Wheel-Wells Anyone?
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Wheel-Wells Anyone?
I'm surprised that I can't find any mention of wheel-well construction anywhere.
My specific interest is, naturally, for the model I'm building.
I'm building a TopFlite .60 size F4U Corsair.
The instructions mention a few tips for installing retracts, but no mention of wheel-well construction.
I've attached a picture of what my feeble brain has come up with, however it's raised a few eyebrows from friends who I've sent the pictures to. They all want to know if I'm going to make them round...
Uuuuh, golly... I really don't know what to do at this point, or what I SHOULD'VE done from the start...
One of my friends said use the top from a shaving cream can.
Anyone know of a brand of shaving cream that has a top 3 3/4 inches diameter?
Any advise would be welcome.
Thanks in advance,
Vic
My specific interest is, naturally, for the model I'm building.
I'm building a TopFlite .60 size F4U Corsair.
The instructions mention a few tips for installing retracts, but no mention of wheel-well construction.
I've attached a picture of what my feeble brain has come up with, however it's raised a few eyebrows from friends who I've sent the pictures to. They all want to know if I'm going to make them round...
Uuuuh, golly... I really don't know what to do at this point, or what I SHOULD'VE done from the start...
One of my friends said use the top from a shaving cream can.
Anyone know of a brand of shaving cream that has a top 3 3/4 inches diameter?
Any advise would be welcome.
Thanks in advance,
Vic
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You can also use the inner tubes for carpet and linolium. They do get up into the wheel sizes that you are looking for. You can also get a can with the dimensions that you want and wrap and glue wet blasa around the can. You can then glue the balsa wheel well in the wing and trim to fit. Good Luck, Dave
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Do you have any photos of the Corsair wheel wells? I suspect that they are not round. On my Spitfire, I tried several approaches. These were round wells. I started off making them with 1/64" ply, but was not satisfied with the results. Next, I use balsa that I soaked then wrapped around an appropriate sized can. Once installed, they formed nice wells. In an attempt to save a bit of weight, I ended up pulling them out and made new ones out of drafting mylar. I got the mylar at my local drafting/graphic arts store. The stuff is very thin and has a frosted coating on one side that takes paint very well. For the Corsair, I would consider making them out of mylar. It's easy to work with and will save you the work of trying to get a smooth finish on balsa inside the confines of the well. Mylar also works well as a material inside the cockpit too.
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Wheel wells are easy, I just made a pair for my p51. Use 1/32 balsa and soak it and then wrap it around an appropriately sized container, ca and then masking tape to hold everything in place while the glue sets. The trick is to bend the wood with the grain NOT against it. If you can't find a strip of 1/32 with the grain running the right direction then you'll have to do what I did and cut up little segments and then edge glue them to form one long strip with the grain running width wise that you can wrap around a container or something. If your 1/32 is too stiff then use 1/16 and once you have it wrapped around something just cut up another strip and wrap it around the first one to double it up. Perfectly round wheel wells guaranteed !! Hope this helps.
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Scooty:
Looks great! You know something? When I first looked at your pictures here (before I zoomed in) I thought it was a propane bottle. Then I zoomed in and realized it looks like a much smaller beer bottle of some kind.
THEN I GOT TO THINKING (now I'm dangerous...) THAT'S ONE THING I NEVER THOUGHT TO MEASURE!
I JUST NOW WENT TO THE GARAGE AND MEASURED THE DIAMETER OF A COLEMAN LANTERN GAS CANISTER. GUESS WHAT THE DIAMETER IS?
IT'S EXACTLY 3 3/4 INCH ACCROSS!
Another possible plus here is that the gas bottle has a little black plastic booty on the bottom that's about 1 1/2 inches high.
If I can't use that, I'll do the wrap-around balsa thing like you did.
I had previously spent some time running around the local grocery store and just couldn't find any can or bottle that was exactly 3 3/4 inch diameter.
Thanks again for the suggestions!
