I have been working extremely hard for over 7 months on the MT Engines account providing feedback to the factory, making recommendations, setting specifications, and trying to help bring quality engines to market in the US. To date, not a single MT Engine has been able to be sold without it being completely disassembled, defective out of spec parts replaced or repaired, and assembly errors corrected. All of the issues have been repeatedly brought to the attention of the factory, some positive changes have been successfully implemented but their execution on the assembly line has been dismal.

 At VVRC our customers are important to us and they come first, our reputation as a leader in customer service and satisfaction offering high quality products to help make our customers modeling experience more enjoyable will not be compromised. I'm tired of being ignored and seeing no real effort to implement any kind of meaningful quality control in either component selection or assembly line procedure. As the primary principal at VVRC in charge of technical customer service and gasoline power systems, it is with deep regret and sadness that I have decided to cease all gasoline engine business with MT Engines at this time, to continue as things are today would not be in the best interests of our customers. Until such time a better cooperation is able to be established, VVRC will no longer promote, advertise, or purchase any MT Engine model. All VVRC customers who purchased MT Engines from VVRC will be fully supported to the best of our ability but regrettably we will no longer be able to offer support of any kind to owners of MT Engines that purchased their engines from MT Engines USA.

These engines are of a very good basic design and it is my fervent hope and desire that sometime in the future MT Engines is able to increase the level of delivered quality, at that time we would be happy to again entertain the prospect of selling MT Engines.

Two stroke engines are so simple, that the temptation is great to treat them as such. When it comes to detail of design however, simplicity goes out the door, and a lot of knowhow is called for. Come production time, add some decent Quality control to that, and a line of suppliers meeting the required standards.
"Have CNC-will make engines" just does not cut it for mass production (more than 10-off runs)

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ORIGINAL: w8ye

Shows a Lack of skilled labor over there?  Also a lack of responsibility. Apparently they never worked for anyone before? Never had to answer for their short comings? Send it on down the line. Its going far away never to come back.

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ORIGINAL: BadAzzMaxx

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ORIGINAL: w8ye

Shows a Lack of skilled labor over there?  Also a lack of responsibility. Apparently they never worked for anyone before? Never had to answer for their short comings? Send it on down the line. Its going far away never to come back.

True
But there is someone above the workers telling them to just put something on the threads and still ship the engines or what ever other problems they might have.

Milton

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ORIGINAL: BadAzzMaxx

You know some of the funny part about trying to deal with China engine manufactures is I have talked to a lot of them about just selling me the parts and I would do the assembly here.

I have the time and enjoy doing it and also know they are assembled right.

With the right tools and knowledge you can assemble a engine with taking your time in about 30 minutes, It takes me longer to mount and test run a engine than it does to assemble one, Mount it, install muffler, Install the prop, Test run and set the needles seems to take me a while to do and make sure all is right.

Well for some reason, None of them want to do it or either they will price the parts to where they are more than the cost of a assembled engine. ???

The things you have to look for seem to be common in all of them, Striped threads in cases or hall sensor mounting, Threads not cut beep enough to let bolts tighten all the way down, Pistons installed backwards, Prop hub bolts striped out, timing not set right, Carbs that will not draw fuel, Gaskets not installed and a few more I can not think about right now.
Just seems like a lot of them think as long as they are put together, Ship them.

The funny thing also is they know the threads are striped when they assemble the engine because they will use something that looks like CA glue, Like they put it in the striped thread s and just push the bolt in, First time you go to test or tighten it the bolts comes out will all the I guess CA glue still mounted to it.

I have found one company that will sell me parts that are a spin off of DLE parts, I call the engine a DLE-C for DLE clone Lol.

So far have had pretty good luck with it but just have not advertised it much until I make they are going to work out.

When I get the parts there are some that I do not use because of light casting flows and other minor detail that makes them not look up to par, I take those parts and build engines for local guys I know that just want a good running cheap engine that I know will not blast me for every little detail about them.

