3D Deflection on the SIG SE
08-07-2002, 03:48 PM
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I'm about to try this and was wonder what some of you might think of it.
I'm thinking of adding 1/4" triangle stock to the leading edge of the ailerons, rudder and elevator. Then adding 3/8 triangle stock to the trailing edge of the wings, vertical and horizontal stab. Knock down the pointed edge a hair in order to make it easier to get the hinge in and with that I should be able to get up to 90 degrees of throw if I want it.
Also, I will be increasing the angle of the elevator next to the rudder by cutting away part of the inboard piece of the elevator. This will allow for the increased rudder throw.
Once I get comfortable with the plane I can then increase the throws as needed to perform 3D maneuvers.
Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking of adding 1/4" triangle stock to the leading edge of the ailerons, rudder and elevator. Then adding 3/8 triangle stock to the trailing edge of the wings, vertical and horizontal stab. Knock down the pointed edge a hair in order to make it easier to get the hinge in and with that I should be able to get up to 90 degrees of throw if I want it.
Also, I will be increasing the angle of the elevator next to the rudder by cutting away part of the inboard piece of the elevator. This will allow for the increased rudder throw.
Once I get comfortable with the plane I can then increase the throws as needed to perform 3D maneuvers.
Has anyone done this?
08-07-2002, 04:45 PM
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Why do all that when all the SE needs is a 200% larger rudder to fly 3D and hover? If you want to do flips and such, go get a Wasp or other 'fun fly' plane that will outfly the SE in that category. All the SE needs is a way larger rudder and lots of power up front (which means a longer gear). There are bunches of threads discussing the SE mods, etc. You might try a search on 'SE'
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You're giong to have a lot of fun getting +/- 90 degrees of throw with a single pushrod. Anything much over +/- 45 and the geometry gets pretty tough. Look into pull-pull, if you're serious.
08-07-2002, 06:08 PM
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This is my completely stock Sig SE. Not a single change was made to the kit. IMO it doesnt need anything else.
I just have the most throws I can get out of it with the stock surfaces.
It'll hover and harrier all day long. Webra .50 motor. 12x4 prop.
I just have the most throws I can get out of it with the stock surfaces.
It'll hover and harrier all day long. Webra .50 motor. 12x4 prop.
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If you wanna do knife-edge loops, give it some more rudder and be happy. There's plenty elevator and aileron in the stock config.
08-07-2002, 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by TerrellFlyer
If you're really determined to screw it up , why not set it in the driveway and just drive over it a few times
If you're really determined to screw it up , why not set it in the driveway and just drive over it a few times
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Why do all that when all the SE needs is a 200% larger rudder to fly 3D and hover?..........There are bunches of threads discussing the SE mods, etc. You might try a search on 'SE'
Why do all that when all the SE needs is a 200% larger rudder to fly 3D and hover?..........There are bunches of threads discussing the SE mods, etc. You might try a search on 'SE'
I am always open to new ideas and have yet to complete the ailerons elevators or rudder. I have completed the wings and I am working on the fuse. I will be making the fuse and tail a little lighter (several places for weight reduction- formers control surface and stab construction especially) and I may do a couple of other mods to enable me to use pull-pull which I prefer.
]Originally posted by wgeffon This is my completely stock Sig SE. Not a single change was made to the kit. IMO it doesn't need anything else.
I just have the most throws I can get out of it with the stock surfaces.
It'll hover and harrier all day long. Webra .50 motor. 12x4 prop.
I just have the most throws I can get out of it with the stock surfaces.
It'll hover and harrier all day long. Webra .50 motor. 12x4 prop.
Great to hear! I might just drop the increased throw and move forward.
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Adding the triangle stock is going to definatly help, be sure to cover your hinge gap, and I think you'll be really happy....I dont think you are going to have to worry about the aileron effectiveness. Yes, adding rudder is helpful.......I did the counterbalance, and it still wasn't as effective as I would have liked:
BTW, I did pull-pull on both rudder and elevator
BTW, I did pull-pull on both rudder and elevator
08-07-2002, 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by tmproff
BTW, I did pull-pull on both rudder and elevator
BTW, I did pull-pull on both rudder and elevator
You wouldn't happen to have a photo or drawing of how you installed it in the fuse. In the stock tray the servo's are to close together and the plane is not really big enough to warrant a tiller setup.
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I dont have pics of it, but I just carved out the servo tray a bit....it was a tight fit, but worked fine. Here is another pic of the tail:
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Rsallen13,
After talking with my flying buddy about his SE I added 1/2" to the ailerons, cut out the elevator for more rudder throw and added a 2" counter balance to the top of the rudder and 1" in length to the rudder. I let my friend fly it and now he's building another but with only my rudder mods. He said it didn't need any more aileron, but he loved the rudder.
I also need to mention that all the mods I did were behind the CG and required me to add 4oz on the nose to balance the plane. I'm flying mine with a ST51 and an APC 11x7, it flies great.
TiggerFlyer
After talking with my flying buddy about his SE I added 1/2" to the ailerons, cut out the elevator for more rudder throw and added a 2" counter balance to the top of the rudder and 1" in length to the rudder. I let my friend fly it and now he's building another but with only my rudder mods. He said it didn't need any more aileron, but he loved the rudder.
I also need to mention that all the mods I did were behind the CG and required me to add 4oz on the nose to balance the plane. I'm flying mine with a ST51 and an APC 11x7, it flies great.
TiggerFlyer
