, I just need to prop it properly.
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I have had this plane for a couple of years, first with a K&B Twist-Head 61, which was "adequate" but not as authoritative as I would like, for use in our hot climate here (only 112 today). I put in a new Tower 75 several months ago, and it is a pretty satisfying airplane. I run a 12x8 APC, tried 13x6 but didn't like it quite as well. Knife edge is great, and one can do a sloppy knife-edge loop if you don't run out of nerve in the last quarter

Some of the comments in other posts above are correct about its desire to snap on hard pull-outs. Do not balance tail-heavy, and go easy on the elevator throws.

Ground handling is fine on asphalt, and landings are good if you keep a little speed on.

Enjoy your Giles, fellows!

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Old 07-21-2004, 08:35 AM
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WOW[X(],
The hottest its been here in Ontario is 84 thats just crazy, don't you're engine over heat?
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You call that hot? We hit 98 on Saturday with a heat index of 112. Not to mention the humidity...unbearable. No overheat problems yet, but I do run a little richer when its warmer.[8D] In doing so, loss of optimum RPM is expected. get it down to the 70's and your talking prime running time!
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Im just wondering Primodus, what state is "AL"?
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Sweet Home Alabama[8D]
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Old 07-21-2004, 09:05 AM
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Okay, I kinda figured that but I wasnt sure.
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How close are ya to maiden? Got that motor in yet?

Post a few pics of the finished product, ok? Can't wait to hear how your first flights go!
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