Top Flite Cessna 182 Skylane Build
07-16-2008, 07:04 PM
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Top Flite Cessna 182 Skylane Build
Here goes a build of a Top Flite Cessna 182 Skylane for my father. He has told me he wants it scale. So plan on panel lines, rivets, Cockpit, of course, opening doors and luggage doors, access doors, lights, wheels, strut, and some other things along the way. So far I think he wants electric, he may change his mind if not already, so this will leave the cowling intact.
07-17-2008, 02:46 PM
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RE: Top Flite Cessna 182 Skylane Build
Well today I got a head start on the interior. I got an idea from a build of one of these on RCSB to make some of the interior parts like the dash, pedals, steering wheels out of epoxy. If you have handled this interior kit before you know how flimsy it is, so that's why I'm doing it, in addition of me being able to detail it more. So this morning I tried making a dash out of 30min epoxy and micro balloons. It turned out okay, but because of the micro balloons, they did act like balloons, they expanded and caused a bubbling effect on the back. So next I tried 6min epoxy on the pedals and the center storage?, they turned out okay too, they were a little rough though, they didn't pick up all of the details. So finally I tried all with Pro Finishing epoxy, hoping for a better finish, I hope. It is still drying.
PS: I never knew I thought I would ever watch epoxy dry, second by second.
PS: I never knew I thought I would ever watch epoxy dry, second by second.
07-17-2008, 03:55 PM
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IMHO you're wasting your time with this epoxy thing. The reason the parts are so flimsy is so that the end result ends up extremely light. You stated your going to do all the bells and whistles on this plane.
You can't do that and keep it lite enough. You need to find every way possible to keep weight off. If you must strengthen these parts, simply CA a piece of balsa into the backsides. You have a long long build ahead of you.
I wouldn't waste time on the interior parts at this time...or odds are you'll end up with some strong arsed interior pieces made of epoxy that look inferior, and lose interest after that. The interior should be tackled at the point of actually being ready to install an interior.
I have built one of these planes to extreme scale and have used the yokes/pedals, etc. exactly as they were manufactured and have found nothing negative in doing so. (I made my own panel out of balsa and styrene...see attached pic)
Hate to throw any negativity into your thread, but you've jumped ahead to step 654 when you were doing so good. Besides, with Crisco embedded into the epoxy, how would you ever smoothly paint those parts.
Anyone who says that the stock interior parts art too weak and flimsy is missing the point, and probably too impatient to be building a model of this complexity anyway.
Now, put that interior back in its box and let's get started on those horizontal stabs.
Good luck and keep posting your progress.
SDC
You can't do that and keep it lite enough. You need to find every way possible to keep weight off. If you must strengthen these parts, simply CA a piece of balsa into the backsides. You have a long long build ahead of you.
I wouldn't waste time on the interior parts at this time...or odds are you'll end up with some strong arsed interior pieces made of epoxy that look inferior, and lose interest after that. The interior should be tackled at the point of actually being ready to install an interior.
I have built one of these planes to extreme scale and have used the yokes/pedals, etc. exactly as they were manufactured and have found nothing negative in doing so. (I made my own panel out of balsa and styrene...see attached pic)
Hate to throw any negativity into your thread, but you've jumped ahead to step 654 when you were doing so good. Besides, with Crisco embedded into the epoxy, how would you ever smoothly paint those parts.
Anyone who says that the stock interior parts art too weak and flimsy is missing the point, and probably too impatient to be building a model of this complexity anyway.
Now, put that interior back in its box and let's get started on those horizontal stabs.
Good luck and keep posting your progress.
SDC
07-17-2008, 04:25 PM
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RE: Top Flite Cessna 182 Skylane Build
Yours looks really good. But the way I saw it done came out well. The dash and the small components are the only things getting done in this fashion. Weight really isn't an issue for me because I plan on a 110 for power, electric that is. I do have some questions for you though, on your doors, since the floor isn't at the right height, did you cut them short, or lenghthen them? I have seen your website on teokies build and the doors looked fine.
07-17-2008, 04:35 PM
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Here was his build: (http://www.rcscalebuilder.com/forum/...063&PN=1&TPN=1) Also SDCrashmaster how did you go about with the plastic skinning? I will admit I am just trying this out, nothing is set in stone and I haven't ruined any of the plastic so far.
07-17-2008, 05:42 PM
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I lowered the floor by planing the formers. On the skin, you cut pieces to scale and deboss for rivet stress. Then sand the dimples off of the backside and CA to the sheeting, starting from the bottom back and working your way up and forward. Great documentation is key here. But the most important thing is to have fun!
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07-17-2008, 09:41 PM
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RE: Top Flite Cessna 182 Skylane Build
Well I listened to SDCrashmaster and started the stab late this afternoon, here are the results. I still have to do sheeting, which I left drying when I locked up my shop. Also the dash with the Finishing epoxy came out extremely well, no bubbles like the other one.
07-17-2008, 09:47 PM
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RE: Top Flite Cessna 182 Skylane Build
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SDC,
Your 182 is a work of art! Anyone that thinks (pounds) will not make a difference in a model has not taken a lead sled off.
