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New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/15/2010 7:04 PM   
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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/15/2010 7:51 PM   
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The Topmodel boss (seen here on the screenshot) is a retired French air Force Mirage F1 pilot ! He is a great lover of "his" plane, and he have put all this in the design of this Mirage F1.

I've seen this model (static only) during the september open days at Topmodel, and sure, it is impressive ! The retracting gear is a piece of art !

Hope to see it fly soon !

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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/15/2010 8:36 PM   
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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/15/2010 9:43 PM   
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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/15/2010 11:25 PM   
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it's all included some bad translation but too much to write by my self. Fuselage (2-part removable and connected by screws at the rear of the cab) fiberglass epoxy every couple of reinforcements set (front bracket, radio tray, fuselage frames, built reactor, nozzle holder ). Aluminum fittings for attaching wings and drift up, triangulations performed at the factory. Hatch reactor complete with mounting bolts in place. Air streams raised. System of discrete canopy closure achieved. Spoilers fiberglass with molded cylinders in place. retract landing gear mounted and connected air and landing gear doors molded fiberglass with jacks in place. Fuselage comes completely finished with gelcoat raised decoration, is to install radio and reactor only. Windshield fixed transparent PVC fiber-reinforced ended up. Transparent PVC canopy mounted tub fiberglass epoxy gelcoat. Interior cockpit and instrument panels fiberglass epoxy gel coats.

Wings fiberglass epoxy (carbon reinforced) gelcoatées, decorated, finished. Key questions wing (carbon rods). Ailerons and flaps over, hinged stick. Many aerodynamic fairings fiberglass.

VTP fiberglass epoxy molded gelcoat and decorated. Fixation system key carbon tube fitting for aluminum as the wing. Direction louver finished hinges paste. Hatch to the steering servo completed. Horizontal tail fiberglass epoxy molded gelcoat and decorated. System prfondeur aluminum hinge with ball bearings. Tail delivered fully finished gelcoat raised decoration, is to install radio only.
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Accessories: control horns, torsion bars, control linkages with clevises, screws, fiberglass tanks with all fittings, etc. ...

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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/16/2010 12:26 AM   
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My family lives close to Torrejon, so every now and then you can still see an F1 over there. Dassualt sure could produce some really beautiful lines.

Se you guys in Paris soon.

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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/16/2010 1:09 PM   
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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/16/2010 1:38 PM   
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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/16/2010 6:14 PM   
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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/16/2010 6:31 PM   
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How do you say freakin awesome in Francais?



Super geniale!

Topmodel is usually distributing high quality kits which are made in Eastern Europe. I'm pretty sure they can deliver quality.

I applaud them for trying but I want to see the flight testing first. I hope that Topmodel won't make the same mistake that many Chineese manufacturers do. I'm surprised the model is for sale even before it was test flown.  

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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/16/2010 7:40 PM   
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And size... and specificaly designed retracting gear fitted in the plane...


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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/16/2010 8:00 PM   
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I'm surprised the model is for sale even before it was test flown.  

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Where did you see that ?
Actually the first prototype was test flown in spring 2009.
The second prototype was made in August 2009.
So they've taken a good year to offer a commercial kit.

Here are early pictures of the second prototype:

http://www.topmodel.fr/actualites-478

Note the amazing gear retaining most of the original cinematics.

The only thing that I'm not happy with is the wing profile that is too thick and not curved like the original F1.
It could be that this was corrected on the production plane but the pictures are not really helping on that matter.

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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/16/2010 8:02 PM   
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The only thing that I'm not happy with is the wing profile that is too thick and not curved like the original F1.
It could be that this was corrected on the production plane but the pictures are not really helping on that matter.


How so, could you mark up a pic and show us what you mean?

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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/16/2010 8:06 PM   
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After reviewing the pictures of the latest plane, it could be that they have changed the early profile for a more scale one. Only a proper picture taken from the front could tell.

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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/16/2010 8:12 PM   
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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/16/2010 9:15 PM   
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You are correct. I don't know if the plane has been flown. But where are the flying pics? Where is the video? Also the plane in the pics looks very new, not flight tested.

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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/16/2010 11:47 PM   
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the plane in the pics looks very new, not flight tested.

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LOL brilliant!!! Do your planes look very secondhand after the maiden then?

I really like it, a much nicer variant than what others produce

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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/17/2010 12:16 AM   
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This is not the same plane Feibao does.....

Who and where is this plane being manufactured?

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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/17/2010 12:36 AM   
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the plane in the pics looks very new, not flight tested.

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LOL brilliant!!! Do your planes look very secondhand after the maiden then?

I really like it, a much nicer variant than what others produce


I'm glad you are amused. My planes have some trace of oil, mud, etc... in them. Just like yours assuming you have a few jets that you fly every weekend.
To me, it is pretty obvious that the pictures are from a brand new model that has never seen a flight. Have you looked at the pics carefully? The plane doesn't have an engine or a pipe.

I agree this looks very good and I hope it is high quality because I would really like to get one. But I have seen people first hand getting screwed with untested products and I'm very reluctant to take that risk. 

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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/17/2010 1:53 AM   
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This full production Mirage F1 was brand new when I've seen it on 25 september 2010. This model is now on the web site but not in stock, only available "on order". It will be surely in flying status sooner.

As it was presented at the public event "open day" of Topmodel, this have to be now on the web site as everybody want to have the specs.

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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/17/2010 1:55 AM   
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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/17/2010 4:15 AM   
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Finally a new french jet model on the market !


Strykaas, does it come with a white flag and a gun that doesn't fire or are those options not available for foreign sales?

Just wondering

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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/17/2010 5:07 AM   
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the plane in the pics looks very new, not flight tested.

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LOL brilliant!!! Do your planes look very secondhand after the maiden then?

I really like it, a much nicer variant than what others produce


I'm glad you are amused. My planes have some trace of oil, mud, etc... in them. Just like yours assuming you have a few jets that you fly every weekend.
To me, it is pretty obvious that the pictures are from a brand new model that has never seen a flight. Have you looked at the pics carefully? The plane doesn't have an engine or a pipe.

I agree this looks very good and I hope it is high quality because I would really like to get one. But I have seen people first hand getting screwed with untested products and I'm very reluctant to take that risk. 

Arnaud






Who says that the one in the picture is the one they test flew?

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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/17/2010 11:33 AM   
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RE: New Large Mirage F-1 from Topmodel - 10/17/2010 11:36 AM   
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I think this one is made by Spark for Top model (Jet legend). May be ingeneering by Top model, but made in China by Spark for Top Model (I think...)
Why?
If you look the landing gear design, the gear door hinges, the gear door cylinder, the carbone renforcement, the tyres.... a lot off small details indicate that it's a spark (jet legend) production.
It's typically the design of spark/jet legend.
It's a good news, because they have a big experience in jet model production...
For the quality, it seems like some jet legend ARF (it's OK), so the price seems to me a little expensive.=> but, you know, the landing gear is really complicated, it's a big plane and probably exclusivity for Top model (little production) so more production cost.

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