Midwest Beercat
08-14-2005, 06:47 AM
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Midwest Beercat
couldn't help it, just wanted to show off my my latest build!
it's a Midwest Livewire Beercat that I found on Ebay, haven't flown it yet.
-a real fun build.
.40 size (got an old Royal in it)
47" wing(both)
Futabas all around
it's a Midwest Livewire Beercat that I found on Ebay, haven't flown it yet.
-a real fun build.
.40 size (got an old Royal in it)
47" wing(both)
Futabas all around
08-20-2005, 06:45 AM
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RE: Midwest Beercat
Thanks for the comments all,
out of curiosity, does anyone have any information or experience with flying this particular model?
still haven't flow it as I'm waiting on an incidence meter and had back surgery....
It's hard to follow a plane when you can't move your head[&o]
Thanks in advance!
out of curiosity, does anyone have any information or experience with flying this particular model?
still haven't flow it as I'm waiting on an incidence meter and had back surgery....
It's hard to follow a plane when you can't move your head[&o]
Thanks in advance!
10-25-2005, 06:19 AM
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RE: Midwest Beercat
Nice job! I miss my Beercat[&o]
I got one partially built by someone who was really awful at building and I salvaged it after the main parts had been built. Actually took a belt sander to some of it. Some of it's flying characteristics may have been tainted by this history but I can't be sure. Also, it was my first Bipe and it wasn't, isn't a floater.
My experience was to keep the speed up in the turns and landings. Flys like a CAP, almost. Use the rudder and keep the ailerons on low rates until it's comfortable. The nose dropped fast when slowing down. I ran an OS 40FX with, I think, an APC 11-4. When landing keep the the speed up and it will paste to the ground. It won't like a slow speed and overcontrolled movements close to the ground.
It looked great on the high and lower speed passes. My favorite was a dive approach, cut power late and land
You didn't mention what you've been flying so I hope this advice isn't insulting [8D]
Good luck on you're recovery. You're gonna love this plane. I've kept the plans and hope to build a scaled up version someday.
I got one partially built by someone who was really awful at building and I salvaged it after the main parts had been built. Actually took a belt sander to some of it. Some of it's flying characteristics may have been tainted by this history but I can't be sure. Also, it was my first Bipe and it wasn't, isn't a floater.
My experience was to keep the speed up in the turns and landings. Flys like a CAP, almost. Use the rudder and keep the ailerons on low rates until it's comfortable. The nose dropped fast when slowing down. I ran an OS 40FX with, I think, an APC 11-4. When landing keep the the speed up and it will paste to the ground. It won't like a slow speed and overcontrolled movements close to the ground.
It looked great on the high and lower speed passes. My favorite was a dive approach, cut power late and land
You didn't mention what you've been flying so I hope this advice isn't insulting [8D]
Good luck on you're recovery. You're gonna love this plane. I've kept the plans and hope to build a scaled up version someday.
11-26-2005, 10:56 PM
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RE: Midwest Beercat
Dragonjohn-read Woodbutchers comments well---I owned the normal 40 sized version and it was groovey(went where you pointed it!) was quick and agile, and you had to fly it all the time no relaxing on the sticks. His comparison was to a CAP and I would agree-even though it was a racer--I found that the 40 sized model was able to do most any aerobatic maneuver ----I repeat its agile and quick at full throttle. it will slow down a bit for landing and you may be surprised that the negative stagger config. will help you out on landings but you need to keep some power on and fly it on to the deck.
I liked this plane so much that 15+ years ago I blew the plans up -X-1.5 (just about 70 !QUOT! span Woodbuthcher--put a 1.20 4C on it and later a n ST 2500---what a great flying airplane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!well worth the time it took to do the drawings and build her up to that size. Any bad habits the smaller version had pretty much disappeared and it was a solid weekend flier(and my Beercat prob. had 200+ flights on her ) up until about 2 years ago when pilot error and a pine tree intervened !!
This is a great design--with a few odditys (like the way the CG is found--but follow the directions.)..and from the looks of you bird your gonna have some super flying!
just looked at the original date if anyone sees this------hope all worked out !
I liked this plane so much that 15+ years ago I blew the plans up -X-1.5 (just about 70 !QUOT! span Woodbuthcher--put a 1.20 4C on it and later a n ST 2500---what a great flying airplane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!well worth the time it took to do the drawings and build her up to that size. Any bad habits the smaller version had pretty much disappeared and it was a solid weekend flier(and my Beercat prob. had 200+ flights on her ) up until about 2 years ago when pilot error and a pine tree intervened !!
This is a great design--with a few odditys (like the way the CG is found--but follow the directions.)..and from the looks of you bird your gonna have some super flying!
just looked at the original date if anyone sees this------hope all worked out !
11-28-2005, 05:41 AM
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RE: Midwest Beercat
Clipwing, glad to hear the bigger version worked out ! That's inspiring.
If you did it again would you keep the ST2500 or go back to the 4S 120 ?
What did you do for a cowl?
Thanks. Woodbutcher.
If you did it again would you keep the ST2500 or go back to the 4S 120 ?
What did you do for a cowl?
Thanks. Woodbutcher.
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RE: Midwest Beercat
I love my Beercat.
It's a bit sensitive in pitch at high speeds. Will pick up speed real easy.
Mine has a Enya 46 4C and the firewall set back 1/4".
Balance per the plan and it has trouble slowing down to land but the ground manners are exceptionally good.
Anyone have the original box top or label?
Tom P
It's a bit sensitive in pitch at high speeds. Will pick up speed real easy.
Mine has a Enya 46 4C and the firewall set back 1/4".
Balance per the plan and it has trouble slowing down to land but the ground manners are exceptionally good.
Anyone have the original box top or label?
Tom P
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Yipes its 2013 and my last post on the Beercat was 11-2005......OH well I've been busy ! Woodbutcher if your still hanging around .....I'd likely go to a 150 sized 4 stroke for that extra umphh ! liked the 2500 ST but it was "large fro the nose of this plane . The cowl was layed up of foam and covered with Fibrerglass layed on and the foam cut away ....worked great ...
Cheers -to them who might stumble on the thread !
Cheers -to them who might stumble on the thread !