Milton

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ORIGINAL: denney47

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ORIGINAL: BadAzzMaxx

You know some of the funny part about trying to deal with China engine manufactures is I have talked to a lot of them about just selling me the parts and I would do the assembly here.

I have the time and enjoy doing it and also know they are assembled right.

With the right tools and knowledge you can assemble a engine with taking your time in about 30 minutes, It takes me longer to mount and test run a engine than it does to assemble one, Mount it, install muffler, Install the prop, Test run and set the needles seems to take me a while to do and make sure all is right.

Well for some reason, None of them want to do it or either they will price the parts to where they are more than the cost of a assembled engine. ???

The things you have to look for seem to be common in all of them, Striped threads in cases or hall sensor mounting, Threads not cut beep enough to let bolts tighten all the way down, Pistons installed backwards, Prop hub bolts striped out, timing not set right, Carbs that will not draw fuel, Gaskets not installed and a few more I can not think about right now.
Just seems like a lot of them think as long as they are put together, Ship them.

The funny thing also is they know the threads are striped when they assemble the engine because they will use something that looks like CA glue, Like they put it in the striped thread s and just push the bolt in, First time you go to test or tighten it the bolts comes out will all the I guess CA glue still mounted to it.

I have found one company that will sell me parts that are a spin off of DLE parts, I call the engine a DLE-C for DLE clone Lol.

So far have had pretty good luck with it but just have not advertised it much until I make they are going to work out.

When I get the parts there are some that I do not use because of light casting flows and other minor detail that makes them not look up to par, I take those parts and build engines for local guys I know that just want a good running cheap engine that I know will not blast me for every little detail about them.

Milton

Hello Milton,

We tried to get Tomy to just sell us the parts for the MT-70 and he refused. It takes Jody about one hour to disassemble an engine, replace or repair what is needed and reassemble the engine. Wouldn’t you think Tomy would do this since Jody put in many hours trying to help make this a good engine?

 

 

Tom
Valley View RC

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ORIGINAL: tomyrcmodels

Hello Jody,

It’s very regret and sadness to know VVRC are decided to not marketing MT engines. anyhow I’m grateful about you did for help us about everything .

Lot’s of good idea and opinion that you gave us to make engines have more power and met to USA market requirement .like use big bore carb, 4 bolts new hub, fiberglass reed for MT35. and DA 50 bolts pattern for MT70s…….., we follow those suggestion and did improvement for the engines like that, and it’s works.

Now things is changed,. For customer interest, we are going to make some decision and action for service end user of MT engines.
1. MTCN are going to supply what ever parts that VVRC need to do the service to the end user.
2. MTCN are going to give direct support and service for end users and dealers.
3. Every engines are going to do factory pre-run and make sure quality are good for the end user. Than ship out( last shipment of MT35 and MT70s to USA market are did factory pre-run and checked )
4. we are going to establish new marketing center and service facility to achieve good service to our user.

At the end. Many thanks for your support.

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ORIGINAL: tomyrcmodels

Hello Jody,

It’s very regret and sadness to know VVRC are decided to not marketing MT engines. anyhow I’m grateful about you did for help us about everything .

Lot’s of good idea and opinion that you gave us to make engines have more power and met to USA market requirement .like use big bore carb, 4 bolts new hub, fiberglass reed for MT35. and DA 50 bolts pattern for MT70s…….., we follow those suggestion and did improvement for the engines like that, and it’s works.

Now things is changed,. For customer interest, we are going to make some decision and action for service end user of MT engines.
1. MTCN are going to supply what ever parts that VVRC need to do the service to the end user.
2. MTCN are going to give direct support and service for end users and dealers.
3. Every engines are going to do factory pre-run and make sure quality are good for the end user. Than ship out( last shipment of MT35 and MT70s to USA market are did factory pre-run and checked )
4. we are going to establish new marketing center and service facility to achieve good service to our user.

At the end. Many thanks for your support.