Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood.
11-18-2010, 11:58 PM
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RE: Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood.
Mark,
[RE: Post #225] Thanks for kicking me and making me go look again...I knew about F/G Specialties, but when I looked, for some reason, I looked completed over the "KITS" section...duhhhh, [sm=bananahead.gif] oh well, found it now...thanks again.
Michael,
[RE: Post #220] Conversion looks nice...be sure to post your specs when you get it finished (weight if different +/-, Performance, etc) and if you have more pics, any mods you did to accomplish the conversion...good job! [sm=teeth_smile.gif]
Thanks guys!
[RE: Post #225] Thanks for kicking me and making me go look again...I knew about F/G Specialties, but when I looked, for some reason, I looked completed over the "KITS" section...duhhhh, [sm=bananahead.gif] oh well, found it now...thanks again.
Michael,
[RE: Post #220] Conversion looks nice...be sure to post your specs when you get it finished (weight if different +/-, Performance, etc) and if you have more pics, any mods you did to accomplish the conversion...good job! [sm=teeth_smile.gif]
Thanks guys!
11-19-2010, 06:13 PM
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RE: Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood.
ORIGINAL: peternj
Ok, looks like I have a little project. I'll run down to kinkos and get the plans scanned into electronic format. This way thay can be printed in full size on a plotter printer. Once I have this we'll take it from there. I guess we'll need to encode the ribs and formers into cad so they can be cut out. Do you know a good lazer cutting place or have a CNC machine?
ORIGINAL: alfredbmor
Peter, just let me know how I can help, of course I'd like to make a short kit ''just in case''
Alfred.
ORIGINAL: peternj
Duh! Why didn't I think of this before. I have an idea.... I do have my old plans plus a set of two new ones! (Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 .90 kit plans) I will look into making electronic copies of them and posting them for 'DA HOOD!' Since I'm not profiting I guess I can share them with friends, right? They should have all the pieces on them that can be cut out, if not I'll trace the formers and ribs onto paper as I progress with the build... you can than either scratch build them or find someone who can laser cut a short kit.... There's a fiberglass place that sells the cowl and wheel pants. The cock pit.... a 2 liter clear plastic soda bottle ought to do the trick. That was my original path but I coldn't find a reliable laser cutting place..... Just a thought, let me know if you guys are interested. It's worth every second and penny to build this kit... Mine flew great, handled like it was on rails, and its roll rate would leave my eyes spinning....
Duh! Why didn't I think of this before. I have an idea.... I do have my old plans plus a set of two new ones! (Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 .90 kit plans) I will look into making electronic copies of them and posting them for 'DA HOOD!' Since I'm not profiting I guess I can share them with friends, right? They should have all the pieces on them that can be cut out, if not I'll trace the formers and ribs onto paper as I progress with the build... you can than either scratch build them or find someone who can laser cut a short kit.... There's a fiberglass place that sells the cowl and wheel pants. The cock pit.... a 2 liter clear plastic soda bottle ought to do the trick. That was my original path but I coldn't find a reliable laser cutting place..... Just a thought, let me know if you guys are interested. It's worth every second and penny to build this kit... Mine flew great, handled like it was on rails, and its roll rate would leave my eyes spinning....
Alfred.
If you get the plans/templates in electronic format, I'd sure be appreciative of a copy if you don't mind...I have the kit and the paper plans, but I did not trace the templates before I framed the craft. I have not flown mine, but am getting back on it after many years, and if they fly nearly as well as most say, I will want to build another down the road for sure. Thanks in advance for your efforts!
11-19-2010, 10:49 PM
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RE: Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood.
Have to mention here, the Seagull Ultimae Canopy fits and is only 3 bucks or so, got me 2 spares, unfotunaly the cowling is an inch taller and wount fit clean, tried that, will try the landing gear next, have one with a Funtana 90 landing gear on it but is kinda low, gets tight with 16 inch propps
11-21-2010, 07:57 PM
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RE: Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood.
