steed2-inactive

I have a brand new losi aftershock that i have ran one tank through and a brand new axial 32rr-1 sitting around. which is a stronger engine guys?
thanks for any input-scott

ImpalaPolicePack

probably the 32 but i never had one.
i had a axial 28 spec 1s and it was a piece of crap, worst engine i ever had.
it was a bit more powerful than my m26ss but i wont buy another axial engine and i suggest you do the same.

HerrSavage

My Spec 1S was actually quite good, but that was a long time ago.. Quality seems to come and go with most brands in RC... There are better engines out there, but my guess is the Axial will be the better of those two..

ImpalaPolicePack

you and cummins are the only ones i know that liked there axial engine. but thats ok, im not blaming you lol

i know how to tune and operate nitro engines but i had so many problems with it.
pullstart springs, leaking HSN, leaking front bearing, MSN leak/unscrew itself... never had any of those problems with my g3.0, m26ss and 454.

HerrSavage

I know they have a bad rep, but what can I say? Mine was just good... Now my Hot Bodies .26.. - THAT was horrible...

steed2-inactive

yes the force 26 is the most horrible engine i have ever come across

steed2-inactive

I had the 32-rr1 in my savage x for break in plus about 4 tanks and just wasnt happy with the performance, could't get rid of the bog off idle(unless running the 8.5 mm carb restricter which choked the already limited top end, even more). It just seemed to hit a wall and not pull any more rpm. It had a decent mid-range (nothing to write home about) but thats about it, needless to say i wasn't impressed at all, after looking through their website and seeing the mods they performed on the rr-1 vs. the original 32 i figured " hey it must be pretty good". .......didnt work out that way, my f 4.6 in an xl would beat the 32rr-1 in my x chassis. The x now has an lrp 30 with a dynamite 086 (currently going through break in). I have this basically brand new axial, and its such a cool looking engine, to bad the performance is low, maybe ill mod it (and in the process probably make it less powerful...haha)....hmmmm what to do?....lol

Orcatkt

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Ihad the older Axial 32 in my LST and Iloved it. No dea about the engines reputation. I liked mine fine, and it hauled!!

potillaracing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbyBUuApX80


aftershock axial 32rr-1

cummins driver

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Yes, Ill have to say my Axial has been an awesome engine. I will fully agree that it kind of hits a flat spot when it runs out of RPM, but the low end and mid range is lots of fun in a monster truck and mine has always been pretty easy to tune and troublefree. I have over 8 gallons on it now with no problems from it yet, so I cant complain with that.

I probably wouldnt buy another one, just because you can buy something a little better for $20 more, but I will still say the Axial has been a great engine for me and when it finally dies, ill probably have it repinched and run it some more.

Eric

steed2-inactive

yea i paid 199. plus tax for my axial 32-rr1, and 6 months later paid 199. plus tax for my lrp .30

sixturbosix

Axial .32rr is the best engine I have ever owned.I actually just bought another as a backup I like them so well.It is mounted on a CEN Nemesis which is crazy heavy.The type of tuned pipe you run and how you gear it makes a big difference in its performance.Geared right it runs asfast as any .28 out there.Remember its not the rpms this motor produces its the torque.You can run a taller pinion due to the abundance of torque it has.

ImpalaPolicePack

power and torque was not a problem with mine, it was the reliability and quality.

steed2-inactive

what pipe and header are you running?

SavagedXXL

I don't run Losi's, but I have owned both the Axial 32RR-1 and the M26, and I much prefer the M26 - at least in a Savage. The 32RR was OK, but the Mach was faster on topend, and had better throttle response. The 32RR had a lot of torque, but it didn't produce it right off idle. I sealed (and resealed) it, tried different GP's, tweaked and tweakedcarb tuning, and it always had a flat spot off idle and then it came on. The M26's are rock solid, easy to tune, and run very good for what they are. I think the Aftershock comes with regular M26 with the 7mm carb and lower compession head buttom, but if you put the 8.5mm carb and high compession head button off the silver/teal head Mach 427 on it, they really fly. The Mach probably doesn't have the low to mid range torque that the 32RR does, but it is a harder hitting powerband and has alot more off idle response, if that makes sense, and itturns a lot harder on top.I don't know if a Losi is heavier than the Savage, and I don't know how they are geared. All that makes a difference in how an engine performs, but I can say that in the Savage I was running them in, the M26 is the better engine...

steed2-inactive

Thanks man, yea the 32rr-1 was a huge disapointment wasnt it! I think i will give the m26 a run and see how it performs.

supertib

And to think...2 years ago the Axial fanboys were arguing with me how the larger displacement Axial would beat my mod Picco....their lame excuse was "no replacement for displacement " ....gosh they sure would have been in for a rude awakening if they ever seen the Clocked Picco run...

SavagedXXL

Bigger certainly doesn't mean better in these engines. Of the 3 biggest engines I've had, the LRP ZR30 was the only one that really has a lot of power. and even it got waxed on topend by my LRP Z28R spec 3. The next biggest was theAxial 32rr, and ithad decent power and was reliable, but not onthe level of the LRP's, and Mach's.The 5.9 on my Xl was the biggest at .36 cu in, and it was also biggest POS I've ever ownedbesides the Orion Wasp .28 (Collosal POS!). It was slow, it ran hot, and was truly disappointing. It seems a good 28 is the optimum size for monster trucks. They have a lot of torque and are still able to turn decent RPM on top. Its no secret that on light buggies, that race built .21's and .25's will kill .28's or bigger engines because of the RPM they spin. The advantage of the big engines is supposed to torque, but from the ones I've had, only the ZR30 has more torque than the LRP Z28 or Mach .28/454. The Z28R was betterin every way than the Axial 32RR and completelyembarrassed the 5.9.Now the Clocked Piccois stronger, BYFAR, that any of them. Its not even close. It is just plainnastyon bottom end, to the point of being uncontrollable in 1st, and screams on top end.

cummins driver

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Isnt the wasp .28 the same thing as a Picco .28?

My father in law got a Wasp .26 that wasnt supposed to run in a trade. I took it apart and the backplate was on wrong. I put it back together right and it runs like a new one and man does it scream. I think it might be a touch stronger and snappier on the bottom end than my Axial .28, but has quite a bit more top end. Its a runner for sure.

Eric

steed2-inactive

hey savagedxxl, how much better is the lrp30 than the axial? i just bought a brand new lrp 30 and i hope its a big improvement? i am running a dynamite 086 (with proper header-4shock setup) Cause to be honest the f4.6 was better than the axial 32rr-1. I just hope i didnt spend almost 300 dollars to have an engine that is just a little bit better than the axial 32-rr1? whats your thoughts?

cummins driver

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Im getting somewhere now. Supertib said this back in 07-

supertib

nostalgia.....here is a video of that exact engine i was referring to

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...9414277112039#

SavagedXXL

Mine was the Toki built engine. It is the blue one with 6 bolt cooling head. It isgood looking engine, but a total POS. It makes a cool lookingpaper weight thougfh -lol

cummins driver

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Man that sucker was screaming no doubt Watching that truggy slide sideways in the grass instead of flipping 10 times is making me want one. lol

Is the Orion .26 my father in law has basically the same as a picco .26?

SavagedXXL

The ZR30 is a lotstronger than the 32RR, especially on bottom end. The ZR30 has more bottom end than any other engine I've had besides the Clocked Picco. It won't rev quite as high the Z28R, but will rev higher than the 32RR. Just curious though, why was it $300? That's what the Clocked Picco costs, and its a lot more engine than any of them.