If they were to go with mandatory service, the gang situation would be totally different. Unless a whole gang went into the same branch of service at the same time, all had the same MOS and secondary training locations AND all got posted the same place after training, the gang would pretty much fall apart through a loss of communication. I, for one, can't see a whole group of kids being allowed to stay together for that long since the detailers will send people where they are needed, not to where their friends are. I can't say it's the same as when I was in the Navy but, unless the military has gone "country club", it will still change those that go in. That is most true for the Army and Marines.

Or being convicted of murder for doing your job. Sure 16 rounds is excessive, but unless a person has been in that situation, they will never know.

Trust me, being shot at is not an experience you ever want to have, been there had that, from an AK-47
If I was a police officer, I wouldn't hesitate to draw a gun on someone if I felt threatened. What I would do, however, is hold off on putting my finger on the trigger until I was sure firing was my last resort.

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This is my Somethin Extra. Powered with an OS .46 AX. Tons of power and this plane is a great deal of fun. Easy build and really a nice kit, just like all other SIG kits they are just awesome!!!!

VERY nice plane!!!! Well done!

Great covering job!

OK Sig Brotherhood. I've been dragging this kit around for 30 or so years. Time to build my Somethin' Extra. However, I'm of a mind to change some things about it. Been doing some research and have come up with the following ideas. Tell me what you think.

Trike gear - simple operation to do. I just like trikes for sport planes.
NIB OS .61 FSR vice a .46. Have both on hand. Might have to do some mods (wider) to the fuselage to accommodate the 61 and in particular, a suitable tank for it.
Side mount motor with a pitts style muffler and cowl the thing in. Maybe cowl cheeks for some style. :)
New wing that tapers the TE and is a bit longer to maintain the sq inches. Also incorporates the ailerons and flaps into the TE vice the slab additions in the kit. Would make new ribs, etc for this wing and preserve the original. Maybe go with both wings and see which one I like best.

Thoughts?

I wouldn't modify the SSE wing in any way shape or form. It does very well just as it is! You may induce stall tendencies at HAOA that it wouldn't normally have. The SSE can Harrier with the wing as it is, so no need for flaps either. Heck I was able to bring the plane down with minor damage when the elevator servo failed in the up position thanks to the wing. Guys behind me thought I was messing around, not knowing I had no elevator control! As far as trike, hmm, possible, but don't know how it would affect the aerodynamics. Will be interesting for sure.

My main complaint with the wing is it just looks too much like a converted control line model. (Who knows? Maybe it is!) But I simply do not like it. My thought is to add some 4-5 inches to the length of the wing and taper the TE accordingly to keep the same wing area. Airfoil will be the same however this too will be thinned as you go to the wingtip. I know of similar wing mods that have resulted in superior performance.

I think the plane flies exceptionally well as built and honestly, when wanting to make modifications to airfoils and such it may be easier just to design your own bird based on your own experience and performance you seek. This plane just is what it is, if my memory serves me correctly, the designer did fly control line for years so there is some influence on the bird from that.

So, I've ALWAYS LOVED Sig kits and am very thankful that they are still offered. I'm currently finishing up a 4Star .40......built my 1st one 21yrs. ago as my very first kit ever!
Anyway, I'm really wanting to build a Kougar/Kobra and possibly a SSE. On the SSE, how does it do with high speed tumbling type maneuvers etc? In other words, can a person get a good crankshaft or KE spin out of it? What about a PopTop? I'm just curious as to how they handle hardcore aerobatics (XA type flying). I've heard it said many times that they "fly good" just wondering if anyone could elaborate on that.

As I understand it, the Somethin' Extra uses the same wing as the Fazer.

While the Fazer is a profile RC model, the instruction book shows how to build it a a controline plane, with coupled flaps and elevator control.

It also just so happens that the kit number for the Fazer is 68 and that for the Somethin' Extra is 76. So the Fazer was produced first.

Since Sig no longer publishes these things, I dug into my archive to check the Fazer manual, where the designer talks about the reasoning and inspiration for the design.

Check it out on page 1.

Interestingly enough, right now there's a built Fazer on the bay - converted to C/L. Priced at $175 (at the moment), it's not totally out of line.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Control-Lin...Lxb:rk:23:pf:0

Inventor48
 

Hi I am beginning to restore a Bravo.
Have gathered together all the bits and pieces, except the Tail Cone.
Anyone have one or know where I may find one.

Thanks

Hey! Welcome to the SIG Brotherhood. Hoping some of the guys here can help in your restoration. Bravos are always good planes to work with.

Welcome !

A friend and I have both built the Bravo. We feel that the tail cone can be shaped from block balsa.

I would tend to agree which is probably why the only Bravo fiberglass part you can't get from Fiberglass Specialties is the tail cone.

Hi
Thanks for your responses.
Fabing up a tail cone was my plan "B" and looks like that will become plan "A".
I have all the available parts from Fiberglass Specialties and I must say there are very good
quality and require only some minor fitting. A light sand and ready to paint.
As I move along I will have some questions, goal is to have plane look like it did in 1985.
I have a Quadra Q35 engine and to me it is a monster in physical size and weight, but want to use it as it came with the plane.
The fire wall was damaged so I have removed it.
Noted that the plan seems to call for a 1/4" or 3/8" ply, but the engine manual calls for a 1/2'' fire wall.
Any suggestions.

Also I am starting a four star 40 kit, that will be modified. But that's another project will talk about an other time.

Again many thanks to all .

You could easily laminate another piece of ply to the firewall, if you feel that it is necessary.

My Bravo was built as the kit suggested and I had no problems with my firewall, using a Zenoah G-38.

Ten posts yet?
 

Ten posts yet?

Has it been 10 posts?
 

10 posts this time?

Need 10 posts
 

Are we at 10 yet?

Well, I see you joined RCU in 2017 and are at 9 posts, so one more post and you hit that magic number 10. I imagine it must be a magic number. :D

dang things never work out for me, I was going to order a SIG's 4 Star 64 "kit" yesterday, but they don't come as a kit

Jim