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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/21/2012 6:16 PM   
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I say Navy Blue,



I am no photo shop expert but you can get an idea..
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NIce! i like the blue a lot more than the yellow black and grey.

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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/21/2012 8:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Henry seems to have some input into (does he speak chinese?!) into modifications to the Tornado.

Perhaps it's time to modify it to fix one of it's biggest drawbacks, transport.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10919625/tm.htm

This guy wants a removable nose.

IMO the best modification would be removable outer wing panels so it could be transported
resting on the gear with the booms & tail attached & ready to fly by just sliding in the wing
panels & plugging in the aileron servos. - John.

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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/21/2012 8:32 PM   
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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/21/2012 8:51 PM   
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Henry seems to have some input into (does he speak chinese?!) into modifications to the Tornado.

Perhaps it's time to modify it to fix one of it's biggest drawbacks, transport.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10919625/tm.htm

This guy wants a removable nose.

IMO the best modification would be removable outer wing panels so it could be transported
resting on the gear with the booms & tail attached & ready to fly by just sliding in the wing
panels & plugging in the aileron servos. - John.

I agree!! This is the only drawback of the Tornado.

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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/21/2012 9:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		 I totally agree with you guys but doing that would require us making totally new molds for everything.  And since we make 15 planes at a time the that would be a huge cost to make up a new set. 

The New Tornado XL ( King Cat size ) will be like this with removable outer wing panels. I apologize we can't do this at this time but once we have to make new models I will make it happen. 



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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/21/2012 10:40 PM   
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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/21/2012 11:23 PM   
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IMO the best modification would be removable outer wing panels so it could be transported
resting on the gear with the booms & tail attached & ready to fly by just sliding in the wing
panels & plugging in the aileron servos. - John.

Absolutely 100% agree. The lack of a way to remove the wing panels like my Baby Boomer, other than coming up with a home-made arrangement, is what has kept me from getting a Tornado. I'd get one in a second if it was made to be easily broken down for transportation.

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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/22/2012 12:30 AM   
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IMO the best modification would be removable outer wing panels so it could be transported
resting on the gear with the booms & tail attached & ready to fly by just sliding in the wing
panels & plugging in the aileron servos. - John.

Absolutely 100% agree. The lack of a way to remove the wing panels like my Baby Boomer, other than coming up with a home-made arrangement, is what has kept me from getting a Tornado. I'd get one in a second if it was made to be easily broken down for transportation.


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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/23/2012 1:00 AM   
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Red & white! Definitely not that light blue that blends into blue sky.. My 2cents, even though I like the yellow better than both.

Exactly. Some colors look great on the ground but not in the air. Red/white for me.


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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/23/2012 8:26 AM   
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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/23/2012 8:30 AM   
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IMO the best modification would be removable outer wing panels so it could be transported
resting on the gear with the booms & tail attached & ready to fly by just sliding in the wing
panels & plugging in the aileron servos. - John.

Absolutely 100% agree. The lack of a way to remove the wing panels like my Baby Boomer, other than coming up with a home-made arrangement, is what has kept me from getting a Tornado. I'd get one in a second if it was made to be easily broken down for transportation.


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A major change to the existing configeration of the Tornado, it will just not happen and keep within the price range it is in at the moment, if this is what you need or want there are plenty of alternatives out there to accomodate you, but this is not one.

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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/23/2012 2:19 PM   
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Its the underside of the airframe that you see mostly in the air and yellow is the best contrast against most sky scapes.

Mike

No one color will stand out under all conditions. I had a plane I flew in pattern years ago that started out with flourescent yellow on the wing, and it completely disappeared against a bright overcast sky. I had to add large dark-blue bands at the tips, then it would show up well against any kind of sky. Large patches of contrasting colors (dark and light) are the best. The light blue and white scheme is one I would never consider for that reason, unless I replaced the light blue with a dark navy-blue. JMHO.

