What Plane Would You Want To See Turned Into A Kit?
08-05-2008, 03:08 PM
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If you kit a 25% to 30% Ryan STA the new OS inline will fit and even have a scale exhaust. If you kit it I will buy it
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08-05-2008, 04:36 PM
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There is a thread going in the Seaplane forum (titled Seaplane pictures) where Laddie M shows off his Shearwater flying boat. Beautiful design. V-Tail, pusher with the pylon above the forward mount cockpit. It would be nice to see something like that kitted up, but I think he is in contract with Balsa USA.
I also have a love of seaplanes and flying boats. Would be nice to sea something like the seamaster kitted since I think it is becoming harder to find the ARF version and it would be nice to build from a kit.
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Curtis
I also have a love of seaplanes and flying boats. Would be nice to sea something like the seamaster kitted since I think it is becoming harder to find the ARF version and it would be nice to build from a kit.
Regards,
Curtis
08-06-2008, 07:49 AM
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I like built up kits. Traditional balsa and ply. You can grind the foam up and sell it to a styrofoam cup manufacturer as far as I'm concerned. Also, carve and sand projects with massive chunks of balsa will turn me away. Laser cutting is nice, but not necessary. Die crunching is fine if the parts come out okay. A little fiberglass here and there is okay, but I'm not particularly fond of glass fuselages. What are ya gonna do when ya knock a hole in it? Not exactly easy to repair and if ever saw me land, you'd understand why I need a model thats easy to repair.
I like built up kits. Traditional balsa and ply. You can grind the foam up and sell it to a styrofoam cup manufacturer as far as I'm concerned. Also, carve and sand projects with massive chunks of balsa will turn me away. Laser cutting is nice, but not necessary. Die crunching is fine if the parts come out okay. A little fiberglass here and there is okay, but I'm not particularly fond of glass fuselages. What are ya gonna do when ya knock a hole in it? Not exactly easy to repair and if ever saw me land, you'd understand why I need a model thats easy to repair.
] Weird. "Grind up my foam and sell it to a cup maker?" OUCH. I'll have you know I buy the best foam possible direct from a local manufacturer. I just asked what planes would you like to see kitted in fiberglass and foam. If it doesn't appeal to you there is no need to criticize my choices, just don't post. I'm doing fiberglass and foam work because thats what I know, it's what I'm equipped to do and it makes good models. It's not a new, unproven concept.As for your landings, my flight instructor in full scale aircraft always said "Arrive as you departed" meaning, low speed, and nose high. [8D]
Just a reminder, here are the criteria I'm trying to work within:
[ul][*] Fiberglass body, foam wing cores [*] no bigger than the C-130 I offer on my website (108" Span, 61" Long) This is for shipping costs, primarily. [*] no more than two engines[*]no biplanes[*]must be propeller driven. [*]Please, no Mustangs, P-47's or other commonly kitted planes, the goal here is to make something unique, but appealing enough that I can justify making the tooling.
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Thanks to everyone who have given me many great ideas so far! I'll add up all the suggestions in a month or so and we can pick the top few to discuss at that point.
08-06-2008, 09:43 AM
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Maybe the poster doesn't like those materials as a result of a bad experience, who knows? I think every design should be engineered with the most appropriate material available. The reason I haven't scratch-built a Bulldog is because even a balsa/ply version needs a lot of fiberglass molds (pants, cowl, several fairings) and even if I had the skills it seems ludicrous to put that much work into a one-off.
From my own experience slope soaring in California, nothing is more durable than a sheeted and fiberglassed foam wing. I hit the side of mountains regularly at 70 mph and just wiped the mud off!
From my own experience slope soaring in California, nothing is more durable than a sheeted and fiberglassed foam wing. I hit the side of mountains regularly at 70 mph and just wiped the mud off!
08-06-2008, 10:14 AM
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Yeah I'm sure there's a reason he doesn't like it that is valid to him, and there are some planes I know I can't make with glass and foam so sure, everything has limits. But I agree, you can make ridiculously strong structure with little weight using glass composites. I am getting into making wings from 2 layers of glass and sheet balsa in a vac bag setup. The guy I learned from says this type of wing construction had demonstrated 40 g's of load before failing. That's amazing.
