LST vs. Revo
The LST is a great truck, but for a beginner, the Revo is the way to go...
08-14-2005, 10:09 AM
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RE: LST vs. Revo
Everytime I get into a new sport (hobby, whatever) It seems like I go the cheaper route first and then I kick myself later, usually not much later, for not getting the best to start with. After wasting big bucks on paintball markers and gear only to replace it with what I should have purchased in the first place, I finally learned. This is my first nitro car/truck and I'm very happy I went with the LST.
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RE: LST vs. Revo
This is my first nitro truck also, and I'm happy I went with the LST[sm=thumbup.gif]
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Everytime I get into a new sport (hobby, whatever) It seems like I go the cheaper route first and then I kick myself later, usually not much later, for not getting the best to start with. After wasting big bucks on paintball markers and gear only to replace it with what I should have purchased in the first place, I finally learned. This is my first nitro car/truck and I'm very happy I went with the LST.
Everytime I get into a new sport (hobby, whatever) It seems like I go the cheaper route first and then I kick myself later, usually not much later, for not getting the best to start with. After wasting big bucks on paintball markers and gear only to replace it with what I should have purchased in the first place, I finally learned. This is my first nitro car/truck and I'm very happy I went with the LST.
08-14-2005, 09:33 PM
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RE: LST vs. Revo
I bought my LST as a first Monster truck. Was there a learning curve? Sure! I would recommend the LST for the beginner, if you want a BIG Monster truck. I like big. I am not sorry that bought an LST. I have broken a few things, but if you hit walls and cartwheel jumps, you are bound to break something. So be bold, if you like the LST buy it.
At the track this weekend there were four Revo's. Out of the four that started the qualifiers, only two were still running at the ends of the main. A Revo did take the honors, but that was driven by a very very good driver. I was the only LST there, too bad I can't drive a bit better, I am sure the LST could and would give the Revo a good run.
At the track this weekend there were four Revo's. Out of the four that started the qualifiers, only two were still running at the ends of the main. A Revo did take the honors, but that was driven by a very very good driver. I was the only LST there, too bad I can't drive a bit better, I am sure the LST could and would give the Revo a good run.
08-15-2005, 09:07 AM
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RE: LST vs. Revo
There are growing pains with the LST it was my frist MT and I would do it again. The revo & savage are tough but the LST is THE truck. Once you upgrade the suppention. Nothing else compares.
08-15-2005, 09:56 AM
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RE: LST vs. Revo
Hey Benifur what exact upgrade do I need for the suspension and how much will it cost? I'm hoping to get a car by late this year or next year. Thanks!
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RE: LST vs. Revo
He must mean RPM A-arms not the actual shocks, the shocks are the best in the business. 
In this video I am running stock springs with 35wt fluid and RPM A-arms.
[link=http://www.dennisnadams.com/tmaxx/LST/Can't%20Stop_3.wmv]Video: Here's what I am seeing on the track...[/link]
In this video I am running stock springs with 35wt fluid and RPM A-arms.
[link=http://www.dennisnadams.com/tmaxx/LST/Can't%20Stop_3.wmv]Video: Here's what I am seeing on the track...[/link]
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RE: LST vs. Revo
the revo is a great truck for a beginner or experienced racer. the difference is if you have a revo and in two months your buddy gets and lst. you'll be dissapointed. now if you have a lst and your buddy gets a revo you thank yourself for stepping up to the lst right off the bat. the radio alone is worth the price difference. if you dont need or want a radio that good. buy the lst sell the radio, and purchase a cheaper model radio. you'll cut well over $100 off the price of the truck.
08-15-2005, 08:09 PM
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RE: LST vs. Revo
ORIGINAL: ilikenitrorccars
Which is a better car for a beginner LST or Revo?
Which is a better car for a beginner LST or Revo?
Both have their good and bad points. Althought the Revo has the EZ start, which is supposed to make starting easier for the beginner, it can also be a headache. It draws power from the glow ignitor, which can make starting difficult, and it also doesn't teach you much. The TRX 2.5 engine is a powerful small block engine, but it's one of the least friendliest RTR engines you can own. It's a real PITA to tune, especially for a beginner. It's also marketed very decievingly to the beginner, since the TRX 2.5 is actually a .15 sized engine (2.5 c.c. = .15 c.i.). The Opti-drive is just a safety from shifting into reverse while the truck is moving forward..........It's rather pointless.
