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F6F Hellcat kits? - 4/9/2002 6:42:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Are there any good F6F Hellcat kits out there since Heratige closed shop?
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F6F Hellcat kits? - 4/9/2002 8:20:50 AM   
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Status: online 		Don't know but the wing Mfg. may still be available thats a decent one.

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F6F Hellcat kits? - 4/9/2002 9:36:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think Iron Bay who bought the Byron line has a Hellcat. Their site is http://www.ironbaymodelcompany.com/
Ziroli does a nice plan, and there are a number of kit cutters available as well as a fiberglass fuse.
Mike

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Hellcat - 4/9/2002 11:19:34 AM   
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Pictured is a kit built by Ron C., from Southern California. I picked it up and flew it for a while, then traded it off to aquire my P-38.

Ray

ps as well as Ralph Saxton too. Same size and scale as pictured, 80" span.

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F6F Hellcat kits? - 4/9/2002 5:33:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ray,
What engine did you have in the Holman Hellcat?
Also do you remember the weight of the plane?

How did she fly?

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F6F Hellcat kits? - 4/9/2002 10:18:28 PM   
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Status: online 		Holman actually offers two semi kits for the Hellcat. The .60 size Brian Taylor airplane and the 80 inch Don Lien designed bird. The bigger one is foam and fiberglass while the smaller one can be all built up or Bob has an optional glass fuse as well as other accessories. Neither of these is complete kits and you will need a fair amount of experience to tackle either one. Both result in really nice airplanes if care is taken. Good luck, Chad.

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Anybody have the 80" version Hellcat - 4/9/2002 10:46:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Chad,
I`m going with the 80" fiberglass version with the foam wings.
I`m trying to find someone who has one, or had one in their hanger at one time.
I think Ray said he flew one for awhile.
I need to know the all up weight and what size engine would be best for it.

I was thinking of going with a Sachs 2.6
What do you guys think?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,

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F6F Hellcat kits? - 4/10/2002 9:32:07 PM   
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Status: online 		John, I have not had one myself but I remember seeing a couple of them in the not too distant past, one by Diego Lopez and one by Rick Hoskings. Both were detailed to the max and both were at or over the 30 pound mark. If you plan on going all the way I'd say you may want to look into something upwards of 3.5 cubic inches. I don't think the cowling has any problem swallowing up a G-62 size motor. Best of luck, Chad.

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Wing Mfg. - 4/10/2002 9:33:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is a 61 in. span Hal Parenti Wing Mfg. plane. Great flying plane.....

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F6F Hellcat kits? - 4/10/2002 9:53:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Chad,
Thanks for getting back to me.....30lbs. on a 80" wing is getting pretty heavy for me.

Yes, I agree with you when it gets that heavy to step up to a
G-62 or simular size.


Now only if Ray Harris will get back to me, I believe he said he had a 80" version at one time.

Ray!
Where are you??


Thanks again Chad,

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Hellcat - 4/11/2002 5:19:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Regarding the Holman Hellcat.
I flew it with a Moki 1.8. At the time the plane was built, the 2.1 was not available. The all up weight was close to 24lbs on take off, well with in the Moki's power range.

The Hellcat is a great looking plane in the air, I found myself sometime getting caught up in watching and forgetting I needed to fly it, a bad thing with this plane as it has some characteristics, that require you to stay in touch with the plane. As maybe a factor of the weight or just a fine recreation of it full size image, I found that in the corners I really needed to make sure that I co-ordinated the turns. Bank angle, relax, rudder input, hold, back pressure hold. Otherwise you really feel that inside wing losing some lift, and begin to slide and stall.

Landings of the 80incher are pretty straight forward, you get alot of lift from the flaps, and they really put the brakes on. Gotta make sure you dial in some down elevator and run a bit of power on approach.

In looking back, I would love to have flown it with a gas more, nothing less than a Brisson 3.2 or the like. As it took a bit of lead to get the c/g squared away.

Nice available pace with this wingspan and airfoil. Nothing intimidating, but able to get you some good straffing run speed with the right props and powerplants.

Since I love Hitec servos, it had 700 on the elevator, 425 on the couuple of non essentials, 605 and 545 everywhere else. Servo response was never a concern.

1 to 5 stars, I give it a 3.8 over all.
Scale potential it gets a 4.
build ability, you need to have some composite work under your belt before you tackle this one.

sorry took so long to get back
Ray

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Thumbs up to you Ray!!! - 4/11/2002 5:54:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for getting back on the details of the flight performance.

Your description of the Hellcat flight charateristics is very informative, and I know exactly what you mean about losing lift in the turns without using rudder to get it around.

You have answered all my ???? and I know what to expect out of this plane.


Thanks again for your knowledge!

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F6F Hellcat kits? - 4/11/2002 9:24:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Marutaka (formerly marketed as Royal) has one that is available from Hobby Barn.

http://www.hobbybarn.com/airplanes_marutaka_kits.htm

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Best Hellcat - 4/13/2002 7:46:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have to say that the best Hellcat kit out there is the Ziroli. It has a 96" wing. Mine is almost 5 years old and weight is 41LBS. Do not be worried about the weight, this plane will glide on a dead stick for ever. It flies with a Brison 5.8 single and is the fastest warbird at our feild. The aircraft has no bad habits. I have seen Ziroli Hellcats weight from 30lbs to 50! And power from a Zenoa G-62 up to a twin. With 1700 " of wing area you have no worries.

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Ziroli F6F-3 - 4/13/2002 7:49:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		A couple more shots of the Hellcat. Mike

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