Hey- next seed I'll plant on here besides the Skyvan- anyone like the SkyBaby? That tiny little biplane... Quarter scale is only a 21" wingspan! maybe I'd make a 1/3 or 1/2 scale one....
Hey- next seed I'll plant on here besides the Skyvan- anyone like the SkyBaby? That tiny little biplane... Quarter scale is only a 21" wingspan! maybe I'd make a 1/3 or 1/2 scale one....
08-06-2008, 10:28 AM
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A Canadair CL-415, best of a couple of A/C worlds! I got somewhat of a start on the drawings, got the attached off the web, not my work.
08-06-2008, 10:42 AM
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Im telling you. the Diamond DA-42 TwinStar would be an awesome kit to build! it's such a fun plane to fly in real life. it would probably look most scale as an electric but i would like to see it kitted as a twin 30 cc gasser model. or it could be smaller. to 50 or 30 four strokes?
08-06-2008, 11:16 AM
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Oh I'm stewing on the TwinStar too- I haven't flown it but I have briefly flown a DA-40 so I am familiar with the family. Love the looks of all of them, you can really see the glider heritage. Plus being composite construction as full scale aircraft, they would easily lend themselves to composite RC model construction. Lots to think about.
08-06-2008, 12:03 PM
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Some of Us may not be comfortable with Fiberglass body, foam wing cores because we have never used them. This is not saying that We would not consider using them.
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08-06-2008, 03:07 PM
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Now THAT is a sweet looking plane. The paint reminds me of a Travel Air Mystery Ship. (Also a favorite.)
Anbody like the Shorts Skyvan? Goofy looking but I have been kicking that one around too.
Now THAT is a sweet looking plane. The paint reminds me of a Travel Air Mystery Ship. (Also a favorite.)
Anbody like the Shorts Skyvan? Goofy looking but I have been kicking that one around too.
hard working planes grow on you after awhile!
My "dream kit" would be a Cessna 180 all wood kit in 1/6 or 1/5 scale that would fly great on a .70
four-stroke. Please include a glass cowl, and pre-shaped wing struts. An optional interior kit, and
float set would be nice!
08-06-2008, 05:24 PM
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If you made the Twin Star i would have to be "glass". I guess the thing that would be tough would be buying the rights to the name. Horizon hobby made a "Super Airliner" that looks almost exactly like a 777. I think it would be way WAY cooler to have the actual name on the box. any way. Now i'm all excited about this. If i new how to glass, and had tones of time on my hand i would try to make one. If it was a kit i would for sure buy one. Unless it was electric. I'm not into electrics at all. I'm thinking of the scale of topflight's cessna 310 or bigger.
08-06-2008, 10:05 PM
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I want ALL of the airplanes to be put in kit form !! OK, I'll try to narrow down my choices. Hmmm. How about a King AIR and an Avanti
Added this later. I just read a very interesting article in MA. It was about electic powered jets. Seems they are on the threshold of producing really big units. Actually they are now. Some of these units can be dropped right in the old DF jet models. So, a nice Learjet or a Citation might be primed for the market place. I think they mentioned that BVM had PNP fan units ready to go now. Two of which would fly a very juicey bizjet !!
Added this later. I just read a very interesting article in MA. It was about electic powered jets. Seems they are on the threshold of producing really big units. Actually they are now. Some of these units can be dropped right in the old DF jet models. So, a nice Learjet or a Citation might be primed for the market place. I think they mentioned that BVM had PNP fan units ready to go now. Two of which would fly a very juicey bizjet !!
08-07-2008, 01:12 PM
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I have never worked with glass/foam, but I would be willing to try to get my cessna 180.
The Shorts Skyvan would be awsome! I can picture a parashute drop mechanism.[sm=idea.gif]
The Shorts Skyvan would be awsome! I can picture a parashute drop mechanism.[sm=idea.gif]