I'll post what I finally do later onl Give me a few days cuz I'm on a production roll with the fuselage.
Vic
Looks great! You know something? When I first looked at your pictures here (before I zoomed in) I thought it was a propane bottle. Then I zoomed in and realized it looks like a much smaller beer bottle of some kind.
THEN I GOT TO THINKING (now I'm dangerous...) THAT'S ONE THING I NEVER THOUGHT TO MEASURE!
I JUST NOW WENT TO THE GARAGE AND MEASURED THE DIAMETER OF A COLEMAN LANTERN GAS CANISTER. GUESS WHAT THE DIAMETER IS?
IT'S EXACTLY 3 3/4 INCH ACCROSS!
Another possible plus here is that the gas bottle has a little black plastic booty on the bottom that's about 1 1/2 inches high.
If I can't use that, I'll do the wrap-around balsa thing like you did.
I had previously spent some time running around the local grocery store and just couldn't find any can or bottle that was exactly 3 3/4 inch diameter.
Thanks again for the suggestions!
I'll post what I finally do later onl Give me a few days cuz I'm on a production roll with the fuselage.
Vic
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if you use a roll of tape and wet your balsa with windex or alcohol, the liquid will evap fast. then take the formed balsa and adjust the circle for a perfect fit most wheel wells are not perfectly round to allow for the movement of the retracts the spitfire is a perfect example, less for the F4U, and P-40 I used 1/16 balsa then reinforced the weak areas on the back side with small pieces before sheeting.
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couldn't you just make a square lid to bolt over the openings? then cut the round wheel opening and strut opening out? just make it like an access hatch with a cut area for the gear
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ORIGINAL: vbradley
I'm surprised that I can't find any mention of wheel-well construction anywhere.
My specific interest is, naturally, for the model I'm building.
I'm building a TopFlite .60 size F4U Corsair.
The instructions mention a few tips for installing retracts, but no mention of wheel-well construction.
I've attached a picture of what my feeble brain has come up with, however it's raised a few eyebrows from friends who I've sent the pictures to. They all want to know if I'm going to make them round...
Uuuuh, golly... I really don't know what to do at this point, or what I SHOULD'VE done from the start...
One of my friends said use the top from a shaving cream can.
Anyone know of a brand of shaving cream that has a top 3 3/4 inches diameter?
Any advise would be welcome.
Thanks in advance,
Vic
I'm surprised that I can't find any mention of wheel-well construction anywhere.
My specific interest is, naturally, for the model I'm building.
I'm building a TopFlite .60 size F4U Corsair.
The instructions mention a few tips for installing retracts, but no mention of wheel-well construction.
I've attached a picture of what my feeble brain has come up with, however it's raised a few eyebrows from friends who I've sent the pictures to. They all want to know if I'm going to make them round...
Uuuuh, golly... I really don't know what to do at this point, or what I SHOULD'VE done from the start...
One of my friends said use the top from a shaving cream can.
Anyone know of a brand of shaving cream that has a top 3 3/4 inches diameter?
Any advise would be welcome.
Thanks in advance,
Vic
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actually navy and marine based carrier planes had a glossy finish from the factory the myth that dull planes were out on the ocean is just that. the salt sea air would dull the paint over time depends what "state" your building new or used corsairs, hellcats ,wildcats, all had glossy finishes also night fighters were painted gloss black to reflect starlight ,flat colors absorb light, if you have been on a navy ship everything clean rules .
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RE: Wheel-Wells Anyone?
Gibbs: I'm tempted to just leave it as you suggest. I could always make it round later, if it survives it's first flight... [&:]
Foodstick: That's just what I might do if I do the round balsa form from the Coleman gas bottle.
Thanks all you guys for the suggestions. I've finished the upper half of the fuselage this weekend, and am moving onto the lower half this week.
"Any landing you walk away from is a GOOD landing..."
Vic
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I guess I wasn't very clear in my post. I should have asked if you had photos of a full sized Corsair.
