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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 3/30/2012 4:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ya I hope i didnt mess up the fuse, I thought i had read in here were they are adding bass wood leading edges along with bass wood trailing edges for stringth? I have the trailing edge stock on place and just glued in the leading edge stock, its not really that much weight and I figured it would add to the strength. Do you by chance have a wireing layout on how you wired your set up? Are you removing the signal wire from the esc and sending only it directly to the rx? I ran a rock crawler kind alike this before.




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Thanks for the bec info mopar, i have one im not using so now it looks like it just found a home.. I also have a spar cap looking for a home..lol. We stil lhave alot of work ahead to do, we just got the wood leading and trailing edges in place so once the flue dries we can shape them then work on adding carbon fiber. we wil keep everyone updated on the build pics to come soon.

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Wood leading edges ???

Forgot one little detail about BEC use .....
I usually power my BEC with a 3s460 battery, seperate from the main battery.



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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 3/31/2012 3:25 AM   
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You can use an extension and plug your ESC into it if you dont want to "gorilla" your ESC wires.
Follow the diagram below. You can allways run a seperate battery to power your BEC, just dont tie into the ESC connector to main battery, plug the BEC directely into a battery like pictured
http://www.castlecreations.com/products/ccbec_diagrams/ccbec_wiring.html


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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 3/31/2012 4:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks mopar, that looks liek an easy way to hook things up, for the added safety its a great idea, I'll have to carve out a place for the flight pack battery after i get everything together that way I can see were the best place to put it for a correct cg. I'll have the rx and servos next week, so i have time to get the air frame glassed and start on sanding. I just cant deside on either the 16/40/1.5 sec or the 16/40/2....i havent got the batteries yet to i guess its a coin toss as to witch motor to get..lol

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You can use an extension and plug your ESC into it if you dont want to "gorilla" your ESC wires.
Follow the diagram below. You can allways run a seperate battery to power your BEC, just dont tie into the ESC connector to main battery, plug the BEC directely into a battery like pictured
http://www.castlecreations.com/products/ccbec_diagrams/ccbec_wiring.html




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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 3/31/2012 4:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		What prop adaptor is everyone using when they run the mega motor? Will the stock prop adaptor work just redrill it for a 5mm shaft?

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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 3/31/2012 1:51 PM   
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I use the Hyperion or E-Flite 5mm adapters myself ..................... I strongly suggest you do NOT try to drill out any adapter, the $10 for a good prop adapter is worth it.

IMHO, the 40-2ce is KING !!!!!!

Also......................... just an opinion, you dont really need to glass the entire fuse, just glass the bottom 1/2 and "popcorn" it, then paint the top half with your epoxy and "popcorn" that as well. You will save alot of weight and time without loosing any needed strength. If you plan on going all out with a huge 36mm motor, then glass everything and "popcorn" it as well.

Lastly, Running the ICE ESC and a BEC requires you to do "some re-wiring" of the ESC connectors ................... if you run any of the ICE HV ESCs, then you dont have to re-wire anything, as they do not have an internal BEC

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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/1/2012 1:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds good I dont mind rewiring the esc, Im not sure what size can to gtet actually? a 28mm or 36? I'll take all sugjestions..lol wer elooking for a great speed run with this and thats all it will be built for as my son has a stock 27q for playing with.

What is popcorning?



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I use the Hyperion or E-Flite 5mm adapters myself ..................... I strongly suggest you do NOT try to drill out any adapter, the $10 for a good prop adapter is worth it.

IMHO, the 40-2ce is KING !!!!!!

Also......................... just an opinion, you dont really need to glass the entire fuse, just glass the bottom 1/2 and "popcorn" it, then paint the top half with your epoxy and "popcorn" that as well. You will save alot of weight and time without loosing any needed strength. If you plan on going all out with a huge 36mm motor, then glass everything and "popcorn" it as well.

Lastly, Running the ICE ESC and a BEC requires you to do "some re-wiring" of the ESC connectors ................... if you run any of the ICE HV ESCs, then you dont have to re-wire anything, as they do not have an internal BEC



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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/1/2012 11:54 AM   
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Sounds good I dont mind rewiring the esc, Im not sure what size can to gtet actually? a 28mm or 36? I'll take all sugjestions..lol wer elooking for a great speed run with this and thats all it will be built for as my son has a stock 27q for playing with.

What is popcorning?



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I suggest you get used to that 16-40-2ec before considering anything heavier/faster.

Popcorn:
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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/1/2012 3:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		That 16/40/2EC will keep a grin on your face for quite a while(and others faces)

Im speaking from my experiance,the thing is unbelievable!!!!6cells 7'' props and 5s for your 8''

Please make sure you take all the steps that have been mentioned,this unit is going to give you a tad over 2 HP!!!!!


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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/2/2012 12:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great thing about not glassing the entire thing, is that its easier to hand launch.

You can get used to hand launching a fully glassed Stryker, if you have a great arm, but its so much easier to just pick it up and throw it without dragging out the bungee.