Although the Revo is a pretty tough truck from the box, and rather fast, eventually you'll feel the need for more power and reliability. You'll want a larger engine, which is pretty easy to do since many are designed specifically for Tmaxx/Revo. Here's where your problems will really start. The Revo has a mostly plastic drivetrain which is purposely designed to only handle the stress of the TRX 2.5 engine. Dropping in a larger engine will systematically destroy your drivetrain. You'll constantly be chasing the weakest link of the drivetrain, untill you've spent hundreds of dollars to completely rebuild it (plus add in the price of the larger engine (and the price of the truck) and you've already spent a small fortune). After this point, you're nitro experience will start calling to you for more control in the form of better radio gear. Again, you'll be spending a couple hundred more just to have a radio that's on par with what the LST comes with stock. By now, you're into the Revo for over a grand, just to have a big block truck with a metal drivetrain and good radio gear.
The LST however will set you back $600 from the start. It has some weak points that NEED to be addressed right out of the box. You'll have to spend an additional $150 or so for stronger a-arms, aluminum diff cases, secondary gear cover, and a possible clutch. At this point, you'll have spent around $700-$800 for a truck that is still as good or better than your $1000+ tricked out Revo, and it will have taken far less work to make it that way.
08-15-2005, 08:39 PM
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RE: LST vs. Revo
I was going to get an LST, but i thought it was rather ridiculos how you pay soo much for the truck, then have to buy $50 worth of parts that should have been included, like the alloy diff cases, secondary gear cover, better a-arms. 2 of my friends have LST's and they really enjoy them. I decided to go the buggy route though. If you can afford it, then go for the LST.
08-15-2005, 09:03 PM
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The LST is one of (if not THE) most expensive nitro MTs you can buy. That's why it's marketed more for experienced nitro enthusiasts. It has features that are more easily appreciated by experienced R/C'ers that justify the price tag.
I'll list some examples that may often be overlooked:
1. The radio gear (I know, everyone says "the radio gear" ). Having such precision control and adjustability aren't necessity, but it's highly appreciated once accustomed to it.
2. Aluminum giant bore 4 shock system. 4 shocks are less maintainance than 8 (which is customary in most MTs), and they are ultra smooth and plush and easy to access....Plus they're aluminum.
3. Full metal drivetrain (besides spur gears). It will readily handle any sized engine you can put in it.
4. Spin starter. It saves the weight of having on-board starting equipment, and it saves the work of a pull start.
5. Easily accesable sealed diffs. You can pull them out in a matter of minutes and fill them with you favorite oil.
6. Ease of maintainance. Accessing any part of the truck is rather simple and quick when compared to other MTs.
7. Hex head bolts. No more stripped Phillip's head screws (but you'll need some decent drivers).
8. It's big. Plain and simple. It'll tackle terrain that would leave 1/10 scale trucks and 1/8 scale buggys stranded.
9. Nimble handling. Although it's bigger than most, it's handles like it's much smaller than it is.
10. Slipper clutch design. It's got the best designed slipper clutch.... Ever. It works great and is easily tuned.
Alot of these features may not appeal to beginers, just because they aren't familiar with them. But if you have some experience, it's a great overall package, and a great value.
I'll list some examples that may often be overlooked:
1. The radio gear (I know, everyone says "the radio gear" ). Having such precision control and adjustability aren't necessity, but it's highly appreciated once accustomed to it.
2. Aluminum giant bore 4 shock system. 4 shocks are less maintainance than 8 (which is customary in most MTs), and they are ultra smooth and plush and easy to access....Plus they're aluminum.
3. Full metal drivetrain (besides spur gears). It will readily handle any sized engine you can put in it.
4. Spin starter. It saves the weight of having on-board starting equipment, and it saves the work of a pull start.
5. Easily accesable sealed diffs. You can pull them out in a matter of minutes and fill them with you favorite oil.
6. Ease of maintainance. Accessing any part of the truck is rather simple and quick when compared to other MTs.
7. Hex head bolts. No more stripped Phillip's head screws (but you'll need some decent drivers).
8. It's big. Plain and simple. It'll tackle terrain that would leave 1/10 scale trucks and 1/8 scale buggys stranded.
9. Nimble handling. Although it's bigger than most, it's handles like it's much smaller than it is.
10. Slipper clutch design. It's got the best designed slipper clutch.... Ever. It works great and is easily tuned.
Alot of these features may not appeal to beginers, just because they aren't familiar with them. But if you have some experience, it's a great overall package, and a great value.