Here's the best photos of the wheel well that I have.
Scott
Here's the best photos of the wheel well that I have.
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Vic
I don't understand your friends' comments as the real F4U has square wells - as you can see from Saramos' pix. Round wells are distinctly un-scale.
As a scale fan I would suggest you go with the square wells as modelled so far and then fit some doors later. That doesn't have to be complicated A small lever on the inside of the door can catch the wheel and pull the door closed behind the wheel.
Just my 2 penn'orth - but I think your plane is fine and forms the basis of a much more scale-like appearance later if you wish
Keep it up- you're doin' great!
cheers
Rick
I don't understand your friends' comments as the real F4U has square wells - as you can see from Saramos' pix. Round wells are distinctly un-scale.
As a scale fan I would suggest you go with the square wells as modelled so far and then fit some doors later. That doesn't have to be complicated A small lever on the inside of the door can catch the wheel and pull the door closed behind the wheel.
Just my 2 penn'orth - but I think your plane is fine and forms the basis of a much more scale-like appearance later if you wish
Keep it up- you're doin' great!
cheers
Rick
ORIGINAL: vbradley
I've attached a picture of what my feeble brain has come up with, however it's raised a few eyebrows from friends who I've sent the pictures to. They all want to know if I'm going to make them round...
Uuuuh, golly... I really don't know what to do at this point, or what I SHOULD'VE done from the start...
I've attached a picture of what my feeble brain has come up with, however it's raised a few eyebrows from friends who I've sent the pictures to. They all want to know if I'm going to make them round...
Uuuuh, golly... I really don't know what to do at this point, or what I SHOULD'VE done from the start...
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ORIGINAL: bigtim
actually navy and marine based carrier planes had a glossy finish from the factory the myth that dull planes were out on the ocean is just that. the salt sea air would dull the paint over time depends what "state" your building new or used corsairs, hellcats ,wildcats, all had glossy finishes also night fighters were painted gloss black to reflect starlight ,flat colors absorb light, if you have been on a navy ship everything clean rules .
actually navy and marine based carrier planes had a glossy finish from the factory the myth that dull planes were out on the ocean is just that. the salt sea air would dull the paint over time depends what "state" your building new or used corsairs, hellcats ,wildcats, all had glossy finishes also night fighters were painted gloss black to reflect starlight ,flat colors absorb light, if you have been on a navy ship everything clean rules .
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Spad: Thanks! Maybe I will leave it alone. Perhaps later do a square trap door.
Good news is the top AND bottom fuselage halfs are skinned now. Still have to do some minor work where the darned balsa split near the rear bottom area. I soaked it in the tub for over an hour, and it still split. Beginners luck, I guess, but I can fix it with balsa filler, and when I glass it, the strength will be there.
Later,
Vic
Good news is the top AND bottom fuselage halfs are skinned now. Still have to do some minor work where the darned balsa split near the rear bottom area. I soaked it in the tub for over an hour, and it still split. Beginners luck, I guess, but I can fix it with balsa filler, and when I glass it, the strength will be there.
Later,
Vic
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RE: Wheel-Wells Anyone?
Mine were square. It's been a while... I remember I had to make one extra rib for one of the wheel well walls. The other three walls are already there in the design. There are no contoured surfaces in there.
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Juice:
Thanks for the reply.
I had no idea my simple question would set off such a discussion! [X(]
Did you ever do trap doors? I'd be interested in seeing how those were done.
I like your picture of the bottom of the plane. I'm not quite that far yet with mine. Did you put extra doors in the belly pan? I'm doing the sectional flaps like you did also.
Vic
Thanks for the reply.
I had no idea my simple question would set off such a discussion! [X(]
Did you ever do trap doors? I'd be interested in seeing how those were done.
I like your picture of the bottom of the plane. I'm not quite that far yet with mine. Did you put extra doors in the belly pan? I'm doing the sectional flaps like you did also.
Vic