SDC,
Your 182 is a work of art! Anyone that thinks (pounds) will not make a difference in a model has not taken a lead sled off.
07-18-2008, 12:15 PM
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I have read where these 182 come out on the tail heavy side. Is it enough to support putting a Zenoah G20 on the front? Minicrazy592 what are you planning on powering your model with?
07-18-2008, 12:50 PM
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I have read where these 182 come out on the tail heavy side. Is it enough to support putting a Zenoah G20 on the front? Minicrazy592 what are you planning on powering your model with?
I have read where these 182 come out on the tail heavy side. Is it enough to support putting a Zenoah G20 on the front? Minicrazy592 what are you planning on powering your model with?
07-18-2008, 02:01 PM
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IMHO you're wasting your time with this epoxy thing. The reason the parts are so flimsy is so that the end result ends up extremely light. You stated your going to do all the bells and whistles on this plane.
You can't do that and keep it lite enough. You need to find every way possible to keep weight off. If you must strengthen these parts, simply CA a piece of balsa into the backsides. You have a long long build ahead of you.
I wouldn't waste time on the interior parts at this time...or odds are you'll end up with some strong arsed interior pieces made of epoxy that look inferior, and lose interest after that. The interior should be tackled at the point of actually being ready to install an interior.
I have built one of these planes to extreme scale and have used the yokes/pedals, etc. exactly as they were manufactured and have found nothing negative in doing so. (I made my own panel out of balsa and styrene...see attached pic)
Hate to throw any negativity into your thread, but you've jumped ahead to step 654 when you were doing so good. Besides, with Crisco embedded into the epoxy, how would you ever smoothly paint those parts.
Anyone who says that the stock interior parts art too weak and flimsy is missing the point, and probably too impatient to be building a model of this complexity anyway.
Now, put that interior back in its box and let's get started on those horizontal stabs.
Good luck and keep posting your progress.
SDC
IMHO you're wasting your time with this epoxy thing. The reason the parts are so flimsy is so that the end result ends up extremely light. You stated your going to do all the bells and whistles on this plane.
You can't do that and keep it lite enough. You need to find every way possible to keep weight off. If you must strengthen these parts, simply CA a piece of balsa into the backsides. You have a long long build ahead of you.
I wouldn't waste time on the interior parts at this time...or odds are you'll end up with some strong arsed interior pieces made of epoxy that look inferior, and lose interest after that. The interior should be tackled at the point of actually being ready to install an interior.
I have built one of these planes to extreme scale and have used the yokes/pedals, etc. exactly as they were manufactured and have found nothing negative in doing so. (I made my own panel out of balsa and styrene...see attached pic)
Hate to throw any negativity into your thread, but you've jumped ahead to step 654 when you were doing so good. Besides, with Crisco embedded into the epoxy, how would you ever smoothly paint those parts.
Anyone who says that the stock interior parts art too weak and flimsy is missing the point, and probably too impatient to be building a model of this complexity anyway.
Now, put that interior back in its box and let's get started on those horizontal stabs.
Good luck and keep posting your progress.
SDC
07-18-2008, 02:29 PM
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RE: Top Flite Cessna 182 Skylane Build
Thanks for all the nice compliments on my TF 182 guys. Here's a couple more pics for those who haven't seen them before.
It's been about 8 years or so since I built her and she is resigned to the hangar. I clearly recall the tension involved every time she went skyward.
My worst memory was when I was flying on a street in an undeveloped Business Park and the takeoff roll went terribly wrong and the curb took out all 3 of the landing gear and ripped up the underside of the fuse real good.
It was around this time that I chose my RCU screen name
There is a short movie of my Cessna in the Prop Jobs theater, in the Video Vault at [link=http://www.ca-jets.com]www.ca-jets.com[/link]
If you've never been there before, be sure to look around a bit, and especially be sure to view the latest couple of California Jets movies.
Looking forward to watching this thread progress.
Thanks,
Paul
It's been about 8 years or so since I built her and she is resigned to the hangar. I clearly recall the tension involved every time she went skyward.
My worst memory was when I was flying on a street in an undeveloped Business Park and the takeoff roll went terribly wrong and the curb took out all 3 of the landing gear and ripped up the underside of the fuse real good.
It was around this time that I chose my RCU screen name
There is a short movie of my Cessna in the Prop Jobs theater, in the Video Vault at [link=http://www.ca-jets.com]www.ca-jets.com[/link]
If you've never been there before, be sure to look around a bit, and especially be sure to view the latest couple of California Jets movies.
Looking forward to watching this thread progress.
Thanks,
Paul
07-18-2008, 04:42 PM
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RE: Top Flite Cessna 182 Skylane Build
So here is what I got done today. I glued the sheeting together last night to let it dry. I started sheeting the top earlier this morning and got it done. After lunch I sheeted the bottom and is drying as I type. The bad news is I have run out of glue so I have to wait till tomorrow to go to my LHS to get some more, so no more building today.[
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Oh you maybe wondering about that pink bottle. It is called tak and place in a nut shell it is a glue that never really dries. It remains sticky and is wonderful for putting balsa on curved surfaces because it holds it there till the glue dries. I also use it for fiber glassing for keeping the cloth in place so not to cause anymore wrinkles.