helidreamer-RCU

Can someone please tell me how to change between RRS and FRS on the Caliber 30. I'm a beginner and don't understand how the manual explains it. I know it has something to do with the PItch rod and that you have to twist it. Can someone ewxplain what's going on?

davidj

If you are using the EMS use the FRS. The RRS (training mode) is not recommended. The C30 hovers very smoothly and if you reduce the ATV or reduce the swashplate you can make it like the training mode.

helidreamer-RCU

I thank you for that but can you still explain how to change between training and non training mode. I'm just interested.

helidreamer-RCU

And since i'm a beginner this question might sound stupid but, what's an ATV and how do you reduce the swashplate?

davidj

No question asked is stupid, only the ones not asked. ATV stands for Adjustable Travel Volume. It can adjust the total through of the servo. The swashplate settings are a set of numbers that the radio uses to mix the 3 servos together to give you the correct swashplate movement. I have only used the FRS mode and believe the other RRS mode is not needed. I strongly suggest you find someone near you to help you set up and fly the C30 before you try it for yourself. This will save you many hours scratching your head and $$$$$. You will learn a lot and will get a much better understanding of what this heli flying thing is all about.

helidreamer-RCU

Thank you David I got it now.

David B

besunta

Your're right, the manual doesn't explain very well how to change it to trainner ... you have to change your pitch rod's as it is in the manual but what they don't say in the manual is:

rotate the blade holders 180 º so that they will fix at the rod in the other side, to do this you have to take out the blades so that they don't rotate with the blade holders and stay in their position.

I would prefer to show you some pictures but I've got mine with non training..

randy41

I agree with david and would set it up in frs mode( I did).
I set the swash setting to -50 -50 +50 in stead of -65 -65 +65
as the manual states. You can mess with the swash settings
in your radio and make the caliber as gentle as you want
setup in frs mode.

randy41

At one time i messed with swash radio settings and had
them set to were the helli would not go any higher than
5 foot of the ground made it easy to learn hovering.LOL

helidreamer-RCU

Randy 41, when you where talking about the -50 -50 +50 Swash settings. They are set by using the radio only right? It has nothing to do with the pitch gauge. Am I following you correctly?

randy41

Yes it is done by the radio. The lower the settings the less
travel you will have. But you can play with the pitch curve
setting in the radio and get simular results. But i think it is easer to use the swash settings in the radio.
Ok if you have a -50 on the swash pitch settings your pitch
range want be as much as -65. For example( -50 swash pitch
setting might give you a -1 at o% collective +5 at 50% collective
+ 8 at 100% collective. -65 swash pitch setting might give you a
(-3 at o% collective +6 at 50% collective +11 at 100% collective.

helidreamer-RCU

OK thanks.

helidreamer-RCU

I have an RD8000, can anybody tell me how to set the Swash Pitch to eg: -50, -50, +50? I am really confused because when I go to the category "etc". and then go to SWH, it only gives me four choices of CP3F, cp3b, cp4f, cp4b which has nothing to do with numbers. And when I go to the CAtegory "P-F" there are five different Pitch curve settings. CV-PH, CV-P3, CV-P2, CV-P1, CV-PL. I don't get what they mean :spinnyeye

WillMac795

David J - Why don't you reccomend training mode with EMS?

I used it with no trouble before switching to normal mode.

davidj

First off let me say I have never flown a C30 configured in the trainer mode. That said if you are "going it alone" with out the help from someone with experience I would recommend using the training mode. I feel if you find someone with experience (more than 3 years with many heli's) they can get the heli set up to mimick the trainer mode with out the need of changing the mechanical set up. This is the great thing about the C30. It is so smooth and if you make it so, so docile and mild manared the trainer mode is not necessary. The C30 hovers better than most heli's even when in full 3D setup.

helidreamer-RCU

Uh, Can anyone answer my last question?

randy41

I was talking about the futaba 9chp radio.
You felled to mention what radio you had and i felled to ask.LOL
Your radio don't have the swash afr setting. I don't know much
about the airtronics RD8000.(sorry) About all i can tell you is
that the ATV is the same thing as EPA in your radio.
Go to the radio support thread with in this site or just clik below and maybe they can help you.



radio support

TMooreATX

Leave the EPA's at 100% and use CP3F.

Terry

randy41

After going to airtronics site and reading. I found that the
CV-PH, CV-P3, CV-P2, CV-P1, CV-PL that is in question is
the 5 point pitch curves. CV-PL setting is when your left stick
is at the bottom position. CV-P1 setting is when your left stick is in between center and bottom position which is 1/4 position.
CV-P2 setting is when your left stickis at the center position.
CV-P3 setting is when your left stickis in between full and center position(3/4).CV-PH setting is when your left stick is at the full up position. These set the pitch degrees for your total collective from bottom left stick to full up left stick.
Example: cv-pL 0%, cvp-p1 25%, cv-p2 50%,cv-p3 75%,
cv-ph 100%. These setting are used to set your main roto
pitch degrees with a pitch guage. cv-ph 100% . might equal
12 deg positive by a pitch guage. cv-ph 80% might equal
9 deg positive by a pitch guage and so forth.

After reading up on the RD8000. I KNOW ONE THING.I AM
GLAD I GOT A FUTABA.

helidreamer-RCU

Thanks's guys I really appreciate your responses. And thanks randy41 for that explaination, I finally get what CV-XX means (xx is a variable)

randy41

Helidreamer: your welcome.

randy41

The definitions for these are as stated.

CV-PL Means curve pitch low.
CV-P1 Means curve pitch 1
CV-P2 Means curve pitch 2
CV-P3 Means curve pitch 3
CV-PH Means curve pitch high.

helidreamer-RCU

thanks again :rainfro: :thumbup:

Falconeer

hi people,

I just started a thread about this... Anyways, I have a JR Radio X2610 (same as X6210), how would I set this there now? and did anyone who used training mode feel any differnce good or worse when hovering??????

helidreamer-RCU

wow its BACK FROM THE DEAD SINCE 2003 when i last posted here, heheeh that's pretty cool and its amazing u found it falconer. unfortunatley, i still have an rd8000, so i can't help you however, someone else may be able to.