A glassed bottom offers just about every advantage wanted, and popcorning the top with the epoxy soaking into the foam, without adding glass, keeps the weight down, and adds TONS of extra for durability.

Durability and finish is why I suggest popcorning with epoxy regardless of glass or not,


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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/2/2012 2:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks mopar for the info on popcorning, we will stay with the 16/40/2 for now....
Rim we do have a bungy to launch with, we use it to launch my sons edf's but wer enot sure if were ganna hand launch or bungy the 27c yet?


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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/3/2012 3:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, i popcorned a scrap piece of foam just to see what it would do, but i have a ?, what porpose does popcorning the foam do? does it add strength? make it lighter some how? Sorry guys i just dont understand this part.

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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/4/2012 7:23 AM   
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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/4/2012 2:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		not on the scrap piece I didnt paint with epoxy, the question I have though is what is the porpose of popcorning an air frame?


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Did you "paint" the foam with epoxy before adding the heat ?



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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/4/2012 4:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sometimes you have to see it to believe it, and this is one of those cases.

Take a scrap piece again, paint on a layer of your favorite epoxy (that isnt a 1:1 mix) and then heat up the foam. Wait 3 days then see how stiff it has become.

The idea is to paint, then popcorn every piece of foam possible, then let it sit for 3 days without touching it.

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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/4/2012 5:13 PM   
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Sometimes you have to see it to believe it, and this is one of those cases.

Take a scrap piece again, paint on a layer of your favorite epoxy (that isnt a 1:1 mix) and then heat up the foam. Wait 3 days then see how stiff it has become.

The idea is to paint, then popcorn every piece of foam possible, then let it sit for 3 days without touching it.



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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/5/2012 4:35 PM   
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Sometimes you have to see it to believe it, and this is one of those cases.

Take a scrap piece again, paint on a layer of your favorite epoxy (that isnt a 1:1 mix) and then heat up the foam. Wait 3 days then see how stiff it has become.

The idea is to paint, then popcorn every piece of foam possible, then let it sit for 3 days without touching it.



Mopar, when you say "that isnt a 1:1 mix" what exactly do you mean?  Do you thin the epoxy out with alcohol (like in fuel proofing) to assist with the painting of it?


BTW the Mega came in so I'll start with the mods to stryker shortly.

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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/5/2012 10:23 PM   
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Sometimes you have to see it to believe it, and this is one of those cases.

Take a scrap piece again, paint on a layer of your favorite epoxy (that isnt a 1:1 mix) and then heat up the foam. Wait 3 days then see how stiff it has become.

The idea is to paint, then popcorn every piece of foam possible, then let it sit for 3 days without touching it.



Mopar, when you say ''that isnt a 1:1 mix'' what exactly do you mean?  Do you thin the epoxy out with alcohol (like in fuel proofing) to assist with the painting of it?


BTW the Mega came in so I'll start with the mods to stryker shortly.

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I dont reccomend thinning epoxy with anything, especially alcahol.

The 1:1 epoxies are actually based with vinyl as their thickener.

A true epoxy is mixed by volume or weight and different ratios.

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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/11/2012 2:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mopar, what size 2 cell are you using to power your rx, will a 400 mah be enough or should I go higher?

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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/12/2012 9:36 AM   
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Also have some 3s740 batts

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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/12/2012 2:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		I take it running just the 2 servos your getting about 4 to 5 minutes out of the 2 cell? I would guess id need to charge it after every flight though to be safe?

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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/13/2012 9:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can get about 15-20 flights with the 3s460, and about double that with the 3s730.

Remember, your BEC is usually set to 6 volts ............ a typical fully charged 3 cell is 12.6 volts.

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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/14/2012 2:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		hey guys, a buddy is going ot the rc show in toledo and may be able to pick up a motor for me there, other than a mega 16/40/2 ec what would be another motor that he could maybe buy there so we dotn have to wait 5 weeks for a motor?

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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/14/2012 6:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is been a while since I have been working on my R/C's. I have a Stryker in pieces that I started to modify. I don't have a motor or speed control. What is a good combination to go around 110-120 mph. I'm not looking for anything exotic. I'm not looking o go 200 mph. Just fast enough to make it fun and get some ooooss and aaaahhhss a he field. Can you guys help me out?

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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/14/2012 8:06 AM   
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please elaborate ...........
need cell count, prop size, battery size, etc.

Mud- that 16-40-2ec is (right now) tha Baddest 28mm motor on the planet
Chocks- Just about any 16-25-x or larger motor can get to your indicated speed, better if you narrow down choices by stating how large and how many cells will you be running ?

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RE: F27 Stryker Part 9: Crazy DARK SIDE - Beginners to ... - 4/16/2012 5:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, sorry for the lack of info. I'm keeping my Styker fairly stock. I have balsa trialing edges and custom layered rudder fins. I do have 6 pieces of carbon fiber inlaid through out the wing. It can handle high G turns. I am running 2200mah 3S batteries. I.m assuming a 6x4 prop with a 60 amp esc. I. not completely set in these numbers. This is where I need your experiences. I would like to keep the 2200mah 3s batteries. The rest is up in the air.

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