Here is my ultimate I got it for free a few years ago. I'm not even sure what brand it is. What I would like is if anyone could tell me the brand and where I could get a wing kit for it.I only have the bottom wing it is 54inches long, on the bottom of the wing it says blue hawk if that helps anyone in identifing it. It's not near as nice as the rest of your guys ultimates but hopefully when I'm done rebuiling it it will fly just as good. Thanks for any help
11-21-2010, 10:48 PM
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RE: Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood.
Finaly, DLE 20 conversion done
Specs :
weight 9lbs 02 0z, 3 oz heavier then YS 120 (dry), but 8 oz tank veresa 22 oz tank and 1.5 0z less ballast on the tail, even with all rear Servos there in there
6 JR 3421 Digitals, 4 on Alilerons and 2 on Elevators
Hitec 5645 Digital on Rudder
and a ???? Futaba mini for throttle
XOAR 17X6 Propp, Dave Brown Ultimat style Spinner
last but not least 2300 mah A123 Battery for receiver and batt. eliminator (syssa) for power(1650 mah 5 cell Nih before)
by reading specs DLE 20 and fuel consumption, I cant go wrong here
Take here out Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday and will report flight performance
have a great evening here
Michael
11-22-2010, 09:51 AM
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RE: Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood.
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Here is my ultimate I got it for free a few years ago. I'm not even sure what brand it is. What I would like is if anyone could tell me the brand and where I could get a wing kit for it.I only have the bottom wing it is 54inches long, on the bottom of the wing it says blue hawk if that helps anyone in identifing it. It's not near as nice as the rest of your guys ultimates but hopefully when I'm done rebuiling it it will fly just as good. Thanks for any help
Here is my ultimate I got it for free a few years ago. I'm not even sure what brand it is. What I would like is if anyone could tell me the brand and where I could get a wing kit for it.I only have the bottom wing it is 54inches long, on the bottom of the wing it says blue hawk if that helps anyone in identifing it. It's not near as nice as the rest of your guys ultimates but hopefully when I'm done rebuiling it it will fly just as good. Thanks for any help
I have the patterns for the parts to the CG Ultimate that you have there if you want to PM me with your address I can mail you the rib pattern you need to build a new wing. Do you have the plan for the CG ultimate?
11-23-2010, 07:47 AM
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RE: Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood.
If it helps you out, i have on ribb for the cabane attachment (original) for a patternand a section of the Plan for the wing, actualy have a whole Plan set, used 3 times but stii useabel if yoy need it. The build is pretty straight forward and not very complicate. Also have the original Aileron strips if i remember right. I made a bunch of changes on the last one i build and had stuff left over
Let me know if you want it, just compensate me for the Postage and im good
Michael
Let me know if you want it, just compensate me for the Postage and im good
Michael
11-23-2010, 05:05 PM
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ORIGINAL: raubold
Finaly, DLE 20 conversion done
Specs :
weight 9lbs 02 0z, 3 oz heavier then YS 120 (dry), but 8 oz tank veresa 22 oz tank and 1.5 0z less ballast on the tail, even with all rear Servos there in there
6 JR 3421 Digitals, 4 on Alilerons and 2 on Elevators
Hitec 5645 Digital on Rudder
and a ???? Futaba mini for throttle
XOAR 17X6 Propp, Dave Brown Ultimat style Spinner
last but not least 2300 mah A123 Battery for receiver and batt. eliminator (syssa) for power(1650 mah 5 cell Nih before)
by reading specs DLE 20 and fuel consumption, I cant go wrong here
Take here out Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday and will report flight performance
have a great evening here
Michael
Finaly, DLE 20 conversion done
Specs :
weight 9lbs 02 0z, 3 oz heavier then YS 120 (dry), but 8 oz tank veresa 22 oz tank and 1.5 0z less ballast on the tail, even with all rear Servos there in there
6 JR 3421 Digitals, 4 on Alilerons and 2 on Elevators
Hitec 5645 Digital on Rudder
and a ???? Futaba mini for throttle
XOAR 17X6 Propp, Dave Brown Ultimat style Spinner
last but not least 2300 mah A123 Battery for receiver and batt. eliminator (syssa) for power(1650 mah 5 cell Nih before)
by reading specs DLE 20 and fuel consumption, I cant go wrong here
Take here out Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday and will report flight performance
have a great evening here
Michael
I have a DLE waiting for me to pick up. Igot a bunch to do yet.