08-15-2005, 09:12 PM
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RE: LST vs. Revo
people say the lst needs imediate upgrades. i'm more of the "if it aint broke dont fix it kinda guy" i've had my truck for 4 months and have raced it about 5 whole days of racing. over 20 races not to mention practices. i have never broke a part at the track. i always finish in the top 4, have won a couple of times. i have broked two a arms at home. 1- hitting a tree at about 30 mph. and 2- hitting a pile of bricks at about 30 mph. still run factory springs and shock oil. i havn't changed a thing. still factory tires, plastic diff covers, stock dog bones and all. i bash the @#$% out of mine and it takes it all with ease. the only upgrade i have is the aluminum gear cover for 15 bucks. the lst is a tough truck i garentee if people are breaking a arms as easy as they say they are, they are doing something wrong. snaging the wall on the straight, or hitting a tube coming down for a jump. mine has fliped, rolled, landed every way you can imagine and still begs for more. just my thought. upgrades are nice but not a must. [&:]
08-15-2005, 10:26 PM
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RE: LST vs. Revo
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The Revo is marketed more for a beginner because of the EZ start and Opti-drive transmission, while the LST is marketed more for experienced nitro enthusiasts.
Both have their good and bad points. Althought the Revo has the EZ start, which is supposed to make starting easier for the beginner, it can also be a headache. It draws power from the glow ignitor, which can make starting difficult, and it also doesn't teach you much. The TRX 2.5 engine is a powerful small block engine, but it's one of the least friendliest RTR engines you can own. It's a real PITA to tune, especially for a beginner. It's also marketed very decievingly to the beginner, since the TRX 2.5 is actually a .15 sized engine (2.5 c.c. = .15 c.i.). The Opti-drive is just a safety from shifting into reverse while the truck is moving forward..........It's rather pointless.
Although the Revo is a pretty tough truck from the box, and rather fast, eventually you'll feel the need for more power and reliability. You'll want a larger engine, which is pretty easy to do since many are designed specifically for Tmaxx/Revo. Here's where your problems will really start. The Revo has a mostly plastic drivetrain which is purposely designed to only handle the stress of the TRX 2.5 engine. Dropping in a larger engine will systematically destroy your drivetrain. You'll constantly be chasing the weakest link of the drivetrain, untill you've spent hundreds of dollars to completely rebuild it (plus add in the price of the larger engine (and the price of the truck) and you've already spent a small fortune). After this point, you're nitro experience will start calling to you for more control in the form of better radio gear. Again, you'll be spending a couple hundred more just to have a radio that's on par with what the LST comes with stock. By now, you're into the Revo for over a grand, just to have a big block truck with a metal drivetrain and good radio gear.
The LST however will set you back $600 from the start. It has some weak points that NEED to be addressed right out of the box. You'll have to spend an additional $150 or so for stronger a-arms, aluminum diff cases, secondary gear cover, and a possible clutch. At this point, you'll have spent around $700-$800 for a truck that is still as good or better than your $1000+ tricked out Revo, and it will have taken far less work to make it that way.
ORIGINAL: ilikenitrorccars
Which is a better car for a beginner LST or Revo?
Which is a better car for a beginner LST or Revo?
Both have their good and bad points. Althought the Revo has the EZ start, which is supposed to make starting easier for the beginner, it can also be a headache. It draws power from the glow ignitor, which can make starting difficult, and it also doesn't teach you much. The TRX 2.5 engine is a powerful small block engine, but it's one of the least friendliest RTR engines you can own. It's a real PITA to tune, especially for a beginner. It's also marketed very decievingly to the beginner, since the TRX 2.5 is actually a .15 sized engine (2.5 c.c. = .15 c.i.). The Opti-drive is just a safety from shifting into reverse while the truck is moving forward..........It's rather pointless.
Although the Revo is a pretty tough truck from the box, and rather fast, eventually you'll feel the need for more power and reliability. You'll want a larger engine, which is pretty easy to do since many are designed specifically for Tmaxx/Revo. Here's where your problems will really start. The Revo has a mostly plastic drivetrain which is purposely designed to only handle the stress of the TRX 2.5 engine. Dropping in a larger engine will systematically destroy your drivetrain. You'll constantly be chasing the weakest link of the drivetrain, untill you've spent hundreds of dollars to completely rebuild it (plus add in the price of the larger engine (and the price of the truck) and you've already spent a small fortune). After this point, you're nitro experience will start calling to you for more control in the form of better radio gear. Again, you'll be spending a couple hundred more just to have a radio that's on par with what the LST comes with stock. By now, you're into the Revo for over a grand, just to have a big block truck with a metal drivetrain and good radio gear.
