drube

Hi guys,

I was reading mistermnkim's great thread on the Elder 40 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8106291/tm.htmbut can't seem to find them anywhere. Actually I couldn't findany WW1 kits. Are they still available?I like bi planes but after seeing the Elder 40 i'm hooked! lol Are any other planes similar to the Elder?

Thanks

Jose Machado

I sugest Proctor Enterprises http://www.proctor-enterprises.com/

foodstick

Balsa usa has nice looking and flying WW1 kits from medium electric size up to 1/3 scale gas. They aren't the most scale kits around, but they won't bother most people. And they fly pretty well most are babies. You need to be a student of detail to be bothered by them.

Proctor makes super realistic stuff.. and there are some small electric kit sellers..the site name escapes me at the moment.

drube

Thanks Jose, I've seen the Proctor site before, great stuff! Didn't see manymodels for the "monoplane"catagory. Foodstick, Iforgot about Balsa USA. I'll check them out.

drube

I just noticed Tower has the Elder due late Nov. Kewel!

thibor

Hey,

check out Glenn Torrance Models for some very nice scale WW1 birds.
Flairmodels also has a good name.

BUSA has a wide range of WW1-birds, which look pretty good and special thoughts has gone in the flight characteristics.

Other WW1 - monoplanes are for example the Bristol M-1, Etrich Taube, Fokker Eindecker, Fokker D-VIII, Morane Saulnier A-1, ...

Phil

FentonFlyer

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http://www.proctor-enterprises.com/p...monoplanes.htm

ByLoudDesign

Try Arizona Model Aircrafters!!!!

MajorTomski

Drube, you do know that the Elder is not a real WW-I aircraft? It's just a look like the age sort of thing. I flew an Elder 20 for years till a student rekitted it for me through a tree.

I don't know if Top Flite fixed the 40 sized plane but there were a couple of problems with the .20 sized bird. #1 The rudder was WAY too small! It almost would not turn in the air. Doubling the size of the rudder fixed that, going with ailerons solved all the problems. I think the 40 sized one was designed for ailerons from the beginning.

#2 the landing gear is WAY too far forward. The origial intent was to prevent nose overs under all conditions. It does that but it also makes a huge moment arm from the CG to the gear. the 20 sized one could not be landed smoothly because all it would do is bounce. If you do get a hold of a kit, then consider adding a landing gear mouning block back in the fuselage. This is so you can turn the landing back making the old rear mount the new front mount. The "as is" design is a V with a shorter set of legs going forward to the fire wall. If you move the whole assembly back and mount the front legs in the same place near the leading edge of the wing, and mount the longer legs of the V back under the wing in the new mounting block mentioned above it still sets up good gear geometry to prevent most nose overs and stops the heavey bouncing.


OH and it SCREAMS for a quiet four stroke. Don't worry about going up in size you're going to be flying at 1/4 throttle anyways

MTC
YMMV

Good luck with the kit.

Tom

KitBuilder

[link=http://aerodromerc.com/]Aerodromerc[/link] has real nice electric kits... 60" or so and smaller.. quite a few of them.
Mike

foodstick

Aerodromerc ...that's the name I couldn't recall ! I would like to have one of each of there kits.... nice stuff.

drube

Thanks guys!
Tom,I read somewhere that the Elder was from the WW1 era but a combination of a few planes. Is that correct? Thanks for the great tips!

drube

Thanks Phil, that helps alot!

drube

Wow thanks! I see lots I like!

GaryHarris

lol, me too!

Steve Percifield

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The Elder is just fantasy scale, reminiscent of the Eindecker type aeroplane.

check out the website www.hoosierdawnpatrol.com. there are hundreds of pictures and video of WW1 models, plus links to about every WW1 manufacture out there.


steve
www.hoosierdawnpatrol.com

jmohn

Another good source is 3seabees. They have some very nice kits in 1/5 & 1/6 scale.

http://www.3seabees.com/


Jeff

drube

Wow thanks guys!

I'm looking for40 to 60 size glow. Steve I need to find a local ww1 club to join thanks for the link.

This a neat looking plane.I wonderhow rigid the landing gear is and how it would do on grass.




Blackburn

MajorTomski

Four other candidates in the size you're looking for that are a bit closer to scale are the Balsa USA Taube and Eindecker both come in 40 and 90 size. The 90's will fly on a strong 60.


http://www.balsausa.com/store/product.php?id_product=46
http://www.balsausa.com/store/product.php?id_product=45
http://www.balsausa.com/store/product.php?id_product=44
http://www.balsausa.com/store/product.php?id_product=43