11-23-2010, 11:03 PM
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RE: Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood.
Man kakapoohpooh, weather did not comply with my flight plans, maybe tomorrow, i'm hot for the testflight. let you guys know here soon
Michael
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11-26-2010, 06:51 PM
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RE: Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood.
Finaly, DLE 20 conversion done
Specs :
weight 9lbs 02 0z, 3 oz heavier then YS 120 (dry), but 8 oz tank veresa 22 oz tank and 1.5 0z less ballast on the tail, even with all rear Servos there in there
6 JR 3421 Digitals, 4 on Alilerons and 2 on Elevators
Hitec 5645 Digital on Rudder
and a ???? Futaba mini for throttle
XOAR 17X6 Propp, Dave Brown Ultimat style Spinner
last but not least 2300 mah A123 Battery for receiver and batt. eliminator (syssa) for power(1650 mah 5 cell Nih before)
by reading specs DLE 20 and fuel consumption, I cant go wrong here
Take here out Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday and will report flight performance
have a great evening here
Michael
Todays flght report first time out wth the DLE 20 6 flights:
OK, starts like or better than my DA 50 i had, fist start 15 flips choked and responded, choke open 3 flips and she runs. The DLE 20 runs defenetly smoother than the YS120 i had on it, to the performance, no different then the YS, spools up a liitle slower but other than the mssing smoke trail no difference in power. Upline with moderate pattern style snaps the Ultimate does not fall appart and keeps climbing like it should be with this Engine. Restars after 30 min cool down and check over at 40 F, no choke 1 flipp and the DLE is alive and no sputter or rumble when throttled up cold, 20 foot take offs and straight up with ample power, patter sequence all just over half throttle.
Defenetly enough Power Plant for one of these nice Biplanes, after 6 flights today i would state that this setup is fully satifactoty for this Plane
Cant wait till she is broken in, i am happy and say No to Glow for 90 size Airframes form now on
All have a great Week end here
Michael
11-26-2010, 08:18 PM
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Michael,
Outstanding. Glad to hear the favorable results. Sounds like the CGU was designed for this engine. Looking forward to flight videos! I will definitely be mounting this engine on mine when I finish it up [hopefully] this winter...Hope all had a great Holiday!
Outstanding. Glad to hear the favorable results. Sounds like the CGU was designed for this engine. Looking forward to flight videos! I will definitely be mounting this engine on mine when I finish it up [hopefully] this winter...Hope all had a great Holiday!
11-27-2010, 11:16 PM
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raubold,
That was a nice report. Just wait to when that DLE20cc engine gets broke in. Better yet to come! Capt,n
That was a nice report. Just wait to when that DLE20cc engine gets broke in. Better yet to come! Capt,n
11-28-2010, 01:29 AM
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I have a couple of NIB Goldberg Ultimate Biplane ARFs (two different color schemes). You are giving me the inspiration to saddle up one of my 1.20 ARFs with my yet unran DLE 20cc engine. Thanks!
Now to find a kit of the same. I had one years ago. Wish I had held on to it. A good friend did a beautiful job of building it for me. Superb construction and finish, but things popped up in my personal life that caused me to dispose of it, unflown. Hopefully, I'll get one of these two ARFs airborne soon. Good luck with your Ultimate Biplane.
Ed Cregger
Now to find a kit of the same. I had one years ago. Wish I had held on to it. A good friend did a beautiful job of building it for me. Superb construction and finish, but things popped up in my personal life that caused me to dispose of it, unflown. Hopefully, I'll get one of these two ARFs airborne soon. Good luck with your Ultimate Biplane.
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11-28-2010, 02:20 AM
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RE: Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood.