The LST however will set you back $600 from the start. It has some weak points that NEED to be addressed right out of the box. You'll have to spend an additional $150 or so for stronger a-arms, aluminum diff cases, secondary gear cover, and a possible clutch. At this point, you'll have spent around $700-$800 for a truck that is still as good or better than your $1000+ tricked out Revo, and it will have taken far less work to make it that way.
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The LST is one of (if not THE) most expensive nitro MTs you can buy. That's why it's marketed more for experienced nitro enthusiasts. It has features that are more easily appreciated by experienced R/C'ers that justify the price tag.
I'll list some examples that may often be overlooked:
1. The radio gear (I know, everyone says "the radio gear" ). Having such precision control and adjustability aren't necessity, but it's highly appreciated once accustomed to it.
2. Aluminum giant bore 4 shock system. 4 shocks are less maintainance than 8 (which is customary in most MTs), and they are ultra smooth and plush and easy to access....Plus they're aluminum.
3. Full metal drivetrain (besides spur gears). It will readily handle any sized engine you can put in it.
4. Spin starter. It saves the weight of having on-board starting equipment, and it saves the work of a pull start.
5. Easily accesable sealed diffs. You can pull them out in a matter of minutes and fill them with you favorite oil.
6. Ease of maintainance. Accessing any part of the truck is rather simple and quick when compared to other MTs.
7. Hex head bolts. No more stripped Phillip's head screws (but you'll need some decent drivers).
8. It's big. Plain and simple. It'll tackle terrain that would leave 1/10 scale trucks and 1/8 scale buggys stranded.
9. Nimble handling. Although it's bigger than most, it's handles like it's much smaller than it is.
10. Slipper clutch design. It's got the best designed slipper clutch.... Ever. It works great and is easily tuned.
Alot of these features may not appeal to beginers, just because they aren't familiar with them. But if you have some experience, it's a great overall package, and a great value.
The LST is one of (if not THE) most expensive nitro MTs you can buy. That's why it's marketed more for experienced nitro enthusiasts. It has features that are more easily appreciated by experienced R/C'ers that justify the price tag.
I'll list some examples that may often be overlooked:
1. The radio gear (I know, everyone says "the radio gear" ). Having such precision control and adjustability aren't necessity, but it's highly appreciated once accustomed to it.
2. Aluminum giant bore 4 shock system. 4 shocks are less maintainance than 8 (which is customary in most MTs), and they are ultra smooth and plush and easy to access....Plus they're aluminum.
3. Full metal drivetrain (besides spur gears). It will readily handle any sized engine you can put in it.
4. Spin starter. It saves the weight of having on-board starting equipment, and it saves the work of a pull start.
5. Easily accesable sealed diffs. You can pull them out in a matter of minutes and fill them with you favorite oil.
6. Ease of maintainance. Accessing any part of the truck is rather simple and quick when compared to other MTs.
7. Hex head bolts. No more stripped Phillip's head screws (but you'll need some decent drivers).
8. It's big. Plain and simple. It'll tackle terrain that would leave 1/10 scale trucks and 1/8 scale buggys stranded.
9. Nimble handling. Although it's bigger than most, it's handles like it's much smaller than it is.
10. Slipper clutch design. It's got the best designed slipper clutch.... Ever. It works great and is easily tuned.
Alot of these features may not appeal to beginers, just because they aren't familiar with them. But if you have some experience, it's a great overall package, and a great value.
08-15-2005, 10:51 PM
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RE: LST vs. Revo
i also think that there are other great trucks out there for a fraction of the price
Despite the awful 2.5r (I heard an audio interview of a pro at RCX in Anaheim a few months ago - I think it was Bobby Moore - who said most people won't get more than 3 or 4 gallons before it dies), I would also have to reccomend the Revo for the beginner. I used to have one, but traded it for my buggy. Glad I did too!
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RE: LST vs. Revo
For about $800.00 USD ( after upgrades) the LST is the Best one out there. A $800.00 Revo or Savage, or moster GT. Still are not as fast or nimble as the LST. and the LST has the HI/LO tranny. Trow a grand at it and well what can I say CF chassi would be nice Beside don't you think It just looks awsome. You can make it a racer cheep.