For me, both the top and bottom are important. Would be too boring for me if all I saw during most of the flight was the bottom.

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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/23/2012 2:24 PM   
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...........No one color will stand out under all conditions.



it's different for everyone's eyes but for mine, pink stands out in most every condition and although i've owned a few pink prop planes i don't have any plans for a Barbi jet.

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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/23/2012 3:25 PM   
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IMO the best modification would be removable outer wing panels so it could be transported
resting on the gear with the booms & tail attached & ready to fly by just sliding in the wing
panels & plugging in the aileron servos. - John.

Absolutely 100% agree. The lack of a way to remove the wing panels like my Baby Boomer, other than coming up with a home-made arrangement, is what has kept me from getting a Tornado. I'd get one in a second if it was made to be easily broken down for transportation.


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A major change to the existing configeration of the Tornado, it will just not happen and keep within the price range it is in at the moment, if this is what you need or want there are plenty of alternatives out there to accomodate you, but this is not one.

Mike


I dont consider removable wings panels as a major change if it's made part of the orignal wing design. Of course it would warrant a small
price increase that would not IMO be a problem for most modelers that would purchase this model. 

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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/23/2012 4:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with the removable tips (bobcat style) 100%, but at $469, & an already proven design, it's probably better to leave it as is for now. To do & test fly a mod like that would probably mean not seeing our V3's for some time! Then we'd all have to pray the factory got ours right
What's the color verdict Henry? I want mine in "poisonous" yellow, will settle for white/red, but DO NOT want blue!

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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/23/2012 6:04 PM   
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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/23/2012 6:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		 Well the red won I got 48 people want to keep red and only 9 for the blue. As for the removable wings like I said in a previous post it would take a while as well as cost a lot to re design the airplane. If anybody has any more questions about this topic please you can call me or email me directly so I can clarify and issues. Blubus and Bald eagle are 100% right a total redesign is needed and test flying until the new structure is proven.


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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/23/2012 11:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Can you clarify something? Is this the red and white version you are talking about or the red and grey? It's the red and grey I simply do not want.

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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/24/2012 12:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		 I'm not sure what the big complication is on the color scheme it is the red navy trainer scheme that I had before. It's on my website and several pictures are on here. We are also making the yellow scheme that I posted on the last page. We can also do any custom scheme you would like. When this option is chosen we will glass the wings and paint the whole aircraft. We have 3 builders that will do this for $1000 


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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/24/2012 2:15 AM   
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 I'm not sure what the big complication is on the color scheme it is the red navy trainer scheme that I had before. It's on my website and several pictures are on here. We are also making the yellow scheme that I posted on the last page. We can also do any custom scheme you would like. When this option is chosen we will glass the wings and paint the whole aircraft. We have 3 builders that will do this for $1000 

Henry i think Pepper was looking for clarification on whether it is the white with red navy trainer or grey with red navy trainer scheme that are both pictured on your site? Perhaps when you say red navy trainer you mean both the white and grey versions?

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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/24/2012 2:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		A picture is worth a thousand words please look below.  FYI we never made a red and gray.  The only colors we have made are Orange and gray and red and white navy trainer schemes.

Below are the two Schemes we are making for the Tornado V3.  Also we have about 50 airplanes left it seems like they will be sold out before they get here.  I will try to make more but I cannot delay this order any more than it is already.  I have made an extra 75 but they are almost all spoken for.  The next Tornado order is scheduled for mid-summer

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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/24/2012 3:48 AM   
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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/24/2012 4:41 AM   
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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/24/2012 9:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		 It requires two servos the elevator is to thin for a reliable single servo. We tried going with a single servo that would fit flush and the only servo that worked was the JR 378 thin wing servo and on one high speed pass I got flutter that ripped one of the hinges loose. You need at least 100 oz on the elevator 


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RE: The new Tornado sport jet - 1/24/2012 10:07 AM   
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