ORIGINAL: raubold
Finaly, DLE 20 conversion done
Specs :
weight 9lbs 02 0z, 3 oz heavier then YS 120 (dry), but 8 oz tank veresa 22 oz tank and 1.5 0z less ballast on the tail, even with all rear Servos there in there
6 JR 3421 Digitals, 4 on Alilerons and 2 on Elevators
Hitec 5645 Digital on Rudder
and a ???? Futaba mini for throttle
XOAR 17X6 Propp, Dave Brown Ultimat style Spinner
last but not least 2300 mah A123 Battery for receiver and batt. eliminator (syssa) for power(1650 mah 5 cell Nih before)
by reading specs DLE 20 and fuel consumption, I cant go wrong here
Take here out Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday and will report flight performance
have a great evening here
Michael
Todays flght report first time out wth the DLE 20 6 flights:
OK, starts like or better than my DA 50 i had, fist start 15 flips choked and responded, choke open 3 flips and she runs. The DLE 20 runs defenetly smoother than the YS120 i had on it, to the performance, no different then the YS, spools up a liitle slower but other than the mssing smoke trail no difference in power. Upline with moderate pattern style snaps the Ultimate does not fall appart and keeps climbing like it should be with this Engine. Restars after 30 min cool down and check over at 40 F, no choke 1 flipp and the DLE is alive and no sputter or rumble when throttled up cold, 20 foot take offs and straight up with ample power, patter sequence all just over half throttle.
Defenetly enough Power Plant for one of these nice Biplanes, after 6 flights today i would state that this setup is fully satifactoty for this Plane
Cant wait till she is broken in, i am happy and say No to Glow for 90 size Airframes form now on
All have a great Week end here
Michael
Finaly, DLE 20 conversion done
Specs :
weight 9lbs 02 0z, 3 oz heavier then YS 120 (dry), but 8 oz tank veresa 22 oz tank and 1.5 0z less ballast on the tail, even with all rear Servos there in there
6 JR 3421 Digitals, 4 on Alilerons and 2 on Elevators
Hitec 5645 Digital on Rudder
and a ???? Futaba mini for throttle
XOAR 17X6 Propp, Dave Brown Ultimat style Spinner
last but not least 2300 mah A123 Battery for receiver and batt. eliminator (syssa) for power(1650 mah 5 cell Nih before)
by reading specs DLE 20 and fuel consumption, I cant go wrong here
Take here out Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday and will report flight performance
have a great evening here
Michael
Todays flght report first time out wth the DLE 20 6 flights:
OK, starts like or better than my DA 50 i had, fist start 15 flips choked and responded, choke open 3 flips and she runs. The DLE 20 runs defenetly smoother than the YS120 i had on it, to the performance, no different then the YS, spools up a liitle slower but other than the mssing smoke trail no difference in power. Upline with moderate pattern style snaps the Ultimate does not fall appart and keeps climbing like it should be with this Engine. Restars after 30 min cool down and check over at 40 F, no choke 1 flipp and the DLE is alive and no sputter or rumble when throttled up cold, 20 foot take offs and straight up with ample power, patter sequence all just over half throttle.
Defenetly enough Power Plant for one of these nice Biplanes, after 6 flights today i would state that this setup is fully satifactoty for this Plane
Cant wait till she is broken in, i am happy and say No to Glow for 90 size Airframes form now on
All have a great Week end here
Michael
Thanks raubold.
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RE: Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood.
Hi Alfred,
Like to join your wonderful brainchild too! My first ever kit was the CG Ultimate - sadly lost it when she was still a young bird, full speed dive and the elevator clevis snapped. Have acquired a secondhand 30% CG Ultimate, the covering was a bit tatty and I am in the process of stripping it. Will post pictures as I go along of the the new covering job which I am still playing with at the moment. She will be hauled around with a 75cc 3W.
Cheers
Toby
Like to join your wonderful brainchild too! My first ever kit was the CG Ultimate - sadly lost it when she was still a young bird, full speed dive and the elevator clevis snapped. Have acquired a secondhand 30% CG Ultimate, the covering was a bit tatty and I am in the process of stripping it. Will post pictures as I go along of the the new covering job which I am still playing with at the moment. She will be hauled around with a 75cc 3W.
Cheers
Toby
11-28-2010, 06:21 PM
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RE: Carl Goldberg Ultimate 10-300 Brotherhood.
I would like to join Ive built two years ago I have one in the box got it at the Toledo show at the swap meet love this plane.