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Airtronics at 6.0 Volt? Ok or not? - 9/1/2003 11:03:05 PM   
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HOPE HE WILL SEE WHY OTHERS 'ATTACKING'(???) HIM.

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Airtronics at 6.0 Volt? Ok or not? - 9/2/2003 9:16:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Thud_Driver
I don't have a clue what this means as your Airtronics receiver will work fine on a 6 volt battery all the way down to around 4 volts or less. . [/QUOTE]
WOW!! 4 Volts or less?
Thats not what I call safe flying.
I use 12 on my TX and I have a 6 volt 1,400 mil RX battery.
The setup I have will last me a full day of flying and no worries

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Airtronics at 6.0 Volt? Ok or not? - 9/2/2003 9:30:46 AM   
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Gosh dang. I must agree. I'm never going to post any more help for anybody. All it turns into is one great big fight and I end up getting flustered and making enemies rather than making friends.

This hobby is all about making friends and having fun. Right? So I'm not going to let my help spoil it for me.

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Some here educate while others rather flame you.
It's happened to me and I had post removed because I mentioned a mod on a wing and the moderator thought it was
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Hang in there.

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Airtronics at 6.0 Volt? Ok or not? - 9/2/2003 9:33:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]WOW!! 4 Volts or less? [/QUOTE]

I believe Thud was talking about the RX would still be functional at that level...which is true.. the Rx will operate just fine at that level without any reduced range. however in flight loads on a pack that checked out that low would not be safe because a 4 cell or 5 cell pack that had discharged to that level would fall off to nothing with very little load. Therefore making nothing work

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Airtronics at 6.0 Volt? Ok or not? - 9/2/2003 9:36:22 AM   
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And exactly what was he doing....giving false info. is not education...is everybody suppose to sit around and not correct blatantly incorrect information??

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Airtronics at 6.0 Volt? Ok or not? - 9/3/2003 1:59:53 AM   
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And exactly what was he doing....giving false info. is not education...is everybody suppose to sit around and not correct blatantly incorrect information?? [/QUOTE]
No one has to slam anyone just because they thought what was right was indeed wrong.
You can correct someone in a nice mild manner or a with a forked,flaming mouth.
Another thing that I feel is wrong is when a moderator end a thread because *HE* feels it's been going on long enough







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Airtronics at 6.0 Volt? Ok or not? - 9/3/2003 2:31:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Whirley Bird
WOW!! 4 Volts or less?

Thats not what I call safe flying.
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You will note that I went on to say in post #7: "So other than current (amps) requirements for the servo's, the receiver shouldn't fail." And in post #4 I did say "Not good". And no, it's not safe flying but if a cell fails, you should be able to fly and land, right?? Note where we said the Airtronics Rx voltage alarms are set - at 4.1 volts. Fact is, your batteries have to be way down before your Airtronics receiver is going to quit or lose range. The power the servo's need to make use of the signals from your perfectly good receiver is a whole different story.

The point was, your equipment shouldn't fail just because "I've lost airplanes because the battery got a little below 4.8 volts" whatever that is. You guys do go down to around .9v to 1.05v per cell to check your battery capacity don't you (and likely complain if you don't get performance down there). So is all that capacity below 1.2v/cell your operating margin or do you occasionally fly there, or don't know??

We should all strive to understand our equipment and where the real cliffs are.

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Airtronics at 6.0 Volt? Ok or not? - 9/3/2003 2:49:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Thud_Driver
The point was, your equipment shouldn't fail just because "I've lost airplanes because the battery got a little below 4.8 volts" whatever that is. You guys do go down to around .9v to 1.05v per cell to check your battery capacity don't you (and likely complain if you don't get performance down there). So is all that capacity below 1.2v/cell your operating margin or do you occasionally fly there, or don't know??

We should all strive to understand our equipment and where the real cliffs are. [/QUOTE]
Thats why I have a 6 volt 1,200 mil battery in my RX and I use an external Jell cell 12V @ 2 amp battery for the TX.
I have a small pot on it and can lower the voltage to 10 volts although I have at times run as much as 15 volts into an older transmitter to see what would cook out.
Nothing.

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Airtronics at 6.0 Volt? Ok or not? - 9/3/2003 4:39:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Whirley Bird
.... I use an external Jell cell 12V @ 2 amp battery for the TX.[/QUOTE]

Did that in the early '60's with my home built Tx. Had a six pack of those big 1.5v cylindrical storage batteries (like they used to use for glow plug batteries) tied together. Set it down next to me on the ground with a cord plugged into the giant Tx box. Was flying Galloping Ghost with two spring loaded levers for rudder/elevator and buttons for motor. T'was back in the days when it wasn't uncommon for your button cell nicads to blow themselves apart inside your aiplane during charging.

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Airtronics at 6.0 Volt? Ok or not? - 9/3/2003 5:07:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]No one has to slam anyone just because they thought what was right was indeed wrong. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]You can correct someone in a nice mild manner or a with a forked,flaming mouth. [/QUOTE]

I agree...maybe you need to re-read the thread and take notice of who used the "forked,flamingmouth" as you put it....

...and just curious, why are you using the 12V gell cell on your Tx??

My 1800mah pack lasts plenty long. In my Stylus.

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Airtronics at 6.0 Volt? Ok or not? - 9/3/2003 5:23:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by blkbird68
...and just curious, why are you using the 12V gell cell on your Tx??

My 1800mah pack lasts plenty long. In my Stylus. [/QUOTE]
Remember the older car phones that some called bag phones?
I ran into 12 brand new ones that were still in the box.
Their small and compact but put out a full 3 watts of power and I use them in my SAR pack.
They sure beat the *almost* no power of the modern *almost* can't see cell phone.
When a local RS store closed I picked up 5 of the 12V@2amp batteries at $6.00 each so I use 2 for my transmitter.

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Airtronics at 6.0 Volt? Ok or not? - 9/3/2003 5:35:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Thud_Driver
Did that in the early '60's with my home built Tx. Had a six pack of those big 1.5v cylindrical storage batteries (like they used to use for glow plug batteries) . [/QUOTE]
The good old days huh?LOL
I use a sealed 12V@2amp battery and it slides into a padded pouch made just for it and then I run my belt through it.
I just plug it into the transmitter.
Between that and the 6V 1,200 AMP battery for the RX I can fly all day and not have to worry about a recharge

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Airtronics at 6.0 Volt? Ok or not? - 9/3/2003 5:43:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]6V 1,200 AMP [/QUOTE]

1,200 AMP!!! wow....your servos must be the size of small cars!!

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Airtronics at 6.0 Volt? Ok or not? - 9/3/2003 5:46:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by blkbird68
1,200 AMP!!! wow....your servos must be the size of small cars!! [/QUOTE]
Is there anything wrong with running a bigger battery?
As long as the voltage is in limits you won't have any problems

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Airtronics at 6.0 Volt? Ok or not? - 9/3/2003 6:31:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Is there anything wrong with running a bigger battery? [/QUOTE]

Is it safe to assume that you meant that it is a 1200mah battery not a 1200amp battery??

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Airtronics at 6.0 Volt? Ok or not? - 9/3/2003 6:34:25 AM